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| loslakersss wrote: | | Give Kenley his props for 2 straight saves of 1-2-3 innings on under 10 pitches. If you still don’t trust him then at least take comfort that he won’t go tomorrow since he pitched b2b games already. |
I don’t trust him but he did a phenomenal job. Super proud and happy. |
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strong9
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| At the very least we took it to game 7. They had fight in them. That's all I really can expect. After 8 years of futility, I can't expect a title. I can demand mental toughness. They looked weak initially but finally showed up. Mookie was big here. His defense and attitude is key. Don't think we have anyone else with that kind of swag. |
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loslakersss
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| strong9 wrote: | | At the very least we took it to game 7. They had fight in them. That's all I really can expect. After 8 years of futility, I can't expect a title. I can demand mental toughness. They looked weak initially but finally showed up. Mookie was big here. His defense and attitude is key. Don't think we have anyone else with that kind of swag. |
You’re forgetting Walker. Dude is clutch as hell. He set the tone today and Mookie took it up a notch. |
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leor_77
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| loslakersss wrote: | | leor_77 wrote: | | Ian Anderson (game 2 pitcher) going for them tomorrow. We didn't score on him last time, but he only lasted 4 innings. |
We got on base a lot though, right? Just didn’t drive em in iirc |
Yeah...Gonsolin wasn't great, but Baez was the one who really ruined that one. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe Davis calling the game. Buck taking Packers-Bucs. |
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strong9
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| loslakersss wrote: | | strong9 wrote: | | At the very least we took it to game 7. They had fight in them. That's all I really can expect. After 8 years of futility, I can't expect a title. I can demand mental toughness. They looked weak initially but finally showed up. Mookie was big here. His defense and attitude is key. Don't think we have anyone else with that kind of swag. |
You’re forgetting Walker. Dude is clutch as hell. He set the tone today and Mookie took it up a notch. |
Actually you're right. Walker has dog in him. That answer to the tight pants question was hilarious. |
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loslakersss
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| leor_77 wrote: | | Joe Davis calling the game. Buck taking Packers-Bucs. |
Cody always seems to step up for Joe’s playoff games. Hoping for another big moment from him. |
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| loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
I agree. I'd start Gonsolin and watch him closely after the first time through the order, assuming he gets that far. Then Urias backing him up and you go about it the same way, you let him go at least one time through the order and you evaluate after that. If they are both locked in, you might get 7-8 innings between the two. Or maybe you only get 6 total. If you have the lead, you live with that. Graterol should be available tomorrow for at least 25-30 pitches, so you might be able to use him for 2 innings if necessary. May only went 2 innings in Game 5 so he might even be available for an inning if need be. I would really, really try to stay away from Kershaw. Stop making him the savior; it's not even fair to him after all of his failures in do-or-die games. He should only be used if we've exhausted all realistic options. |
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| Gonsolin didn't handle the pressure well in his last start, I'd rather Urias start but that's just me. |
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strong9
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
I agree. I'd start Gonsolin and watch him closely after the first time through the order, assuming he gets that far. Then Urias backing him up and you go about it the same way, you let him go at least one time through the order and you evaluate after that. If they are both locked in, you might get 7-8 innings between the two. Or maybe you only get 6 total. If you have the lead, you live with that. Graterol should be available tomorrow for at least 25-30 pitches, so you might be able to use him for 2 innings if necessary. May only went 2 innings in Game 5 so he might even be available for an inning if need be. I would really, really try to stay away from Kershaw. Stop making him the savior; it's not even fair to him after all of his failures in do-or-die games. He should only be used if we've exhausted all realistic options. |
Agree but key question is, does Kershaw start game 1 of the world series IF we advance. I don't know if we have a choice but I'd really like him to be a 3rd starter right now. |
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| strong9 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
I agree. I'd start Gonsolin and watch him closely after the first time through the order, assuming he gets that far. Then Urias backing him up and you go about it the same way, you let him go at least one time through the order and you evaluate after that. If they are both locked in, you might get 7-8 innings between the two. Or maybe you only get 6 total. If you have the lead, you live with that. Graterol should be available tomorrow for at least 25-30 pitches, so you might be able to use him for 2 innings if necessary. May only went 2 innings in Game 5 so he might even be available for an inning if need be. I would really, really try to stay away from Kershaw. Stop making him the savior; it's not even fair to him after all of his failures in do-or-die games. He should only be used if we've exhausted all realistic options. |
Agree but key question is, does Kershaw start game 1 of the world series IF we advance. I don't know if we have a choice but I'd really like him to be a 3rd starter right now. |
You got you do whatever possible to win tomorrow’s game first before even thinking about WS. At least for me, I believe we have a better chance to win without kershaw making an appearance tomorrow, no offense, but that dude is just bad luck, his fault or not. |
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| Who’s having a better postseason, Seager or Arozarena? |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
Concur. Kershaw skill has dropped so much that teams at this level just sit on all his pitches. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Who’s having a better postseason, Seager or Arozarena? |
Seager but not by too much. Both have been incredible |
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
Concur. Kershaw skill has dropped so much that teams at this level just sit on all his pitches. |
When he started the last game with an 89mph fastball, I felt he might have been in trouble.
He really needs to be around 92-93 to get through these playoff lineups.
That’s the difference between Buehler and Kershaw. Buehler can challenge them with his fastball, Kershaw can’t.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
I agree. I'd start Gonsolin and watch him closely after the first time through the order, assuming he gets that far. Then Urias backing him up and you go about it the same way, you let him go at least one time through the order and you evaluate after that. If they are both locked in, you might get 7-8 innings between the two. Or maybe you only get 6 total. If you have the lead, you live with that. Graterol should be available tomorrow for at least 25-30 pitches, so you might be able to use him for 2 innings if necessary. May only went 2 innings in Game 5 so he might even be available for an inning if need be. I would really, really try to stay away from Kershaw. Stop making him the savior; it's not even fair to him after all of his failures in do-or-die games. He should only be used if we've exhausted all realistic options. |
Agree 100%. It’s why I found it odd that ARod mentioned it. No need to be the “savior”. Just trust the guys who are due to pitch and hopefully be ready for game 1 next week. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
Concur. Kershaw skill has dropped so much that teams at this level just sit on all his pitches. |
When he started the last game with an 89mph fastball, I felt he might have been in trouble.
He really needs to be around 92-93 to get through these playoff lineups.
That’s the difference between Buehler and Kershaw. Buehler can challenge them with his fastball, Kershaw can’t. |
The thing that gives me hope (for a possible next round start) is he looked sharp in his first 2 starts and the one this round he was dealing with back spasms. Hopefully a fully rested and recovered kershaw can repeat his WC/NLDS form. |
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| loslakersss wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
Concur. Kershaw skill has dropped so much that teams at this level just sit on all his pitches. |
When he started the last game with an 89mph fastball, I felt he might have been in trouble.
He really needs to be around 92-93 to get through these playoff lineups.
That’s the difference between Buehler and Kershaw. Buehler can challenge them with his fastball, Kershaw can’t. |
The thing that gives me hope (for a possible next round start) is he looked sharp in his first 2 starts and the one this round he was dealing with back spasms. Hopefully a fully rested and recovered kershaw can repeat his WC/NLDS form. |
How many times do we drink from that well though? |
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| Tampa draws first blood. |
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| If Gonsolin pitches well tomorrow its a wrap. Game 1 of the WS has to be Kershaw. There is no one else who will be ready. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| leor_77 wrote: | | Tampa draws first blood. |
If we happen to get to the World Series, in looking at this ALCS, Tampa Bay has the deeper pitching staff. But their lineup is unquestionably worse, especially if we can pitch around Arozarena. The Astros have a far better lineup, and Valdez is pitching like a legitimate ace for them. (And we struggled to hit him during the regular season; his curveball is flat-out filthy.) I think we're a better team than either, but both present different types of challenges. Plus the obvious mental angle of playing the Astros. |
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | If Gonsolin pitches well tomorrow its a wrap. Game 1 of the WS has to be Kershaw. There is no one else who will be ready. |
Oh yes, it simply has to be a question of getting there first. You worry about Game 1 if you get that far. It would likely be May in Game 2 and Buehler in Game 3. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | leor_77 wrote: | | Tampa draws first blood. |
If we happen to get to the World Series, in looking at this ALCS, Tampa Bay has the deeper pitching staff. But their lineup is unquestionably worse, especially if we can pitch around Arozarena. The Astros have a far better lineup, and Valdez is pitching like a legitimate ace for them. (And we struggled to hit him during the regular season; his curveball is flat-out filthy.) I think we're a better team than either, but both present different types of challenges. Plus the obvious mental angle of playing the Astros. |
Im more worried about our pitchers than our hitters and the Astros have the added edge to them and are the better collection of hitters. Matchup wise I prefer Tampa |
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| strong9 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | You think we see kershaw tomorrow? ARod is mentioning it but Gonsolin, Urias, Graterol should be enough. |
Please no more kershaw until next round when we have a lead in the series. I’d take the combination of urias and gonselin as co-starters and see what happens. |
I agree. I'd start Gonsolin and watch him closely after the first time through the order, assuming he gets that far. Then Urias backing him up and you go about it the same way, you let him go at least one time through the order and you evaluate after that. If they are both locked in, you might get 7-8 innings between the two. Or maybe you only get 6 total. If you have the lead, you live with that. Graterol should be available tomorrow for at least 25-30 pitches, so you might be able to use him for 2 innings if necessary. May only went 2 innings in Game 5 so he might even be available for an inning if need be. I would really, really try to stay away from Kershaw. Stop making him the savior; it's not even fair to him after all of his failures in do-or-die games. He should only be used if we've exhausted all realistic options. |
Agree but key question is, does Kershaw start game 1 of the world series IF we advance. I don't know if we have a choice but I'd really like him to be a 3rd starter right now. |
Nobody cares what you think. Kershaw third starter? What kind of psycho (bleep) is that. Even with his bad outing last start it was a pretty solid start. You want Gonselin or May? Those guys barely got out of the 2nd inning. Urias? Great start with a 11 run lead sure..but he has major 1st inning woes and a lot to answer still.
Some of you are unbelievable man. It’s like you’re just waiting to (bleep) on our guys the moment things don’t go the way you want them to. Kersh is a scrub right? Well he went 5 and gave up 3. Oh by the the BP came in and gave up an extra 7 after that AND we didn’t hit. But of course you don’t wanna see a kershaw in game 1. (bleep) it let’s start Joe Kelly. Make some sense. You talk about 10 years of futility but aren’t willing to move on yourself. Maybe the Dodgers have mentally moved on and you haven’t.
We act like Kershaw is the worst pitcher of all time. You have such low expectations of him anyways why does it bother you if he doesn’t go out there and do well? You expected to anyway.
Seager was another write off. Another guy people (bleep) on year after year even though when he was healthy he was as good as any in the league. Now he’s our lord and saviour. And now Bellinger is the scapegoat and Lux is trash ..and tomorrow there will be another guy on this roster people will start (bleep) on. Give the guys a (bleep) chance - what choice do you have? This is baseball. This is how things go. Max Muncy is hitting like doodoo but still influences the game and I’m confident he will turn it around. Guys go cold and guys go hot. It’s just life - sometimes up and sometimes down. Half glass full it sometimes ...stop being miserable.
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