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Clark Kent Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:27 pm Post subject: Lacking a Killer Instinct |
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Close game, crunch time, if we need a basket who do the Lakers go to?
We have no real closer. Not LeBron, he’s stuck in between scoring and facilitating even late in game. Not Davis, he seems too passive in crunch time and not want to take that responsibility late in game. We have nobody on the team like a Dame or Kawhi who are not afraid to take over and put up shots with the game on the line.
Either LeBron or Davis is going to have to become that, and I hope it will be Davis. I would like to see Davis be the man that starts demanding the ball on clutch situations. Let LeBron do LeBron since it still gets teammates involved, but I hope Davis can develop that killer instinct and be the guy, the closer. _________________ The butter is getting hard. |
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Jordan-esque Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Although I agree and would want to see AD take on that closer role, he’s a little more limited than guys like Dame or Kawhi in that he doesn’t exactly have the best handles to create a lot of separation off the dribble. He’s in the post most of the time and either does a spin move to the basket or make a turnaround jumper. Now if he can develop a skyhook or improve his jumper more consistently and shoot like Dirk... _________________
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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But, But, But they have great chemistry. They really seem to like each other
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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AD had given his fair share. If we want to have him as closer, the coaches should devise a system to maximize his talents. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree.
I think we are not tough enough mentally and physically! _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Relax |
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LaLaLakeShow Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | I disagree.
I think we are not tough enough mentally and physically! |
Hahahahahaha!! I see what u did there _________________ Mamba Made Moments Meticulously Magnificent |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Relax |
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Gellollo Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Well if you want to find a reason to sign JR Smith... |
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njeezy08 Rookie
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:19 am Post subject: |
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The media really has fans not truly knowing what a closer is. They think it's someone who just chucks up shots, and I can't help but shake my head when I hear that narrative spewed from the media onto a message board. A closer is someone who and gets himself and other guys in position to put the game away
Bron is the closer. He has proven time, and time, and time, and time, and time again that he is when shooting the ball. He's also given guys good looks at the basket late in games. That's a closer. Not just someone who jacks up shots but someone who puts himself and others in the best position at the end of the game. Give me that over a chucker 1000% of the time |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Lacking some fire lit under their asses |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:36 am Post subject: |
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team folded vs Bucks, clippers xmas, Boston, Kobe game. They are soft and not championship material |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:37 am Post subject: |
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AD this season is shooting 38.7% in 4th Qs, 1.6FTA, 1.7RB, 0.3A |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:39 am Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | AD this season is shooting 38.7% in 4th Qs, 1.6FTA, 1.7RB, 0.3A |
Damn. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:43 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | AD this season is shooting 38.7% in 4th Qs, 1.6FTA, 1.7RB, 0.3A |
Damn. |
he did have a good Overtime vs Dallas where he went 3/3 which isn't included in those.
he's 2/6 vs the Clippers total in the 4th Q, with no FTs.
Bron in the 4th Q in losses is shooting very poorly, 22%3s, 39% FG ; in wins he's shooting very well, 42% 3s, 47%FG.. so we swing with Bron. |
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ingle Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Lebron and AD ain't closers, that's not their games and not their personalities.
That has been apparent the entire season so it's disappointing we didn't do anything to address that weakness since I think any Laker fan that]s followed the season could tell that would bite us during the big games and the playoffs.
Something needs to change between now and playoffs, whether that's Collison, getting buyout candidates or CBA guys since the Chinese season is now postponed indefinitely. Not a big ask, we don't need Kyrie out there, just someone who has the balls to take some big shots and the skills to make a decent percentage of them and have the opponent respect them |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:08 am Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | AD this season is shooting 38.7% in 4th Qs, 1.6FTA, 1.7RB, 0.3A |
Lack of a proper offensive system |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I wish LeBron would just take over. There is no fear in opposing teams where if the game is tied or they are down, that the game is essentially over. In their eyes, just play defense and hit some shots. Hit defensive rotations and get a hand up to contest Danny Green's shot.
When it should be...the score is tied or we're down and now it's (bleep) LeBron time and we're done. Jesus christ man impose yourself. Break their spirits. They shouldn't have hope. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Don’t criticize AD for not being something you want him to be. He is a very good second option who isn’t known to shine in crunch time. Someone else can win with. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:35 am Post subject: |
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It’s a combination of lack of killer instinct, soft mentally and physically.
Lebron is not the cold killer that Kobe or Jordan was. We don’t have that killer alongside him.
AD shies away from certain physical play, certain opponents know how to take his space away and he settles for the fade.
From a mental perspective, they both tend to give up and take checked out type of shots late.
Maybe it changes in the playoffs, but the pattern of all those attributes has been there most notably against the better teams. |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | It’s a combination of lack of killer instinct, soft mentally and physically.
Lebron is not the cold killer that Kobe or Jordan was. We don’t have that killer alongside him.
AD shies away from certain physical play, certain opponents know how to take his space away and he settles for the fade.
From a mental perspective, they both tend to give up and take checked out type of shots late.
Maybe it changes in the playoffs, but the pattern of all those attributes has been there most notably against the better teams. |
LeBron's never won without another star player on the perimeter. He's gonna need to play like Kobe and Jordan down the stretch because Wade and Kyrie aren't there to take those shots. He can't be passive like this. I'd rather he shoot contested fadeaways than the shots we've been getting. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am Post subject: |
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ingle wrote: | Lebron and AD ain't closers, that's not their games and not their personalities.
That has been apparent the entire season so it's disappointing we didn't do anything to address that weakness since I think any Laker fan that]s followed the season could tell that would bite us during the big games and the playoffs.
Something needs to change between now and playoffs, whether that's Collison, getting buyout candidates or CBA guys since the Chinese season is now postponed indefinitely. Not a big ask, we don't need Kyrie out there, just someone who has the balls to take some big shots and the skills to make a decent percentage of them and have the opponent respect them |
It's LeBron or bust at this point. Collison would be good to take the pressure off LeBron during the course of the game, but LeBron absolutely needs to be that guy down the stretch.
Our opponents shouldn't have spirits if the game is close. "They got LeBron, the game is over." It has to be that or we're not going to beat the Clippers or some of the other better teams in the playoffs. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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DrDent Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Well theres the version of “playoff lebron” that can carry scoring.
We will find our thats for sure. Hopefully we will like the results. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7910 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am Post subject: |
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There are Kobes and there are Shaqs. We seem to have 2 Shaqs. |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:27 am Post subject: |
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DrDent wrote: | Well theres the version of “playoff lebron” that can carry scoring.
We will find our thats for sure. Hopefully we will like the results. |
Playoff mode led us to lottery last year so lets see... |
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