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Ingram14
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| KCP to start....Lakers have had some issues with slow to warm up offense lately and he’s be coming around on offense. Then AB to close out games with D? Seems like Green and even Rondo get those 4th Q minutes lately though. |
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Lucky_Shot
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Game James wrote: | You guys must be new to KCP. He's one of the most streakiest players. Everyone wanting him to replace Bradley in the starting lineup are bandwagon-thinkers: Jump on the next hottest thing.
I'll consider history and realize that KCP is incapable of putting together a complete season and just enjoy his current hot streak before the real KCP stands up. |
He is streaky but he is only 26 and he is only entering his prime now. It is possible that he has just plain improved and has taken his game to the next level, at least I hope he has
I'd start KCP |
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unleasHell
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Mamba81 wrote: | | to me its simple, kcp should keep starting as long as he continues this level of play. i think its a bad decision to move him back to the bench where he struggled and potentially screw him up mentally. dude is shooting 44% from 3!! he and danny green is the floor spacers that bron and ad need!! and kcp is also a good defender. hes not good as avery on defense but he is still more than capable. the gap between kcp's shooting and avery's shooting is wayy bigger than the gap between avery's defense and kcp's defense!! |
This sums up my feelings EXACTLY... 
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drae
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:13 am Post subject: |
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When Bradley returns the decision to revert back to Bradley or stick with KCP looms large for Vogel
Starters w/ Bradley
9 Games, 103 mins
OffRtg: 106.9
DefRtg: 100.5
NetRtg: +6.5
Starters w/ KCP
8 Games, 94 mins
OffRtg: 122.6
DefRtg: 118.4
NetRtg: +4.2
https://twitter.com/bj_metta/status/1199494798077386754
KCP as a Starter: 189 mins
KCP off the Bench: 194 mins
Starter:
FGAs: 33/56 @ 58.9%
3PTAs: 17/28 @ 60.7%
Bench:
FGAs: 21/60 @ 35%
3PTAs: 4/20 @ 20%
https://twitter.com/bj_metta/status/1199221283696758784 |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:17 am Post subject: |
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You go back to AB. And see if the offense falters. Hard to say if the reason our offense got better is because AB wasnt there because there is also the factor of time.
If it does regress, then you consider a switch. |
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hydrohead
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Avery should start. He doesn’t have a better role than playing alongside LeBron as a secondary ball handler and point of attack defender. and the Lakers play better with him in the lineup than KCP.
If KCPs production slips, its next man up.
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55
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| More important to shut down the other team from the start and not let them get into a rhythm. Our scoring punch can follow that. |
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lukewaltonsdad
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KCP - he isn't the ball-hawk defensively, but he's more than adequate on defense (when he's not guarding bigger wings), he spaces the floor all the way to the 3-point line, I love the way his fills the lane in transition, etc...
Bradley can always finish games...or you can stagger the both of them. |
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AD23
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever works as long as we keep winning! |
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durden-tyler
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| lukewaltonsdad wrote: | KCP - he isn't the ball-hawk defensively, but he's more than adequate on defense (when he's not guarding bigger wings), he spaces the floor all the way to the 3-point line, I love the way his fills the lane in transition, etc...
Bradley can always finish games...or you can stagger the both of them. |
Bradley-KCP-Green-LeBron-Davis could be an interesting lineup... |
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CRoost
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| 55 wrote: | | More important to shut down the other team from the start and not let them get into a rhythm. Our scoring punch can follow that. |
Agree. Bradley set the tone defensively and without him, teams just have their ways and those teams aint exactly good team. We just have good enough offense to roll through and KCP in a hot streak also help a lot.
Look how Clips handled the Mavs. They took the head (Doncic) and the rest could not do anything and drop dead. |
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FrankUnderwood
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:10 am Post subject: |
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The defense takes a big dive with KCP starting but the offense goes up a lot. Still, I would rather have AB because his defense is consistent while KCPs shooting is streaky |
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gng930
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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We should take into account the quality of our opponents since KCP has been starting and the fact that the winning margin has been dwindling. Is that complacency or reality? Only time will tell. I'm still on the start AB wagon until then.
I too like the idea of AB-KCP-Green as our primary closing lineup.
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durden-tyler
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| IMO it doesn't really matter who starts between KCP and AB, but I'd always go with Bradley in the clutch. Defense over offense... |
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I think what this shows is that KCP is best served being matched up as a 1, who plays off Lebron as point forward. Usually smaller 1st are defending KCP and Lebron is being taken by a 3 or 4.
As well seems KCP has good chemistry with AD, Lebron, Green. Even Dwight. Interesting to see what they do.
KCP has a size advantage on 1 vs smaller 1s. He does not get this advantage at 2. Then, he also does not get anywhere near the same looks, being a backup 2 coming in on the 2nd unit. The looks AD and Lebron create, man, ridiculous. |
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67ShelbyGT
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Start AB. Better defender. Much better with the waterbugs. Give natural defensive balance. KCP is better for switching but he can’t stay in front of 1s as well.
You can still stagger the minutes so kcp gets run with Bron/AD but AB easily for me.
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55
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| CRoost wrote: | | 55 wrote: | | More important to shut down the other team from the start and not let them get into a rhythm. Our scoring punch can follow that. |
Agree. Bradley set the tone defensively and without him, teams just have their ways and those teams aint exactly good team. We just have good enough offense to roll through and KCP in a hot streak also help a lot.
Look how Clips handled the Mavs. They took the head (Doncic) and the rest could not do anything and drop dead. |
Tonight was a perfect example of why you need AB to start defensively. Holiday got hot and instilled confidence in his team. |
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