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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:15 am Post subject: Anthony Davis vs prime Tim Duncan
Having beaten both KG and Malone, there is only one PF standing in AD’s way for best PF ever... So, guys, what do we think? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Anthony Davis vs prime Tim Duncan
CandyCanes wrote:
Having beaten both KG and Malone, there is only one PF standing in AD’s way for best PF ever... So, guys, what do we think?
Karl Malone, I get. But being better than KG? No way. AD still has a long ways to go to prove himself to be better than KG. KG was a monster and was neck and neck with Tim Duncan as to being the #1 PF in the league during that era.
KG had:
reliable range out to the 3;
could guard 3's (see his shutdown of TMac);
awesome weakside/help out of nowhere shot-blocker;
clutch;
good locker room leader; and
always brought ferocity to the game;
his only loss is when he got punked by Anthony peeler.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Anthony Davis vs prime Tim Duncan
monster_montego wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Having beaten both KG and Malone, there is only one PF standing in AD’s way for best PF ever... So, guys, what do we think?
Karl Malone, I get. But being better than KG? No way. AD still has a long ways to go to prove himself to be better than KG. KG was a monster and was neck and neck with Tim Duncan as to being the #1 PF in the league during that era.
KG had:
reliable range out to the 3;
could guard 3's (see his shutdown of TMac);
awesome weakside/help out of nowhere shot-blocker;
clutch;
good locker room leader; and
always brought ferocity to the game;
his only loss is when he got punked by Anthony peeler.
kd didnt have reliable range from 3!! ad stats better!! he stops the paint and wing players!! sounds like you are basing off nostalgia not reality!!
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Anthony Davis vs prime Tim Duncan
monster_montego wrote:
KG had:
reliable range out to the 3;
could guard 3's (see his shutdown of TMac);
awesome weakside/help out of nowhere shot-blocker;
clutch;
good locker room leader; and
always brought ferocity to the game;
Some quick notes there:
- KG only shot above 30% from three two times in his career and never higher than 33.3%. AD has already shot over 30% three times in his career with a career high of 34%.
- I don't see the clutch bit. KG was great but the biggest knock against him is that he didn't want the ball to dominate in clutch moments. He only averaged 18 per game in the playoffs over his career with just 3 seasons at 24+ points (27 tops). AD averaged over 30 in both of his trips to he playoffs, maxing at 31.5.
- KG was a great defender and as you mention a good weakside shot blocker. But I don't see that as an advantage over AD. KG only averaged 2+ blocks twice in his career, and never higher than 2.2. AD has already led the league in blocks three times, and his career average (2.4) is higher than KD's career best. He's leading the league in blocks again this season.
Personally I think AD vs. KG is debatable. AD needs to get at least a couple of titles under his belt before he enters into the discussion with Tim Duncan.
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Anthony Davis vs prime Tim Duncan
monster_montego wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Having beaten both KG and Malone, there is only one PF standing in AD’s way for best PF ever... So, guys, what do we think?
Karl Malone, I get. But being better than KG? No way. AD still has a long ways to go to prove himself to be better than KG. KG was a monster and was neck and neck with Tim Duncan as to being the #1 PF in the league during that era.
KG had:
reliable range out to the 3;
could guard 3's (see his shutdown of TMac);
awesome weakside/help out of nowhere shot-blocker;
clutch;
good locker room leader; and
always brought ferocity to the game;
his only loss is when he got punked by Anthony peeler.
You consider KG above Malone? Malone is the #2 all-time scorer, above Jordan and Kobe. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 35750 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:33 pm Post subject:
drae wrote:
Can't go past Tim Duncan
But AD still a beast
What made Duncan so good? His offensive stats aren’t amazing— career high of 25 PPG, usually low twenties and even high teens. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Edge to Timmy until AD brings home the hardware. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:12 pm Post subject:
5 rings in Spurs Universe, with players orbiting around TD Star. Gave Shaq the business in the 99 playoffs, then again in '03. In '04, if they had review rules in place, Fisher shot wouldn't have counted, and Spurs would have gone up 3-1. Seeing how we did against the Pistons, Spurs must have felt that it was such a waste to lose to us.
He was formidable and prevented Shaq/Kobe from getting a few more rings. Crazy if anyone will pick AD over him. It's not even a guarantee that we will win a chip in this Lebron window, but people already counting future chips to give AD edge over guys like Karl Malone. Sorry, you cannot spin anything to give him edge over TD.
Unfair comparison since TD has the championship credentials x 5. He's one of the GOATs, if not the GOAT at his position. It's not easy to say this since I hated the Spurs.
5 rings in Spurs Universe, with players orbiting around TD Star. Gave Shaq the business in the 99 playoffs, then again in '03. In '04, if they had review rules in place, Fisher shot wouldn't have counted, and Spurs would have gone up 3-1. Seeing how we did against the Pistons, Spurs must have felt that it was such a waste to lose to us.
He was formidable and prevented Shaq/Kobe from getting a few more rings. Crazy if anyone will pick AD over him. It's not even a guarantee that we will win a chip in this Lebron window, but people already counting future chips to give AD edge over guys like Karl Malone. Sorry, you cannot spin anything to give him edge over TD.
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:59 pm Post subject:
If we're talking just pure impact and individually without any accolades i'd say it's def. close with AD having the potential to being better if he continues dropping that 3 at a high clip especially.
What really makes separates Duncan from the few guys in his class is his longevity and championships. AD has A LOTTTTTT to do before he can be in that class with Duncan. Just like I hate hearing these Doncic and Lebron comparisons.
At the end of the day the only big man better today is Giannis imo and Davis is not far behind. Hopefully AD can start piling up those achievements and you will start hearing the Duncan comparisons much more often.
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