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| Did Balmer Pay Off Collison To Stay Retired? |
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tony smith
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 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Did Balmer Pay Off Collison To Stay Retired? |
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| I say this semi-jokingly. If I was a billionaire and hyper-competitive as Balmer is, and just paid the City of LA 34 Million to upgrade every rec center in LA to a Clipper Court in hopes of indoctrinating future generations of b-ball fans, donating to Collison's church to keep him from addressing our biggest weakness would not be that big a deal. |
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LakerSD
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I wouldn’t be surprised.
If the Buss family can’t hang financially they need to sell. It’s been embarrassing to see the Clippers become a win at all cost organization while the Lakers look reactive and dumbfounded when player X doesn’t choose them... |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:16 am Post subject: |
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honestly with the religious angle in mind, it's not a completely crazy idea
certainly less crazy than some of the things JW's believe
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LakersARETheGOAT
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Yes
He also told harkless to not get bought out
He will pay waiters and smith to sabotage crucial games
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activeverb
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Did Balmer Pay Off Collison To Stay Retired? |
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| tony smith wrote: | | I say this semi-jokingly. If I was a billionaire and hyper-competitive as Balmer is, and just paid the City of LA 34 Million to upgrade every rec center in LA to a Clipper Court in hopes of indoctrinating future generations of b-ball fans, donating to Collison's church to keep him from addressing our biggest weakness would not be that big a deal. |
It's an interesting idea. As far as I know, there is nothing in the NBA rules that would prevent Ballmer from making a charitable donation in exchange for a player not coming out of retirement. (Though the commissioner has broad powers and, if he found this out, he could determine it was not in the best interests of the game and punish the Clippers.)
That said, I haven't heard a suggestion that anything like this happened. |
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Runway8
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Why not just sign him if he wants to play? Church, DC's profess faith, bribe money... yeah this will end well for all parties. Ballmer became a billionaire not from stupidity.
The biggest payment he has made, and it's a legal one, is the payment for the Thunders' future. |
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ringfinger
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No but won’t be at all surprised to see a significant percentage of this fan base pick yes.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:32 am Post subject: |
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If the Buss family can’t hang financially they need to sell. . |
People have been saying this for 30 years.
The CBA prevents the Cubans and Ballmers from paying more salary.
They'll always have an advantage of being able to dip into their pockets for practice facilities, coaches, etc.
That will never be a reason the Busses sell the team, if they ever do sell it. |
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lakersfever714
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Ballmer is evil. Who says money can't buy championships? Clippers are gonna build their own arena a few years from now, too. Clippers have been nothing but on an upswing ever since Ballmer bought the team. Ballmer is like a complete opposite of Sterling who was stingy af.
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:51 am Post subject: |
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If true, and the NBA caught wind of this they’d probably take away the Clippers picks for the next 20 years (the first 10 years are taken by the Thunder). 😝
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LakerSD
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| activeverb wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: |
If the Buss family can’t hang financially they need to sell. . |
People have been saying this for 30 years.
The CBA prevents the Cubans and Ballmers from paying more salary.
They'll always have an advantage of being able to dip into their pockets for practice facilities, coaches, etc.
That will never be a reason the Busses sell the team, if they ever do sell it. |
In a salary cap league, the margins matter. For example, Ballmer dumping money into a machine of an FO while the Lakers pay Pelinka and Rambis is a losing proposition.
We are in an era where basketball ops is a huge entity within a basketball org. If the Buss family can’t compete for front office, scouting, etc. then they need to sell.
The gap is really the Clippers FO vs. Lakers FO. We have endured some embarrassing results past 2 seasons because of this gap.
Sure the Lakers are still good at drafting and relative to the entire league, getting stars to join but it’s simply not enough. Not when other owners are investing huge into well run, professional basketball ops. |
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tony smith
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It's crazy. But the Morris pick-up was more of a defensive move to keep him away from us, then a strategic move to fill a hole in their line up. I see the same thing happening with Jackson should he be bought out.
Balmer wants to win LA. He won't win us current fans over, but he is certainly playing the long game. |
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ContagiousInspiration
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Donate to a organization in the countries he is going to travel to
He leaves country with another 20mil
Great idea if legal. |
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activeverb
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | If the Buss family can’t compete for front office, scouting, etc. then they need to sell. . |
That may be a concern to some of the fanbase, but I doubt the Buss family cares at all. The team continues to make money and (presumably) grow in value. The Busses will likely hold onto it as long as Jeanie, Johnny, etc. are having fun owning and running the team.
Jeanie is 58. I figure she's good for at least another 10 years. Can't imagine she'd want to give up the cache that comes with running the Lakers. |
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yinoma2001
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Oh man, you know this is QFTOS in Clippersground.net and they're laughing it up.
(But let's first see if there's an additional wing to Collison's mansion first ).
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ever (bleep) heard of Microsoft?
I am sure their business practices were kind and never underhanded when they were crushing companies and forcing them to go bankrupt or be bought out |
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venturalakersfan
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| LakerSD wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: |
If the Buss family can’t hang financially they need to sell. . |
People have been saying this for 30 years.
The CBA prevents the Cubans and Ballmers from paying more salary.
They'll always have an advantage of being able to dip into their pockets for practice facilities, coaches, etc.
That will never be a reason the Busses sell the team, if they ever do sell it. |
In a salary cap league, the margins matter. For example, Ballmer dumping money into a machine of an FO while the Lakers pay Pelinka and Rambis is a losing proposition.
We are in an era where basketball ops is a huge entity within a basketball org. If the Buss family can’t compete for front office, scouting, etc. then they need to sell.
The gap is really the Clippers FO vs. Lakers FO. We have endured some embarrassing results past 2 seasons because of this gap.
Sure the Lakers are still good at drafting and relative to the entire league, getting stars to join but it’s simply not enough. Not when other owners are investing huge into well run, professional basketball ops. |
Plus the CBA doesn’t prevent some owners from paying more salary than other, it is a soft cap.
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ringfinger
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This thread is why my sig exists.
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LaLaLakeShow
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Evidence, please.
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| It’s certainly plausible but my guess is that if Mr Silver found out he would exact a painful punishment on the Clippers org, the league can’t afford to allow that sort of thing. |
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kevin_405
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Morris has a role to play for the clippers. It wasnt to keep him away from Lakers.
If Kwahi or PG get in Foul trouble, Morris has the size and shooting to keep their offense moving. That is the main purpose for the trade.
They expect Morris to have a big role in the playoffs where Foul trouble will be a factor.
| tony smith wrote: | It's crazy. But the Morris pick-up was more of a defensive move to keep him away from us, then a strategic move to fill a hole in their line up. I see the same thing happening with Jackson should he be bought out.
Balmer wants to win LA. He won't win us current fans over, but he is certainly playing the long game. |
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RI Laker
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| PHILosophize wrote: |
honestly with the religious angle in mind, it's not a completely crazy idea
certainly less crazy than some of the things JW's believe |
You are the best Phil! |
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