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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: AB or KCP?

Typically it's not cool for a player to lose his starting position due to injury but I can't help but notice how well our offense has been playing with KCP starting as opposed to AB. The Lakers are now #5 in the league in offensive efficiency. Defensive efficiency has slipped a little to #7. I think the team has better balance and chemistry with KCP in the starting lineup.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject:

to me its simple, kcp should keep starting as long as he continues this level of play. i think its a bad decision to move him back to the bench where he struggled and potentially screw him up mentally. dude is shooting 44% from 3!! he and danny green is the floor spacers that bron and ad need!! and kcp is also a good defender. hes not good as avery on defense but he is still more than capable. the gap between kcp's shooting and avery's shooting is wayy bigger than the gap between avery's defense and kcp's defense!!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject:

hmm, I am not convinced what is taking place on the court when they are on the court has a lot to do with either as long as they are not causing problems. I lean towards KCP, but I am not sure there is a material dropoff with AB.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject:

Imagine KCP actually improving the offense/team...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject:

Go back to AB. Our defense has slipped since he left.

I think KCP does a lot better with Lebron than without. I’m guessing based on what I have seen, but he feels more settled.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject:

Starting does matter. It is who closes, and are best lineup includes both.

AB
KCP
DG
LJ
AD

All are at least slightly better than average on both sides of the ball.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:46 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:22 pm    Post subject:

I just hope Rondo goes back to the pine once AB returns.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:24 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
I just hope Rondo goes back to the pine once AB returns.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject:

Bradley is more Important for the starting line up because we need that bull dog mentality on defense, KCP can still do his thing and produce off the bench.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:28 pm    Post subject:

RI Laker wrote:
Starting does matter. It is who closes, and are best lineup includes both.

AB
KCP
DG
LJ
AD

All are at least slightly better than average on both sides of the ball.


If you’re saying they both matter (starting/closing) then I agree with you.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:31 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:22 pm    Post subject:

I honestly think it should be KCP/AB instead of Danny Green.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:48 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
governator wrote:
DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject:

Bradley sets a defensive tone early. I think that is important to start out games. If you like offense, of course you will choose KCP. I think defense is more reliable so I would focus on that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Bradley sets a defensive tone early. I think that is important to start out games. If you like offense, of course you will choose KCP. I think defense is more reliable so I would focus on that.


BINGO.

If AB is healthy, let's lock teams down from the tip-off.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject:

we need them all, doesn't matter who starts. it's not about their percentage or average. It's about having these 3-4 guys who can get hot from the arc, basically. With this team, we need at least one guy getting hot each game to win. It doesn't matter who. some nights it will be KCP, other nights Bradley, etc. SOme nights, multiple, and it will be a blowout.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject:

You guys must be new to KCP. He's one of the most streakiest players. Everyone wanting him to replace Bradley in the starting lineup are bandwagon-thinkers: Jump on the next hottest thing.

I'll consider history and realize that KCP is incapable of putting together a complete season and just enjoy his current hot streak before the real KCP stands up.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:32 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Bradley sets a defensive tone early. I think that is important to start out games. If you like offense, of course you will choose KCP. I think defense is more reliable so I would focus on that.


I agree. Also, KCP is a streaky player. He will go cold again soon. AB's defense is consistent and gets everyone else fired up on defense early
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
governator wrote:
DG/AB starting unit
KCP/Caruso 1st back up
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

KCP has played well for several consecutive games, but we're inconsistent on defense lately without AB setting the tone early. We have a lot of capable scorers, and we're getting further and further into our offensive schemes. Of course our offense is going to improve, KCP or no KCP. Way premature to elevate KCP over AB.

What they've proven so far is that AB, Green, KCP and Caruso are our top 4 guards in the rotation, and all 4 of them warrant playing time based on the matchups.

But put Bradley on the bench? I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:17 pm    Post subject:

FrankUnderwood wrote:
defense wrote:
Bradley sets a defensive tone early. I think that is important to start out games. If you like offense, of course you will choose KCP. I think defense is more reliable so I would focus on that.


I agree. Also, KCP is a streaky player. He will go cold again soon. AB's defense is consistent and gets everyone else fired up on defense early


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject:

AB and it's not even a debate imo.

He was just starting to look much better offensively that last little while before he went down too so looking at his overall numbers are a little deceiving.

Since training camp the entire time and coaching staff has been preaching defense first and AB is another entire level above any other perimeter defender we have when healthy.

Keep giving KCP plenty of minutes though as long as he is delivering like he has lately.
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