Vogel - Great Job

[Nash Vegas]

[Nash Vegas]

[mad55557777]

[epic_]

Good realization.
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[bandiger]

[Don Draper]

The true test for Vogel will be if he can squeeze extra performance out of our limited personnel to try and cover up our glaring weaknesses. Removing Rondo from the rotation would be a good start. Getting more offensive looks for Caruso and giving Cook some burn would help too. Right now though he looks like he's happy just plodding along with the same rotation.

[scout0_0]

Bradley, Mcgee, Rondo, and even Caruso are all non motion shooters. This is why the offense keeps failing. You need motion players that can shoot off the move next to Davis and Lebron who are bad shooters!


This is whats going on in Philly... it is a numbers thing!


KCP
Green
Kuzma
LeBron
Davis


Develop a style where we move a lot... swing the ball side to side, run in transition. But our bread and butler has to be LeBron and Davis high pick and roll with all those shooters... back door cuts will be open all the time... lanes will open up.

[Jordan-esque]

Totally didn’t understand why we went small ball. Even Charles Barkley was saying pregame Rockets couldn’t match us. Then we decide to play small ball too? Huh?
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[2019]

[Cyberfreak444]

Lakers ran a pick and roll between LBJ and AD that resulted in a lob dunk for AD. But then they decided not to again. It’s absurd that the Lakers have two of the best pick and roll players in NBA history but barely use them in pick and rolls. They also don’t put consistent spacing around their stars. Too many LeBron plus AD minutes have both Bradley and Mcgee or both Rondo and Kuzma.

[mad55557777]

I think if Phil was coaching tonight, he would played Dwight and give wide open shots to tucker, if he makes them, he makes them.

[scout0_0]

We insist in playing thrugh the post with Davis but there is a reason why post play is dead. There is a reason why Philly is so terrible. There is a reason why we are 1-8 vs contenders.

https://ibb.co/jbKgkyX

It kills all offensive flow. Bodies stop moving, the ball stops moving, you trade 2 for 3s.

Points per shots in the NBA

https://ibb.co/z213CTk

Davis shot chart:

https://ibb.co/wRnpNdz

Lebron shot chart:

https://ibb.co/SrQ6gvs


After seeing our 2 stars shot charts why would you play Bradley a 28% shooter, and Mcgee next to them? What happens with Davis if you plant another 7 footer in the paint? He becomes a jump shooter which he sucks at.

Rondo should never see the floor period. Why is KCP not starting? what about daniels 38%???

Vogel keeps pkaying Rondo-Caruso-Kuzma or Bradley-Caruso-Mcgee

all those line ups will get killed over the long run.


LeBron has the highes PP asssit in the NBA and has created the most corner 3s.. You would be dumb not to start KCP and Kuzma and move Davis to Center where he belongs.

[scout0_0]

You go small to enhance spacing and shooting not to lower your height average. Look at this line up Vogel threw out there:

Rondo
Caruso
KCP
Kuzma
Lebron

Only 1 guy is a shooter. If you are going to so this Green + Cook or Troy need to be in the game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQJ8YQUUEAE6RUj?format=jpg&name=large

Look at rondos man under the rim Then you say lebron didnt try or looked passive... There are no driving lanes for him to attack. This coach is really pissing me off

[ducasse]

[scout0_0]

[mad55557777]

[DrDent]

[Judah]

Beyond just the x's and o's, one thing Vogel will have to do to get the most out of this group is figure them out mentally. Not to compare him to Phil, but Phil was the best ever at getting a group to stay focused and totally locked in on the task. He knew how to push buttons and how to motivate.

Also, an area where the Clippers have them beat is that they play with an edge, and adding Morris has exaggerated that...dramatically. The Clippers have dogs. Doc is great at assembling those types of players. The Lakers have a couple of dogs too, but one of them is recovering from a torn ACL and the other isn't even a rotation player in terms of production (Rondo). It's gonna take more than just x's and o's to beat the Clippers.

But even from an x's and o's perspective, I'm still very concerned about this offense. I have very little confidence that it will excel in a 7 game series against an elite defense that has an entire series to scout it and expose it's weaknesses. Allowing Kidd to design the schemes was such a critical mistake.
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[miggz23]

Really hard for me to see what he likes about Rondo being on the floor with Lebron. Is it too load manage him while Lebron is on the court? But the offense and floor spacing is just horrible. Then you throw in Caruso in there just makes it even worst. What's up with that closing line up?

Caruso and Bradley together... Another combo that's been horrible in the past.

If they continue to play Rondo this way, dude's game is just phased out at this point.

[danzag]

Ugh

WTF was Vogel thinking

[scout0_0]

Bad analytics guy, nice guy but numbers matter.

[DrDent]

[mad55557777]

[kikanga]

Our offense has the depth of a kiddy pool. And when we play teams with comparable talent to us. It shows.
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[AFireInside619]

Problems from the beginning.

Playing way way way too much Rondo.
Not playing to Kuzma’s strengths.
Not enough Pick and Roll plays. (AD/Bron, Dwight/Cook)
Not giving Cook a chance.
Too much forcing AD in the post. AD isn’t playmaking and this isn’t the 90’s.

Hopefully he can adjust from the Houston game. A lot of that was on Vogel.
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