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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:09 am    Post subject: Paul George says he and Kawhi better on D than Lebron and Davis

Technically, he's right, due to Lebron's selected defensive engagement. That said, why do Clipper players and personnel contantly pick fights with the Lakers?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:11 am    Post subject:

Said this since last summer, keep the Lakers name out yo mouth PG13, you made your bed, sleep in it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject:

I bet Paul George is better on that D.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Paul George says he and Kawhi better on D than Lebron and Davis

troy wrote:
Technically, he's right, due to Lebron's selected defensive engagement. That said, why do Clipper players and personnel contantly pick fights with the Lakers?


You gotta look at the context of the quote, right?

I mean, if some reporter asks "who's better on D, you and Kawhi or LeBron and AD?"

How's he supposed to answer right?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:20 am    Post subject:

Great post! we get to see the link and the context in which he "said" this so clearly.

Keep it up!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject:

Here’s a link to his incredibly benign remarks in context, which don’t mention LeBron or Davis at all:

https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1178392548538060800?s=21
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Here’s a link to his incredibly benign remarks in context, which don’t mention LeBron or Davis at all:

https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1178392548538060800?s=21


neither team is interested in playing the role of "vying for being better than that great other team".. they're not gunna openly talk about eachother
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Paul George says he and Kawhi better on D than Lebron and Davis

troy wrote:
Technically, he's right, due to Lebron's selected defensive engagement. That said, why do Clipper players and personnel contantly pick fights with the Lakers?


Answer:

little brother syndrome
When one person feels they have a rivalry with another far superior person. The superior person usually doesn't know about it or feel that the little brother is any kind of a threat.
The little brother usually puts forth maximum effort in meaningless situations in order to get the feeling of a win over his rival.

E.g. "The Clipper's fans have little brother syndrome. They think they are the Laker's #1 rival."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Paul George says he and Kawhi better on D than Lebron and Davis

pio2u wrote:
troy wrote:
Technically, he's right, due to Lebron's selected defensive engagement. That said, why do Clipper players and personnel contantly pick fights with the Lakers?


Answer:

little brother syndrome
When one person feels they have a rivalry with another far superior person. The superior person usually doesn't know about it or feel that the little brother is any kind of a threat.
The little brother usually puts forth maximum effort in meaningless situations in order to get the feeling of a win over his rival.

E.g. "The Clipper's fans have little brother syndrome. They think they are the Laker's #1 rival."


in reality they still paying rent to lanslord Lakers
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject:

Paul George last season

" Westbrick and I are championship contenders"

No credibility.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:18 am    Post subject:

Kawhi is a bad mother. I respect his game too much.

PG13, I did respect him, but something about him is really off. Can't get my finger on what exactly it is, but just get bad vibes from him.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
I bet Paul George is better on that D.


BVH for the win!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject:

well...lbj is not good at defense so nothing really wrong with the statement. and it's NOT that lbj just doesn't try occasionally. he is BAD at it. he is ok at chase down blocks and help D sometimes, just due to more effort on his end.

so both PG and Kawhi are far better on defense than LBJ. PG is amazing, kawhi is overrated but still really good.

AD is amazing, and the biggest of the bunch, which makes him the best defender. so maybe he is saying kawhi + pg is better than AD. ok fine, that's fine. height difference is only a couple inches also.

and ultimately....so what?? who cares really. in my eyes, the critical guys are going to be AD and PG, not kawhi and lbj.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject:

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The critical guys are going to be AD and PG, not kawhi and lbj.


I love how you exclude the two guys who between them have won 5 of the last 8 NBA championships, and 5 Finals MVPs to focus on two guys who haven't even been in the Finals yet.

Do you just abhor greatness?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

Not really comparable because Davis is not a wing defender.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:51 am    Post subject:

lebron doesn't play a lick of defense so he's right. Supposedly, AD and Vogel are going to force him to defend this season...we'll see how that goes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject:

Not sure why people are up in arms about this.

Comparing basically a small ball PF (LBJ) and C (AD) to two prototypical wing players isn't going to yield any analysis.

And I think most people would generally conclude that KL/PG are better defenders.

If the question is which duo is the best overall for this season, I still go with LBJ/AD.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject:

eF Paul George, really
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:58 am    Post subject:

Forget PG13, check this

https://t.co/zyHH5X9X0B

https://soundcloud.com/damianlillard0/dame-dolla-reign-reign-go-away
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:29 pm    Post subject:

I don't think he took into consideration how good AD is on defense.

My thinking is he was saying as a duo they're better because LeBron doesn't play defense much.

With responsibility being less this year than he's had for awhile James may play more D.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:57 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Here’s a link to his incredibly benign remarks in context, which don’t mention LeBron or Davis at all:

https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1178392548538060800?s=21


The persecution complex of Laker fans lately is beyond annoying. Borderline crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject:

He does whatever he’s told to do. Probably says whatever he’s told to say too. He’s a puppet and that makes him extremely uninteresting as a person.

Dude can ball but I don’t care in the slightest what he does or says off the court.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:05 pm    Post subject:

Luminous8 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
I bet Paul George is better on that D.


BVH for the win!


I LOL'd at work reading that one.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:07 pm    Post subject:

scottpot29 wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
I bet Paul George is better on that D.


BVH for the win!


I LOL'd at work reading that one.


Keep it PG13
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:53 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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The critical guys are going to be AD and PG, not kawhi and lbj.


I love how you exclude the two guys who between them have won 5 of the last 8 NBA championships, and 5 Finals MVPs to focus on two guys who haven't even been in the Finals yet.

Do you just abhor greatness?

you are spouting team accolades and mocking me as usual.

is it crazy for someone to win a ring and not be the best at what they do? of course! there are 14/15 players on a team in that situation. and it could be 15/15 if your team doesnt have the best guy. so you can have all the accolades you want but individually it doesnt necessarily mean much.

pg if you saw the last year or two, can lock down perimiter defenders amazingly well. waaaaaaaaaay better than lbj (who is BAD at it, not just that he isnt the best). and frankly, better than kawhi also. kawhi is a very good defender though, unlike lbj. kawhi the last year benefitted off his annoying skyrocketing reputation, and he also got tons of calls as the playoffs progressed and had an advantage there.

AD is a really good defender. he moves well like KG, is a threat to block anything around the rim (not just on HELP), and he exhibits a high level of skill. not KG level, but similar.

you mock me because im touting the less famous guys. AD and PG are less famous and have fewer accolades than LBJ and kawhi. so what.
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