AD, KG, TD, KM, DN, CB, KM, PG, SD, OF, LS,
EM, QI, XO, YM, LA, BD, ZU, RI, WJ, RW, DR,
MM, AK, YH, HB, MJ, JI
1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. Garnett
4. Barkley
5. Dirk
6. Pettit
7. McHale
8. Elvin Hayes
9. Pau Gasol
10. Rodman
11. Davis
12. Jerry Lucas
13. Dolph Schayes
A. A number of these guys played multiple positions in their career (Duncan, Garnett, Barkley, Davis), but I think PF is a reasonable designation for all of them.
B. Pettit is there for historical reasons-- the first great PF who was a two-time MVP in the early days of the league. Schayes is another old-timer
3. AD could move up, but his career is still early
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:22 am Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
epak wrote:
kikanga wrote:
epak wrote:
Why not just one poll?
Who's the greatest all-around PF of all time?
AD, KG, TD, KM, DN, CB, KM, PG, SD, OF, LS,
EM, QI, XO, YM, LA, BD, ZU, RI, WJ, RW, DR,
MM, AK, YH, HB, MJ, JI
Who the hell are 1/2 these initials?
I'll try to decipher them as best i can.
AD= Brow
KG = Garnett
TD= Duncan
KM= Malone
DN = Dirk
CB = Barkley
KM (again) = Kenyon Martin?
PG = Gasol
SD, OF, LS, EM, QI, XO, YM, = ?
LA = Aldridge
BD, ZU, RI, WJ, RW, DR= ?
MM = Moses Malone
AK= Kirilenko?
YH, HB, MJ, JI= ?
Maybe YM and JI are Yao and Dr. J. But I haven't heard of either of them listed as PFs before.
You are a good man!
But bruh.... KM. Kenyon Martin? Look at the title of the thread.
That's why I put the question mark after.
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:44 am Post subject:
Not sure how to really compare the players and era's. Malone was the best #4 in the NBA during his prime and has a more accomplished individual career "at this point". Malone was a 2x NBA MVP and has 36,928 career points....so AD has a bit to go before he deserves to be in that comparison.
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:49 am Post subject:
Mamba81 wrote:
ad of course. defense and better all around player!! malone had one of the best point guards and still could not win a title. give ad steph curry to play with and he would have 2 championships by now!!
How many titles do you believe that AD has won? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Not sure how to really compare the players and era's. Malone was the best #4 in the NBA during his prime and has a more accomplished individual career "at this point". Malone was a 2x NBA MVP and has 36,928 career points....so AD has a bit to go before he deserves to be in that comparison.
Darn near impossible to compare.
Technological advances.
Change in game.
Change in diet.
If Wilt played in this era, would he still have been dominant?
If Steph played in the 80s, would he still have changed the game with his 3 point shooting? Would he have even been allowed to take those 3s?
There's only one known answer about comparing eras: Boston would not have won those early titles if they played against a balanced league.
AD is probably more skilled...with the handles, driving ability, range etc.
But i would pick Malone over AD if I were building a team today. Malone would be unstoppable in this soft era. Plus I don't recall him ever being injured.
With all of that said, I would pick AC Green over all of them
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:38 pm Post subject:
Mamba81 wrote:
ad of course. defense and better all around player!! malone had one of the best point guards and still could not win a title. give ad steph curry to play with and he would have 2 championships by now!!
AD hadn't done much in N.O. Curry gets befuddled by Delvadulva, so I'll put my money on Pippen and MJ and the Bulls defense.
So we need to ask what era are we playing in? AD and Curry have a much better shot at winning the title in today's era than against the Bulls. But still a team with AD and Curry probably wouldn't be constructed as deep as Curry's Warriors, so I don't think AD and Curry would be as dominant as you think. GS needed an obvious unfair advantage (KD) to beat the Cavs.
ad of course. defense and better all around player!! malone had one of the best point guards and still could not win a title. give ad steph curry to play with and he would have 2 championships by now!!
AD hadn't done much in N.O. Curry gets befuddled by Delvadulva, so I'll put my money on Pippen and MJ and the Bulls defense.
So we need to ask what era are we playing in? AD and Curry have a much better shot at winning the title in today's era than against the Bulls. But still a team with AD and Curry probably wouldn't be constructed as deep as Curry's Warriors, so I don't think AD and Curry would be as dominant as you think. GS needed an obvious unfair advantage (KD) to beat the Cavs.
Probably only be fair for them to play in a neutral era. Like the 1950s or something. No era advantage.
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:52 am Post subject:
secund2nun wrote:
AD. I don't think Malone would be as valuable today because of his lack of shooting range and while he was a solid defender, he was not a rim protector like AD and overall a much worse defender than him also.
Malone has a lack of shooting range? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
AD. I don't think Malone would be as valuable today because of his lack of shooting range and while he was a solid defender, he was not a rim protector like AD and overall a much worse defender than him also.
Malone has a lack of shooting range?
ad is hitting threes. malone did not. its not that he cant, he just didnt because of the times. but he showed an ability to develop a reliable jumper and fts, so i dont see any reason why he wouldn't be able to shoot threes today if he were playing.
also...the way malone could deal with like triple teams is not something you even see with guys now like ad or kawhi or lbj etc. he could literally play basketball with 3 guys all around him in the post and still get things done. you dont even see this anymore.
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:59 am Post subject:
We lost to the Jazz year after year before Phil came here. Build a distaste for him, so you'll never hear me praise K. Malone.
I know he did his part to try to help us win when he was here. Even though he wasn't 100%. But factoring in what he did off the court too.
I just can't say anything nice about him. Or rather, I don't want to. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
AD is probably more skilled...with the handles, driving ability, range etc.
But i would pick Malone over AD if I were building a team today. Malone would be unstoppable in this soft era. Plus I don't recall him ever being injured.
With all of that said, I would pick AC Green over all of them
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