Anthony matches up very favorably with just about every great in NBA history.
Where he is consistently better than every HOF player you might rank him against is FG%, FT% and BPG.
He compares favorably in PPG and RPG, and lags just a little against some of the elites in APG and SPG.
And greatly in leadership
AD led his team past a first round upset at 24. What did KG lead his team to at 24?
What did AD lead his team to at 26? AD had a great series but it took great play by Holiday and Mirotic to win one series. Mirotic was great as a stretch 5 toward the end of that season but couldn’t replicate it afterward.
What did Garnett lead his team to at 26? He didn't have success until he was surrounded by two other hall of famers and Rondo.
Wait, an all time great player needed help to win a ring? Wow!
Maybe you're misunderstanding the point. The question isn't whether Garnett is an all time great. It is whether he is better than AD at the same age.
I was supporting your argument! It was VLF who was um, VLFing there. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Anthony matches up very favorably with just about every great in NBA history.
Where he is consistently better than every HOF player you might rank him against is FG%, FT% and BPG.
He compares favorably in PPG and RPG, and lags just a little against some of the elites in APG and SPG.
And greatly in leadership
AD led his team past a first round upset at 24. What did KG lead his team to at 24?
What did AD lead his team to at 26? AD had a great series but it took great play by Holiday and Mirotic to win one series. Mirotic was great as a stretch 5 toward the end of that season but couldn’t replicate it afterward.
What did Garnett lead his team to at 26? He didn't have success until he was surrounded by two other hall of famers and Rondo.
Wait, an all time great player needed help to win a ring? Wow!
Maybe you're misunderstanding the point. The question isn't whether Garnett is an all time great. It is whether he is better than AD at the same age.
I was supporting your argument! It was VLF who was um, VLFing there.
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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:29 pm Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I'd argue that if Kobe/Duncan were a pair, they'd have more rings than Shaq/Kobe.
My dude, you need to rewatch prime three-peat Shaq, he was the best player in the league post MJ-pre Kobe
I was there for that. But I'm talking longevity.
Shaq was a greater force than TD in his prime. But TD had a longer trajectory. That's my point.
100% agree. They would also have more harmony since TD wouldn't have issues with Kobe wanting to be the man. TD would just be like whatevers and proceed to defend the paint, block shots, etc. Whereas Shaq was like feed the dog, and he'll guard the yard. I said earlier this year, watching the Greek Freak reminded me of Shaq in many aspects. He can fill up the box score with his physical gifts, but in the post season when the defense tightens up, and you no longer can bull doze your way in, you stop manufacturing points. People knew the Lakers went to Kobe more than Shaq in the crunch, but if Duncan was his partner, a player who is equally dependable in the crunch, it would have been tough for the defense to figure out Kobe/Duncan combo.
KG=one of the biggest fake tough guys ever, but still immensely talented. If I had to choose who I want on my team and who I had to want to root for, I am going with AD BARELY. _________________ Wow. Luke has gone full (bleep) on us. - DB
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:19 am Post subject:
brock wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
brock wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
brock wrote:
Anthony matches up very favorably with just about every great in NBA history.
Where he is consistently better than every HOF player you might rank him against is FG%, FT% and BPG.
He compares favorably in PPG and RPG, and lags just a little against some of the elites in APG and SPG.
And greatly in leadership
AD led his team past a first round upset at 24. What did KG lead his team to at 24?
What did AD lead his team to at 26? AD had a great series but it took great play by Holiday and Mirotic to win one series. Mirotic was great as a stretch 5 toward the end of that season but couldn’t replicate it afterward.
What did Garnett lead his team to at 26? He didn't have success until he was surrounded by two other hall of famers and Rondo.
He was routinely leading his team to the playoffs. He wasn’t quitting during the season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq. _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend!
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
No, he wasn’t
yes, he was. _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend!
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:09 am Post subject:
lakersfever714 wrote:
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
Do you think KG was more important on that finals team than Pierce, who won Finals MVP? I think KG was actually a little past his prime by the time he got to the Celtics.
Also, Rivers has Kawhi Leonard and Paul George-- the former is basically equivalent to KG in terms of impact. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:58 am Post subject:
lakersfever714 wrote:
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
Prime KG was really good, but let's not get carried away here. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:26 pm Post subject:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
Prime KG was really good, but let's not get carried away here.
I'm pretty sure not a single other human being believes that including KG himself
Anthony matches up very favorably with just about every great in NBA history.
Where he is consistently better than every HOF player you might rank him against is FG%, FT% and BPG.
He compares favorably in PPG and RPG, and lags just a little against some of the elites in APG and SPG.
And greatly in leadership
AD led his team past a first round upset at 24. What did KG lead his team to at 24?
What did AD lead his team to at 26? AD had a great series but it took great play by Holiday and Mirotic to win one series. Mirotic was great as a stretch 5 toward the end of that season but couldn’t replicate it afterward.
What did Garnett lead his team to at 26? He didn't have success until he was surrounded by two other hall of famers and Rondo.
He was routinely leading his team to the playoffs. He wasn’t quitting during the season.
Routinely? He had 5 total wins in the playoffs until he was 26. 5. Total. Playoff. Wins.
Ironically, that's exactly the same number of wins AD had before 26, so...not sure whose point I'm making here.
I’d take AD over garnet every single time. In fact, he’s probably going to go down as the greatest power forward in NBA history if he stays with the lakers in his prime. He’s just way too talented. You can easily find guys in nba history who are better than him at a skillset or two, but nobody else does as many things as well as he does at such a high level. Hell, just looking at him from a physical profile he’s probably the ideal clay to work with. That title used to go to garnet but imo davis has him trumped. I wish we had both of their measurements side by side including athletic testing. _________________ “like I never left”
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:36 am Post subject:
PICKnPOP wrote:
I’d take AD over garnet every single time. In fact, he’s probably going to go down as the greatest power forward in NBA history if he stays with the lakers in his prime. He’s just way too talented. You can easily find guys in nba history who are better than him at a skillset or two, but nobody else does as many things as well as he does at such a high level. Hell, just looking at him from a physical profile he’s probably the ideal clay to work with. That title used to go to garnet but imo davis has him trumped. I wish we had both of their measurements side by side including athletic testing.
Is AD better than Duncan, Malone, Barkley, and Dirk? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
No, he wasn’t
yes, he was.
Nope. Wasn’t even close to Duncan either.
And BTW, AD will end up having a much better career than KG.
KG won that ring for Doc Rivers and made him look like a HOF coach. Now without KG, we'll see how normal Doc Rivers really is. Prime KG is every bit as scary as prime Shaq.
No, he wasn’t
yes, he was.
Nope. Wasn’t even close to Duncan either.
And BTW, AD will end up having a much better career than KG.
KG>>duncan
Shaq>>>duncan
also, KG is better than Shaq at a lot of things. of the three id pick duncan last, easily.
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