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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

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Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

Runway8 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.


I think Gasol might get his number retired. Back to Back chips are no joke.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:00 am    Post subject:

IIRC, Lakers have retired uniform #’s of only HOF honorees, not sure if VD12 will be up in the rafters though.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:12 am    Post subject:

Vlade never won a ring as a Laker (or in his entire career). He played in the 91 Finals with Magic but that team lost. Based on that his career as a Laker isn’t going to stand out. Pretty good player though. But he didn’t even stand out next to players like Van Exel and Eddie Jones.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

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Runway8 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.


I think Gasol might get his number retired. Back to Back chips are no joke.


Who makes these decisions? The Lakers used to seem bigger than what they are when it was ran by Dr. Buss. I imagined a committee of basketball minds working together in Buss, West, Riles, Kupchak, Bertka, etc. Now it's burned in my head, it's one lady making decisions as she feels fit. So yeah, Gasol could get in one day, depending on how she's feeling that day.

Does the league make recommendations when they see someone's # should be retired? I don't trust Jeannie to understands the difference in talent between Pau and Vlade.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

Runway8 wrote:
LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.


I think Gasol might get his number retired. Back to Back chips are no joke.


Who makes these decisions? The Lakers used to seem bigger than what they are when it was ran by Dr. Buss. I imagined a committee of basketball minds working together in Buss, West, Riles, Kupchak, Bertka, etc. Now it's burned in my head, it's one lady making decisions as she feels fit. So yeah, Gasol could get in one day, depending on how she's feeling that day.

Does the league make recommendations when they see someone's # should be retired? I don't trust Jeannie to understands the difference in talent between Pau and Vlade.


Yeah, I’m not sure how it works
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

Runway8 wrote:
LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.


I think Gasol might get his number retired. Back to Back chips are no joke.


Who makes these decisions? The Lakers used to seem bigger than what they are when it was ran by Dr. Buss. I imagined a committee of basketball minds working together in Buss, West, Riles, Kupchak, Bertka, etc. Now it's burned in my head, it's one lady making decisions as she feels fit. So yeah, Gasol could get in one day, depending on how she's feeling that day.

Does the league make recommendations when they see someone's # should be retired? I don't trust Jeannie to understands the difference in talent between Pau and Vlade.


This has nothing to do with the league. Any team can retire any number they want. Traditionally, the Lakers have retired only guys who made a significant contribution to the team and made the Hall of Fame. I doubt there's ever been any kind of committee on this. All the numbers we were tired and pretty much been no-brainers.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

activeverb wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Lakerfan 4 Life wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBfr5r9jVE

Congrats, Vlade!


I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


He's getting in for his OVERALL contributions. The HOF lets everybody in it seems anyways. I don't even think there are discussions of retiring his Laker jersey. Lakers don't do that. We ain't the Celtics, if we were, Byron Scott, AC Green, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Robert Horry... they'd all be retired.


I think Gasol might get his number retired. Back to Back chips are no joke.


Who makes these decisions? The Lakers used to seem bigger than what they are when it was ran by Dr. Buss. I imagined a committee of basketball minds working together in Buss, West, Riles, Kupchak, Bertka, etc. Now it's burned in my head, it's one lady making decisions as she feels fit. So yeah, Gasol could get in one day, depending on how she's feeling that day.

Does the league make recommendations when they see someone's # should be retired? I don't trust Jeannie to understands the difference in talent between Pau and Vlade.


This has nothing to do with the league. Any team can retire any number they want. Traditionally, the Lakers have retired only guys who made a significant contribution to the team and made the Hall of Fame. I doubt there's ever been any kind of committee on this. All the numbers we were tired and pretty much been no-brainers.


what if LeBron win 1 but only 4 yrs as PnG (hope he does)? jersey in rafter?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

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what if LeBron win 1 but only 4 yrs as PnG (hope he does)? jersey in rafter?


Wilt played 5 years for the Lakers and only got one ring here and had his jersey retired. There is precedent for this. So yeah, I fully expect Lebron will get his jersey retired for one championship.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:45 am    Post subject:

Surprised to see Vlade in the HOF, but he's only in because of his international contributions. There's no way Jeannie will retire his jersey. He never brought a championship here as a Laker. Pau's jersey retirement should be a lock imo.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:28 am    Post subject:

Lakers retire jersey for HOFers AND champions.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:29 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
Lakers retire jersey for HOFers AND champions.


Do you think Pau will be inducted? I hope so
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:59 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
Lakers retire jersey for HOFers AND champions.

No jersey retirements for Lakers All-Stars?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Vlade Divac Hall Of Fame Speech

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I know Vlade was a good international player, but I can't reconcile him as a Hall of Famer based on his 16 years as a good but nothing special NBA player. If the Lakers retire his jersey, I will be surprised.


I gotta agree and am very surprised he is considered a HOF'r.

He had is moments, but was average or slightly above average at best, the HOF should be reserved for players in the Top 5 or 10% while Vlade was quite a bit lower.

The best thing Vlade ever did was get traded for Kobe!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:44 am    Post subject:

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Vlade never won a ring as a Laker (or in his entire career). He played in the 91 Finals with Magic but that team lost. Based on that his career as a Laker isn’t going to stand out. Pretty good player though. But he didn’t even stand out next to players like Van Exel and Eddie Jones.


Gotta differ, SteveO. The Lake Show years were his best statistically. That was the best he ever got, imo. Although, he became a much better passer by the time he was in Sac. He was a good passer with us, but he was higher level later on. A lot fewer "Vlade, you dum dum!" (Chick phrase) plays.
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Vlade never won a ring as a Laker (or in his entire career). He played in the 91 Finals with Magic but that team lost. Based on that his career as a Laker isn’t going to stand out. Pretty good player though. But he didn’t even stand out next to players like Van Exel and Eddie Jones.


Gotta differ, SteveO. The Lake Show years were his best statistically. That was the best he ever got, imo. Although, he became a much better passer by the time he was in Sac. He was a good passer with us, but he was higher level later on. A lot fewer "Vlade, you dum dum!" (Chick phrase) plays.


The team didn’t do (bleep) with him after 91. 92 was a first round exit, 93 was a losing record followed by a first round exit, 94 was a horrible season with no playoffs and almost 50 losses, 95 was a second round exit, 96 was a first round exit. Vlade wasn’t even an all-star in those years and didn’t even contribute as much as Cedric Ceballos in 95; Ceballos was considered the leader of the team.

You think Vlade stands out as a Laker? I don’t remember anyone saying they missed him after the team picked up Shaq.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject:

How the hell did Divac make the Hall of Fame? He was a one-time all-star and a low-tier one even during that one year. Unbelievable.
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The NBA needs its own Hall of Fame.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
Lakers retire jersey for HOFers AND champions.


Not true in Baylor's case.

In a way I'm glad this happened in that it might finally open the door for Lakers like Cooper and Horry.
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greenfrog wrote:
danzag wrote:
Lakers retire jersey for HOFers AND champions.


Not true in Baylor's case.

In a way I'm glad this happened in that it might finally open the door for Lakers like Cooper and Horry.


The Lakers consider him a champion, since he played 9 games that season.
They sent him a championship ring.

I'm OK with that.
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