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| suck thing is our front office should have realize this BEFORE the season starts. now every team knows Lakers are desperate for Iggy, and the price has just gone up. |
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| kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Wasn't the vision to go after Kawhi? So that's a pretty good vision (as seen by last night).
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Just couldn't get Kawhi to buy into his vision I guess. But admittedly, Magic went 1/2 when it came to that part too. Magic pitched to Bron and PG13. Rob pitched to AD and Kawhi. |
The issue was just not having the intel on KL and how he was playing the Lakers. If they knew that, could have steered the ship away much faster. |
At least Green balled out game 1. But like you said, KCP is just ... yuck. |
I was so happy when we signed Green. Have liked him since his Carolina days.
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Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Depends what they do with Boogie. I guess.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Zach Norvell |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Zach Norvell |
Good SG size, too small to cover big wings like KL/PG.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Zach Norvell |
Good SG size, too small to cover big wings like KL/PG. |
True. But I am more concerned with guard play tbh. KCP is a disaster. Green can cover those wings. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Zach Norvell |
Good SG size, too small to cover big wings like KL/PG. |
True. But I am more concerned with guard play tbh. KCP is a disaster. Green can cover those wings. |
Sure. but he needs to rest too. Who covers when he sits?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Justin Anderson?
Shumpert (too small, right?)
Mbah Moute?
But we're at 15 on the roster too. Sigh. |
Zach Norvell |
Good SG size, too small to cover big wings like KL/PG. |
True. But I am more concerned with guard play tbh. KCP is a disaster. Green can cover those wings. |
Sure. but he needs to rest too. Who covers when he sits? |
Lebron a few mins. Dudley a few mins. Kuz a few mins.
I mean don’t get me wrong, I would be glad to get a defensive wing.
But I am most concerned with guard play. We have no dribble penetrators that can spot up or dish. Quinn Cook might be our best player at it. |
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The answer up until 6 weeks ago was Sefolosha.
Now, it's probably Mbah a Moute or Corey Brewer.
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Other than the Clips ... who are we really concerned with defending at the wing this season?
Feels like we should be able to scheme specifically for Clippers but if we are talking about adding a roster spot, do it for an area where we are weak on a nightly basis. |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | The answer up until 6 weeks ago was Sefolosha.
Now, it's probably Mbah a Moute or Corey Brewer. |
Yeah I was surprised we didn't consider Thabo. He has been consistent with the 3 the past seasons.
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I'm clearly in the minority herein thinking this way, but I always thought they needed not one but TWO wing defenders.
If they were smart enough to convince Davis to play center, they'd have space for the two defensive wings they really, really need.
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^Of course they need two.
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That Mo Harkless move by the Clips was brilliant. And they got a 1st from Miami, right?
IMO he'll be the reason why the Clips don't need Iggy or won't trade for him.
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| ringfinger wrote: | Other than the Clips ... who are we really concerned with defending at the wing this season?
Feels like we should be able to scheme specifically for Clippers but if we are talking about adding a roster spot, do it for an area where we are weak on a nightly basis. |
As bad as they need a third scorer who can penetrate and shoot, they need a SF more.
James shouldn't even be guarding that position anymore. Pope will be challenged nightly. And Dudley is capable but will need a more than capable backup when he is athletically over matched.
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| ringfinger wrote: | Other than the Clips ... who are we really concerned with defending at the wing this season?
Feels like we should be able to scheme specifically for Clippers but if we are talking about adding a roster spot, do it for an area where we are weak on a nightly basis. |
Yes, because regardless of position, the team really lacks a playmaker that can net positive productivity on the court outside of LeBron. No Rondo, thanks.
Wing is just the primary position because it's the most obviously lacking on the roster, and depending on the wing, they can fulfill those playmaking duties AND provide the necessary defense to win games. No PG or PF is going to do that. World knows we have all the 2s that can in AB, Green, and KCP already.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | something I think many dont realize... Kuzma actually grades out a better wing defender than he does as a PF and he fits the profile of a prototypical wing as a super long and lanky player. He's not the most athletic around but he has all the tools to be a solid defender (just need to keep working on his footwork and technique) |
KCP is actually a solid guard/wing defender in his own right. But he got outpowered by Kawhi. Expected, but it was overwhelming.
I would expect the same vs. Kuzma. |
the height and wingspan difference between Kuzma and KCP would have been night and day defending Kawhi on those bump+stepback shots
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It's just hilarious that IGGY would solve a lot of our needs (wing defender, ability to do some playmaking) but he's in Memphis purgatory right now.
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| audioaxes wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | something I think many dont realize... Kuzma actually grades out a better wing defender than he does as a PF and he fits the profile of a prototypical wing as a super long and lanky player. He's not the most athletic around but he has all the tools to be a solid defender (just need to keep working on his footwork and technique) |
KCP is actually a solid guard/wing defender in his own right. But he got outpowered by Kawhi. Expected, but it was overwhelming.
I would expect the same vs. Kuzma. |
the height and wingspan difference between Kuzma and KCP would have been night and day defending Kawhi on those bump+stepback shots |
I wish I could say yes, but Kawhi has a 7'3" wingspan and the hands of a guy who is basically 7'3".
He literally shoots over tough contests and doesn't need super advanced footwork/handles like other wings do/did in Kobe, McGrady, LeBron, etc.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | It's just hilarious that IGGY would solve a lot of our needs (wing defender, ability to do some playmaking) but he's in Memphis purgatory right now. |
Hell, I know Iggy would be obvious but CP3 on a buyout would be a miracle. Control his minutes, kick Rondo off the team, and actually get a POA and switchable defender!
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I'm not doom and gloom, but the Lakers are becoming the Cowboys before our very eyes. Everything changed when Jerry West left. They managed to win a few more after his departure, but when it came time to completely reconstruct this thing, the organization gad no real clue. Some LG posters have a higher acumen and vision for roster construction than Kupchak, Lucky Sperm, Magic, and Pelinka.
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Are we really giving up on the roster and calling it a waste after 1 game?
I really don't get it.
McGee/Dwight/AD
AD/Lebron
Lebron/Kuzma
Green/Cook or KCP
Bradley/Rondo
This needs to be our rotation, and when it will be, and some time has passed for the team to play significant games and minutes together, I then give up.
The Clippers will get a few beatdowns by the Lakers later on in the season.
Having the combination of AD inside and Lebron outside, when they find that balance of isolating, pick and rolls/pops, and then you have defensive 3 point shooters like Bradley/Green around them. Kuzma comes in and gives some much needed punch of the bench. I wait until then to dismiss this roster as something "Lebron and AD built". |
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I wouldn’t mind grooming the Greek in the mold of Ariza as a wing defender
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