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yinoma2001
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| governator wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | This only comes to use when it's buyout season.
The vet's minimum becomes prorate by Feb/March 2020 and would be less than the 1.75m DPE (which does not prorate). By Feb/March, you have played more than 60% of the season so the vet's minimum will be more like slightly over 1m while the DPE is 1.75m. |
not realistic but Galinari buy out if OKC tanking (he need to give up lotta dough tho) |
Right. Point being, it's an exception, not a roster spot. The value is that the DPE is not prorated so it gives us some spending power at the buyout season. If someone is presented with a prorated 1.1m vet's min. or 1.75m DPE, all things being equal, why not take an extra half million?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Lakers have been granted $1.75M exception |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Annihilator wrote: | | , veteran players on one year contracts only count $1,701,593 against the CAP even though their salaries are much higher. |
Not quite. The full salary would count against the cap; the NBA simply pays for half the salary. |
Would we still be allowed to sign a veteran to a one year contract whose pay is higher than our 1.75 exception.. the 2 point something mil |
In order to do that:
1. need a roster spot (cut someone).
2. you can't use the 1.75 DPE to sign someone for 2m.
3. if you have a roster spot, you can sign for vet's min. (assuming that player qualifies for it). That would be greater than a 1.75m DPE.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Lakers have been granted $1.75M exception |
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| unleasHell wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | | Melo? |
Wade? |
Wilt? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| We'll use it to add a 3 after buyout season. |
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ringfinger
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The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Lakers have been granted $1.75M exception |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Annihilator wrote: | | , veteran players on one year contracts only count $1,701,593 against the CAP even though their salaries are much higher. |
Not quite. The full salary would count against the cap; the NBA simply pays for half the salary. |
Would we still be allowed to sign a veteran to a one year contract whose pay is higher than our 1.75 exception.. the 2 point something mil |
25. What are salary cap exceptions?
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MINIMUM PLAYER SALARY EXCEPTION -- Teams can offer players minimum salary contracts even if they are over the cap. Contracts can be up to two years in length. In a two-year contract, the salary in the second year is specified in the minimum salary scale in effect when the contract was signed (see question number 22). The contract may not contain a bonus of any kind. This exception can also be used to acquire minimum salary players via trade. There is no limit to the number of players that can be signed or acquired using this exception.
This exception begins to reduce in value after the first day of the season. For example, if there are 177 days in the season, then this exception reduces in value by 1/177 of its initial value each day. So if a team signs a minimum salary player 90 days into the season, it can pay the player only 87/177 of the minimum salary.
See question number 88 for more information on how minimum salary players are handled in trade.
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Hector the Pup
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| ringfinger wrote: | The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
I'll take a stab in the dark and say the guy who hasn't played a minute for the team and can't. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
Cousins is an easy answer
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| Is Lin still available? |
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We could use another wing defender..
Iman Shumpert
Thabo
Corey Brewer |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Is Lin still available? |
Lin recently signed with a pro team in Beijing, IIRC. |
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Hector the Pup
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | We could use another wing defender..
Iman Shumpert
Thabo
Corey Brewer |
It's 2019. Just thought you should get a heads up on that. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
Cousins is an easy answer |
I still think cutting DMC while he's injured would be free-agent suicide. The FO is apparently trying to rebuild its FA cred by selling the Lakers as a team that takes care of its players. Cutting DMC after he injures his knee while doing a non-team workout in the off-season, and after trading 3 of its prior 1st round draft picks that it previously pitched as the future of the franchise, isn't exactly a good look. |
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If cut could he be resigned for playoffs? If ready and rehabbed.
Still gets his salary if cut? |
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yinoma2001
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| MIMLaker wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
Cousins is an easy answer |
I still think cutting DMC while he's injured would be free-agent suicide. The FO is apparently trying to rebuild its FA cred by selling the Lakers as a team that takes care of its players. Cutting DMC after he injures his knee while doing a non-team workout in the off-season, and after trading 3 of its prior 1st round draft picks that it previously pitched as the future of the franchise, isn't exactly a good look. |
Eh. One can argue we did him a solid by giving him more than a minimum deal. WOJ initially reported it as the minimum and he was getting no offers.
He's had 2 season ending injuries, and a quad injury. I think it's understandable if in a possible championship year, we may need every roster spot available.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Is Lin still available? |
We do NOT need yet another guard; and Lin is gone anyway...
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | The question to ask isnt who should we sign?
The question to ask is who should we cut in order to sign who? |
I'll take a stab in the dark and say the guy who hasn't played a minute for the team and can't. |
Well i don’t disagree but why havent they?
We gain nothing by having him. Not like he’s a brain to pick. Haha |
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| MIMLaker wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Is Lin still available? |
Lin recently signed with a pro team in Beijing, IIRC. |
Plus we already have 8 guards
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers have been granted $1.75M exception |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Annihilator wrote: | | , veteran players on one year contracts only count $1,701,593 against the CAP even though their salaries are much higher. |
Not quite. The full salary would count against the cap; the NBA simply pays for half the salary. |
Would we still be allowed to sign a veteran to a one year contract whose pay is higher than our 1.75 exception.. the 2 point something mil |
You can always sign a player to a contract for the veteran's minimum, which is determined by their years of service. |
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| MIMLaker wrote: |
I still think cutting DMC while he's injured would be free-agent suicide. |
I doubt waiving him would have any impact on future free agents.
Everyone would realize that we cut him simply because he was unlikely to play and we needed a roster spot. I doubt any team would claim him and we could still let him use our facilities. |
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By the trade deadline (when teams usually will start buying out vets), the prorated vet's minimum will be under 1m.
The Boogie DPE will continue to remain at 1.75m. While it seems small, we can use every $ that we can offer a buyout vet. That's nearly double the prorated vet's minimum.
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I think we are trading the DPE and a couple future 2nds for Bruno Cabloco, then waiving boogie or Horton Tucker (then signing him to a 2way contract.
Bench will look like this
Dwight
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Cabloco/Dudley
KCP/Daniels
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Kobe ....  |
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| AD23 wrote: | | Kobe .... |
Still hoping Iguodala gets bought out and we can get him.
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I wonder, does the Disabled Player Exception even remain with the team if they release Cousins? I know it expires if they trade him.
If Cousins needs to remain on the roster to keep the exception then that means the Lakers would need to cut a player, likely either Daniels or Dudley, to make use of it. |
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