Pregnant woman saves husband, kills one of two home intruders with AR-15

[lakersken80]

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[Thugnomoe]

https://twitter.com/GrantB911/status/1211384089019858946

if there weren't good guys with guns.. this would have been a massacre.

you won't see this on main stream media.



Also.. the "weapons of war" talking point is nothing but anti 2A garbage.. you realize they carry pistols in war right?

I own an AR15.. its not a big scary military weapon of war. its the most popular rifle. mainly because its customizable. and it basically shoots a 22size round.

[Omar Little]

[Thugnomoe]

false facts? you just affirmed everything I said..

pistol is a weapon of war..secondary or not..

and .223 is what an AR15 shoots..

tell me what's false??

[Omar Little]

[Thugnomoe]

not trying to mislead people.

I agree with your logical conclusions.. which is where places like the UK eventually go.. outlaw rifles.. outlaw handguns.. outlaw knives.. its the natural logical progression..and I think all of it is wrong. there's far too much gov't control and that's why we have a 2A.

you want to talk about misleading?

https://me.me/i/this-is-the-size-of-a-hole-made-by-an-22691629

here you go.

I never said that an AR shoots a 22LR round.. that's misleading..

the whole point of my argument is that people consider the AR15 a big scary gun.. when in fact its the most popular rifle out there..

[Omar Little]

You said it shoots a 22 sized round, and equated it to a handgun. Both are meant to artificiality minimize its potency. Its velocity and agility allow you to achieve high powered results in the target acquisition ability of a handgun. It is a very lethal weapon.

And the whole “you have to be coming for all weapons it’s you’re coming for this one” is tired NRA propaganda. You’re not allowed a stinger missile. Why not? Isn’t coming for stinger missives just a prelude to coming for your handgun?
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[Omar Little]

Btw. Opiates are very popular. Doesn’t really address whether or not they are deadly.
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[Thugnomoe]

opiates? what on earth.. left field bro..
let's stay on topic.

what is a .223 if its not a 22 sized round? you're attributing ill intent when there was none.

do you not see the progression? or has living in LA blinded you..

they limit free speech in the name of safe spaces..
they take your weapons in the name of gun free zones
they take your property in the name of climate control
let's give cops and the gov't everything..
you must really trust the gov't.

I sure as hell don't.

[Omar Little]

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[adkindo]

[Omar Little]

Worth noting that the 5.56 (ar15/m16) and 7.62x39 (aks/ak47) we’re developed coming out of ww2 to solve a specific problem:

The larger bore combat rifles were great at distance and stopping power, but their weight, length, and recoil made them very difficult to control in automatic fire and close quarter combat, where maneuverability to pick up multiple fast moving targets was beyond the big guns. This necessitated the use of machine pistols, chambered in handgun loads but with longer barrels to increase accuracy and range and killing velocity (because a handgun is a weapon of last resort on a battlefield, suitable only for emergency and/or extremely close action). Neither weapon was as good at the other in one end (stopping power vs maneuverable use at closer ranges) of the spectrum, and carrying two was cumbersome, both in terms of the weight and bulk of two weapons and the ammunition for both.

The 5.56 and 7.62x39 loads are “cut down” versions of rifle loads that functionally delivered a weapon that combined more stopping power and range than the machine pistols while giving better maneuverability and fire rates than the full size loads and guns. This allowed the carry of one gun that had acceptable range but was much more lethal in the shorter ranges that much of urban based combat took place at. You can basically cycle through targets with similar speed to a handgun while putting super lethal (5.56 is twice as fast and twice as heavy as the hottest 22lr loads for exponentially higher damage btw, so mentioning the fact that they are both the same effective width is only an indication of lack of knowledge or attempt to mislead, in the context of describing lethality) firepower into play. The best of both worlds so to speak.

Also, soldiers rarely use full auto in combat situations with assault weapons. The cyclic rate of these guns empties magazines too quickly to make it useful on multiple targets spread over more than a few feet, and even short bursts tend to blow through too much ammo. On semi auto, you can put out multiple rounds per second and cycle between more and wider targets while controlling the direction of each round better. With a 30 round mag you can put two rounds at fifteen different targets in a very short period of time at high levels of accuracy, where a hit from either round is highly likely to kill. With a longer rifle you’d be hitting way fewer targets in that time, and have trouble cycling between them, and with a handgun you could cycle as quickly but have limits on accuracy and stopping power (and rounds in all but a few large mag guns). So anyone trying to minimize the civilian ar-15 vs the military version is selling you a bill of goods. It is in almost all ways that matter the genuine article.

One guy with an assault weapon will likely have more kills over a given time period than 2-3 people with handguns at close ranges, even more at moderate range, and the results would be similar with rifles (fewer shots but higher kill ratio than a handgun for a rifle).

In terms of public safety, rifles present the largest threat of over penetration, resulting in potential innocent casualties with misses, and handguns are much more concealable resulting in higher chance to sneak one somewhere, but the assault rifle, when deployed, is the far more lethal danger to the broadest number of people.

What people should be allowed to carry where and when is a legit argument that has waged forever, and even gun enthusiasts are able to see the difference between being allowed to carry a firearm and a bazooka. So regardless of where you stand on the right to carry in principle, it is important to not revolve into nonsense tactics with regard to the factual differences in types of weapons.
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[Thugnomoe]

[Omar Little]

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[Omar Little]

Fwiw, I think you meant the Lapua 338 magnum (the big shell on the right of your picture), which is a long range sniper weapon not real well suited to multiple close range targets. Similarly the 308 Winchester, pictured next to it, is a full rifle cartridge with huge stopping power but too much weight and barrel length and recoil for maximum combat efficiency (this is essentially identical for all but the most pedantic purposes to the ammo in the m14 that the m16 replacer for the purposes I illustrated above). Just throwing out fatter longer cartridges is not making your point any more than equating the ar15 to handguns and the 22 caliber.
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[Omar Little]

Oh, and the socom 458 (to the the immediate right of the .556 in your pic) is a heavier but slower round than the .556 (similar to the ak47 round in that regard) that can be retro fitted into, guess what? An ar 15! It is used where more penetration, pure stopping power via mass and energy, and subsonic (silencer friendly) use in clandestine ops.
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