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methdxman Star Player
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well, LeBron is either even less informed himself than he thinks Morey is,
or LeBron is the epitome of the wealthy aholes who find their own revenue to even more wealth compromised by people engaging in the concepts of Democracy and civil rights.
Disappointing for sure. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Well, LeBron is either even less informed himself than he thinks Morey is,
or LeBron is the epitome of the wealthy aholes who find their own revenue to even more wealth compromised by people engaging in the concepts of Democracy and civil rights.
Disappointing for sure. |
Hypocrite.
Dude supported Kaepernick, who hurt the NFL’s bottom line.
Now that Morey’s hurt the NBA’s bottom line, he’s all about shutting up
Quote: | For someone who stood up for Colin Kaepernick multiple times and frequently stands for social justice and advocates for the right of players to have voices outside of sports, now saying “sometimes it’s best to keep your mouth shut” comes across as incredibly hypocritical. And it’s not hard to understand why this is now his response; his money, the NBA’s billions, and Nike’s billions are all on the line, and all parties want to protect it.
https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-tweets-clarifying-comments-daryl-morey/518932 |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Well, LeBron is either even less informed himself than he thinks Morey is,
or LeBron is the epitome of the wealthy aholes who find their own revenue to even more wealth compromised by people engaging in the concepts of Democracy and civil rights.
Disappointing for sure. |
Hypocrite.
Dude supported Kaepernick, who hurt the NFL’s bottom line.
Now that Morey’s hurt the NBA’s bottom line, he’s all about shutting up |
Yup. It may be unfair that Morey brought it upon the players to field all the questions, but Kap did the same for owners and coaches and fans and players. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Well, LeBron is either even less informed himself than he thinks Morey is,
or LeBron is the epitome of the wealthy aholes who find their own revenue to even more wealth compromised by people engaging in the concepts of Democracy and civil rights.
Disappointing for sure. |
Hypocrite.
Dude supported Kaepernick, who hurt the NFL’s bottom line.
Now that Morey’s hurt the NBA’s bottom line, he’s all about shutting up |
Yup. It may be unfair that Morey brought it upon the players to field all the questions, but Kap did the same for owners and coaches and fans and players. |
Guess LeBron is all about social justice as long as there’s not a price to pay |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Doing the right thing only matters if you are willing to do it whether or not it impacts you personally. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | “I will definitely not ‘shut up and dribble.’ I mean too much to society.” |
Guess he feels Morey has No impact on society |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Great business man in his own right, never been a fan of Lebron's social and or political takes. Still, I have no problems with Lebron, you cant judge someone soley because he supports idiots in a debate or is looking to protect his own assets, etc... |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Great business man in his own right, never been a fan of Lebron's social and or political takes. Still, I have no problems with Lebron, you cant judge someone soley because he supports idiots in a debate or is looking to protect his own assets, etc... |
And I don’t see anyone here judging LeBron solely on anything.
He’s being judged on a hypocritical stance he’s taking. Nothing more, nothing less
That doesn’t take away that he’s a great business man
A great father
A great ball player, etc |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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This soundbite is going to come back and haunt him in the future. |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | 24Legend007 wrote: | Great business man in his own right, never been a fan of Lebron's social and or political takes. Still, I have no problems with Lebron, you cant judge someone soley because he supports idiots in a debate or is looking to protect his own assets, etc... |
And I don’t see anyone here judging LeBron solely on anything.
He’s being judged on a hypocritical stance he’s taking. Nothing more, nothing less
That doesn’t take away that he’s a great business man
A great father
A great ball player, etc |
Why do we care so much? There is a reason he is Lebron James. He is who he is, his own unique person. He wants to be one of the most powerful and influential people on the planet. I'm sorry but you're not spending your free time fighting for peoples rights with this mind state.
I get it he supported Kapernick but didnt really do anything. And the whole "I'm more than athlete" thing was blown way out of proportion (by the way the new "more than an athlete" air force one just dropped).
Im just saying Lebron has always been hypocritical, so I dont see why were surprised? And people have the right to be prejudice on matters that concern them it is not a crime, people change, and many more explanations. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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He's just securing that Chinese money bag! The CCP will send him red Chinese envelopes stuffed with cash when Chinese New Year rolls around.
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Thugnomoe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really care too much for Lebron's political takes.. disagree with a lot of what he says..
but hearing the comment in context.. it seems as though he's taking about Morey tweeting frivolously possibly endangering NBA players.. (those chinese are crazy.. they'll put anyone in jail..) rather than Morey not understanding the situation that's happening in china and Hong Kong. I'm sure Morey knows what's happening.. and Lebron knows that too.. Poor word choice by Lebron.. but he's not really wrong.
I get the whole hypocrisy thing though.. Kerr and Lebron are pretty open about speaking against many human rights violations.. but won't say anything about China who is one of the number 1 culprits of human rights violations.. pollution.. shady business dealings.. that's being pretty inconsistent. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | 24Legend007 wrote: | Great business man in his own right, never been a fan of Lebron's social and or political takes. Still, I have no problems with Lebron, you cant judge someone soley because he supports idiots in a debate or is looking to protect his own assets, etc... |
And I don’t see anyone here judging LeBron solely on anything.
He’s being judged on a hypocritical stance he’s taking. Nothing more, nothing less
That doesn’t take away that he’s a great business man
A great father
A great ball player, etc |
Why do we care so much? There is a reason he is Lebron James. He is who he is, his own unique person. He wants to be one of the most powerful and influential people on the planet. I'm sorry but you're not spending your free time fighting for peoples rights with this mind state.
I get it he supported Kapernick but didnt really do anything. And the whole "I'm more than athlete" thing was blown way out of proportion (by the way the new "more than an athlete" air force one just dropped).
Im just saying Lebron has always been hypocritical, so I dont see why were surprised? And people have the right to be prejudice on matters that concern them it is not a crime, people change, and many more explanations. |
Yeah, I don't get your comment "why do we care so much?"
What's the opposite? To not comment at all?
You might not be surprised. That doesn't mean other's can't be.
I am surprised.
But, why have you changed the topic to our reaction to it? If "people have the right to be prejudice on matters that concern them it is not a crime, people change, and many more explanations" then don't people also have a right to react how they react?
You started off by saying YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM with LeBron being a hypocrite.
Now, you're turning the argument into - since you don't have an issue with it, no one else should either. |
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4stargeneralbulldog Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Leave Lebron alone. He should have said, "Chinese buys sneakers too!" |
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Huey Lewis & The News Star Player
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:36 am Post subject: |
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China even cancelled "Woj in the House", an internet basketball show, because Woj "liked" Morey's tweet. Which may be the only positive item to come from all this. |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Hypocrite. |
Considering I wear clothing and shoes made by Chinese slave labor, I'm hesitant to call anybody a hypocrite. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 am Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Well, LeBron is either even less informed himself than he thinks Morey is,
or LeBron is the epitome of the wealthy aholes who find their own revenue to even more wealth compromised by people engaging in the concepts of Democracy and civil rights.
Disappointing for sure. |
Hypocrite.
Dude supported Kaepernick, who hurt the NFL’s bottom line.
Now that Morey’s hurt the NBA’s bottom line, he’s all about shutting up
Quote: | For someone who stood up for Colin Kaepernick multiple times and frequently stands for social justice and advocates for the right of players to have voices outside of sports, now saying “sometimes it’s best to keep your mouth shut” comes across as incredibly hypocritical. And it’s not hard to understand why this is now his response; his money, the NBA’s billions, and Nike’s billions are all on the line, and all parties want to protect it.
https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-tweets-clarifying-comments-daryl-morey/518932 |
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:20 am Post subject: |
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LeBron shoulda load manage this one out |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Lebron could have (may still be able to) become the "Ali" type sports figure he's sought to inherit, by taking this issue head on. He has the ability to change the culture of the NBA, Nike and how we make purchasing decisions, allthewhile highlighting the plight of Chinese people. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Lebron is all of us. Voicing displeasure when it is convenient and staying quiet when it is not.
Not really fair to hold him to a standard the vast majority of us aren’t willing to hold ourselves to. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:03 am Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Lebron is all of us. Voicing displeasure when it is convenient and staying quiet when it is not.
Not really fair to hold him to a standard the vast majority of us aren’t willing to hold ourselves to. |
He could've gone the no comment or deferred to the question...instead he threw Morey under the bus. I noticed in the Lebron thread our resident CCP friends went out of their way to congratulate Lebron for making this statement since it makes them look good. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:13 am Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Lebron is all of us. Voicing displeasure when it is convenient and staying quiet when it is not.
Not really fair to hold him to a standard the vast majority of us aren’t willing to hold ourselves to. |
The vast majority of us are not public figures and don’t make money off our celebrity. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:22 am Post subject: |
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He was misinformed as to how serious the Chinese take these kinds of things
Morey probably had no idea any of this would occur. Americans think everyone wants "Democracy" and seek to promote it.
Innocent Tweet revealed too much about Money vs Human life
I am glad something like this has happened. Tremendous amount of dialogue and no violence. |
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