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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | Pretty sure it’s known now that Tyrell Terry had another growth spurt and is now 6’3. Dude is 170 now which is not terrible in weight either.
Comparing to say...Curry who after his junior season at Davidson, Curry came in as 6’3 and 180 pounds. Tyrell is coming off a freshman year and just turned 20 years old. Kid can easily get stronger and build up more weight to catch-up to Curry’s size. Especially if he has the work ethic.
I am not at all comparing him as the next Curry or even close to the same stratosphere talent wise, just that calling him small without even acknowledging comparing to other similar size stars would be a disservice.
If we get Terry, it means we believe the kid has the work ethic to build up his body more, and that he will continue to grow other facets in the game to go along with his knockdown shooting. I would be ecstatic to get him. |
Seems like Terry is skyrocketing up boards and will go 8-16 range. _________________ 24 |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:03 am Post subject: |
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KOC's new mock draft for The Ringer had us taking Robert Woodard with the #28 pick FYI. _________________ 24 |
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dcastillo Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:35 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | KOC's new mock draft for The Ringer had us taking Robert Woodard with the #28 pick FYI. |
If not Green, I would like this kid also. I like Isaiah Joe too from Arkansas |
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818fan Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Anybody want to post Sam Vecenie's mock draft on the Athletic please? |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Megaton wrote: | I was just watching stuff on Tyrell Terry. The kid’s shot is pure. I love it.
He definitely is ideal here. If he can develop into a stronger body, he is going to be a dangerous guard. |
I have him mid 2nd round. |
I think that's nuts, Mike. Wow. Please name 10-20 players you have ahead of him when you have time. |
It's not so much of a player list.
He can shoot. He needs a motion offense to get open. LAL doesn't exactly play that, so I don't think LAL is the place for him to succeed.
On top of that,
Doesn't have advanced ball handling (PnR play/multiple change of direction?)
Not shifty
Not quick
Not strong
Can't defend
It's so hard for small players to excel in the league. Like Tyrell is 175lbs now and that's after +15lbs of strength training. How much more do you think his frame has?
Give me Malachi Flynn. Easily. |
I know the counterargument will be "Stanford system," but given your description I'm shocked to learn that as a 19-year-old freshman Terry averaged 14.6/4.5/3.2 (1.8:1 ATO) on .470/.408/.891 shooting splits (60.4% at rim, 24% assisted) while you make him sound like a barely draftable second round prospect. If Jerod Haase's system is so advanced, why hasn't it been producing more phantom phenoms on par with or better than Terry?
I'm not calling him the next MAR or Steph Curry, but Cole Anthony being older with better handles yet worse outcomes on the court at all three levels means he shouldn't be drafted ahead of Terry, imo. |
Stanford doesn't always get great recruits. But system or not, I'm banking on what I think is usually successful for guards, both big and sma.. I think the system hid a lot of those.
Anthony being ranked higher, regardless of system is due to more success at HS levels, playing with injury for most of the year, and more proven athleticism.
Lots of NBA teams don't run complex offensive systems, so we don't know what Terry looks like without one. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I want a strong defender with the pick if possible. In general just go BPA, but just saying my preference lol.
Isaiah Joe is like a 3pt specialist right? Def interesting.
Desmond Bane and a few others who are strong on D look really interesting to me _________________ 24 |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Desmond Bane
Isaiah Joe
Malachai Flynn
Are three guys that are interesting to me.
I wonder if Klutch is able to find a way to get Tyrese Maxey to fall to us. |
Basically my top 3 guys at the Laker pick so far. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | KOC's new mock draft for The Ringer had us taking Robert Woodard with the #28 pick FYI. |
Pass. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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leking006 wrote: | How about Josh Green or Daniel Oturu guys?
Josh Green - good shooter and can defend
Daniel Oturu - sort of like a poor man's AD, can defend and has a good shooting touch and mobile for a big man. |
Green I have around 15.
Oturu I have around mid to late 2nd. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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PlantedTanks Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | KOC's new mock draft for The Ringer had us taking Robert Woodard with the #28 pick FYI. |
He is in my group of about 8 players that I would take at 28. Not too many wing players who have his athletic profile, skill set and the ability to play both ends of the court. |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I feel like this draft lines up very well for the Lakers. Lot of guys who fill the Lakers needs are available at 28, moreso than most drafts I feel. And I trust our staff to make the right call. |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Man I really like Malachai Flynn, though hes been rising so i could see him going before our pick. _________________ 24 |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Who are the best wing defenders slated to go in the 18-40 range?
Desmond Bane is a really good wing defender, yeah? _________________ 24 |
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Megaton Retired Number
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259891/Tyrell-Terry-Receiving-Mid-First-Round-Interest
Terry now getting mid round first interest.
I'm even thinking about how we could trade up in the draft to get him. I guess we have to hope he falls into our lap now. |
Terry is rising fast. I think he goes in the 12-18 range. _________________ 24 |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Who are the best wing defenders slated to go in the 18-40 range?
Desmond Bane is a really good wing defender, yeah? |
Tyler Bey _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Megaton wrote: | https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259891/Tyrell-Terry-Receiving-Mid-First-Round-Interest
Terry now getting mid round first interest.
I'm even thinking about how we could trade up in the draft to get him. I guess we have to hope he falls into our lap now. |
Terry is rising fast. I think he goes in the 12-18 range. |
Excellent.
Probably ideal for him to go to Philly anyway. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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LakersForever123 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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NBA draft is 1 month away.
I want Cassius Winston for the 29th pick! |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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We are the 28th pick guys, not 29.
I want Tyrell Terry. Incredible shooter and plays a style that’s perfect for today’s NBA.
Although I’m psyched regardless because of this amazing scouting department that we find another gem. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Megaton Retired Number
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Mike@LG wrote: | http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=188606 |
I think that means we should move that thread back to this forum shouldn't we? Now that we are in the offseason and the draft is next up.
We would have a lot more people participating in that thread if it were moved to this discussion forum. There isn't much activity on that side. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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PlantedTanks Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Who are the best wing defenders slated to go in the 18-40 range?
Desmond Bane is a really good wing defender, yeah? |
Tyler Bey |
There are not many that match this criteria. This is the reason I like Robert Woodard II. The added bonus is he also displays skills on the offensive end. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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PlantedTanks wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Who are the best wing defenders slated to go in the 18-40 range?
Desmond Bane is a really good wing defender, yeah? |
Tyler Bey |
There are not many that match this criteria. This is the reason I like Robert Woodard II. The added bonus is he also displays skills on the offensive end. |
I think Woodard is a PF that doesn't have much athletic lift. I am concerned about his shooting #s because his FT% doesn't align with his 3pt %, but it makes sense that he's low volume behind the arc. Would much rather have Reggie Perry than Woodard. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mike, do you think Bane can overcome his lack of athleticism and wingspan in the NBA? Any past/current players that remind you of his style of play? |
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