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cencio_999
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| manlisten wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | BadGuy wrote: | | Randle is trash. We really talking about Randle here? He's a bum like Lonzo, and his efficiency has plumetted since he received that ridiculous contract from the Knicks. |
Yeah, I'm wondering why he's doing so poorly this year compared to last year. |
He's being utilized as a number 1 option on a team with no spacing and no playmaking. It's a structure which emphasizes all his flaws and sets him up to fail |
He's not the no. 1 option in NY.
Actually he's taking less shots than last year, despite playing more minutes. |
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LaLaLakeShow
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| oaktown_dimond wrote: | I agree with others. When and if we play the clips in the playoffs (who are we kidding?, we will)... We want them hopefully in the conference finals. Get kawhi all banged up and limping around against the likes of the nuggets, rockets Mavs, etc. That's why I think there's value in pushing for a top seed. at the same time, don't risk injury doing it.
And Dwight's gonna have to pull out some performances from the past and really take it to them. |
Roll players traditionally play much better at home.
The number 1 seed is valuable regardless
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | 55 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | I noticed a few posters who used to post everyday with wall of texts about the Lakers, now have virtually disappeared. They can't stand to see the Lakers are 22-3. Bet if we were 3-22 they would be all up in here telling us how right they are and how much the Lakers suck. |
If you miss the walls of text, you’ll find them in the General Basketball Discussion thread, still proclaiming Randle to be amazing.
I miss the “AD will not sign with us this summer and we’ll be doomed”. |
Or you have the posters who make stuff up and then complain about what they made up. |
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drae
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow is Harrell dirty |
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drae
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Kawhi has 8 turnovers
That's why Clipper fans want a playmaker |
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drae
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Kawhi has made 19FTs though so good to see the refs still want the Clippers to win
37FTs for the Clippers. What a joke |
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AllorNothing
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | Kawhi has made 19FTs though so good to see the refs still want the Clippers to win
37FTs for the Clippers. What a joke |
The joke is Lebron is not even in the top 20 in free throw attempts this year considering he's always getting hacked on drives . |
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drae
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | drae wrote: | Kawhi has made 19FTs though so good to see the refs still want the Clippers to win
37FTs for the Clippers. What a joke |
The joke is Lebron is not even in the top 20 in free throw attempts this year considering he's always getting hacked on drives . |
Yeah. It's annoying how shooters get all the FTs these days.
Anyway, for the people who think the Clippers have playmakers already - PG had 7 assists and 6 TOs, Kawhi had 2 assists and 8 TOs. |
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All_Star_Laker
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What percent of “Clipper Fans” like the Clippers more than the Lakers?
I hear Seattle needs a team
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| cencio_999 wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | BadGuy wrote: | | Randle is trash. We really talking about Randle here? He's a bum like Lonzo, and his efficiency has plumetted since he received that ridiculous contract from the Knicks. |
Yeah, I'm wondering why he's doing so poorly this year compared to last year. |
He's being utilized as a number 1 option on a team with no spacing and no playmaking. It's a structure which emphasizes all his flaws and sets him up to fail |
He's not the no. 1 option in NY.
Actually he's taking less shots than last year, despite playing more minutes. |
He has the highest usage and takes the most shots on the team.
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Joe Pesci
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| Yue_Fei wrote: | While Randle was playing with us, I thought he was an above average defender. And I thought Lonzo and Ingram were elite.
After looking at guys like AD, Avery, Green and even Dudley on a near daily basis, and taking closer looks at guys like Kawhi, Siakim, etc., our (former) youth really had a long, long way to go.
I wish the best for them, but I also understand their limitations given the wider context of the NBA. I think when you have a very young team, you tend to dote on them more and it lends itself to more of a fishbowl experience. |
There is a gap between Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso, but it isn't a very big gap at all.
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Joe Pesci
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| pjiddy wrote: | | BadGuy wrote: | | Randle is trash. We really talking about Randle here? He's a bum like Lonzo, and his efficiency has plumetted since he received that ridiculous contract from the Knicks. |
It's about letting an asset to for nothing. Don't think we could use an asset right now when we're pick-strapped and need a playmaker and a wing defender? He got 17 mil a year as an FA, which means he had value around the league. His stats playing an outsized roll on a crappy team doesn't change that. |
I don’t disagree with you, but the other side is that it isn't always easy to trade guys. Sometimes you end up stuck with them. Randle's game never traveled well. He never had the type of game where you can throw him on a number of teams and he'd be successful. So in that sense, his trade value was never that high.
I would have held on to him because I am a pitiful, cheap, hoarding miser, but I can also acknowledge the other side of coin in this scenario.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | BadGuy wrote: | | Randle is trash. We really talking about Randle here? He's a bum like Lonzo, and his efficiency has plumetted since he received that ridiculous contract from the Knicks. |
It's about letting an asset to for nothing. Don't think we could use an asset right now when we're pick-strapped and need a playmaker and a wing defender? He got 17 mil a year as an FA, which means he had value around the league. His stats playing an outsized roll on a crappy team doesn't change that. |
I don’t disagree with you, but the other side is that it isn't always easy to trade guys. Sometimes you end up stuck with them. Randle's game never traveled well. He never had the type of game where you can throw him on a number of teams and he'd be successful. So in that sense, his trade value was never that high.
I would have held on to him because I am a pitiful, cheap, hoarding miser, but I can also acknowledge the other side of coin in this scenario. |
IIRC, the Lakers & the Hornets tried to shop Randle, but neither could get a 2nd round pick for him.
I do not know if it was his contract situation or what - but each team tried to get an asset for him and each was rebuffed.
This ain't NBA 2K - they have to want what you're selling.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Kawhi played 37 mins yesterday, props to Minny for coming back late.
I wonder if he sits tonight. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | drae wrote: | Kawhi has made 19FTs though so good to see the refs still want the Clippers to win
37FTs for the Clippers. What a joke |
The joke is Lebron is not even in the top 20 in free throw attempts this year considering he's always getting hacked on drives . |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | Kawhi played 37 mins yesterday, props to Minny for coming back late.
I wonder if he sits tonight. |
I don't think he will ever play back to back games |
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Jalen Rose said he think Lakers will the title because Lakers have the best interior defense while Clippers have excellent perimeter defense. He always prefers size during playoffs.
I think AD and Bron are superior to their duo as well. If both play upto their standards and we stay injury free, I think we will beat them. They don't have anyone to stop AD if rises to the occasion and Bron will always get his no matter who's guarding in the playoffs.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | Kawhi played 37 mins yesterday, props to Minny for coming back late.
I wonder if he sits tonight. |
He’ll probably need to take the entire week off after exerting himself like that
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | Kawhi has 8 turnovers
That's why Clipper fans want a playmaker |
Lebron has 8 TOs, I guess we need a playmaker too.
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| drae wrote: | | AllorNothing wrote: | | drae wrote: | Kawhi has made 19FTs though so good to see the refs still want the Clippers to win
37FTs for the Clippers. What a joke |
The joke is Lebron is not even in the top 20 in free throw attempts this year considering he's always getting hacked on drives . |
Yeah. It's annoying how shooters get all the FTs these days.
Anyway, for the people who think the Clippers have playmakers already - PG had 7 assists and 6 TOs, Kawhi had 2 assists and 8 TOs. |
That is today’s game and why some here have been complaining about our roster construction.
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| saetarubia wrote: | Jalen Rose said he think Lakers will the title because Lakers have the best interior defense while Clippers have excellent perimeter defense. He always prefers size during playoffs.
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That was the popular opinion in 2002.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | Kawhi has 8 turnovers
That's why Clipper fans want a playmaker |
Lebron has 8 TOs, I guess we need a playmaker too. |
Dude, just stop
Kawhi and Lebron are not in the same stratosphere regarding playmaking
There's a reason why people around the NBA have been consitently calling Lebron the best PG in the NBA this season. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:38 am Post subject: |
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It looks like both the Lakers and Clippers are trying to ensure 1/2 seeds.
7/8 are going to be the lesser teams.
You got Houston, Dallas, Denver and Utah at 3-6.
Portland is a bit deceiving because if they get Nurkic and Collins back that’s not your typical 7/8 seed. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| hype wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | drae wrote: | Kawhi has 8 turnovers
That's why Clipper fans want a playmaker |
Lebron has 8 TOs, I guess we need a playmaker too. |
Dude, just stop
Kawhi and Lebron are not in the same stratosphere regarding playmaking
There's a reason why people around the NBA have been consitently calling Lebron the best PG in the NBA this season. |
The use of random counting stats is comical. Pick one random stat out of one random game and Lebron wasn’t the best PG in the Laker-Heat game. We know that game was not normal. I’m sure that the Clippers missing their best PG last night had nothing to do with a random counting stat.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:42 am Post subject: |
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