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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:01 am    Post subject:

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once again you refuse to read the IFR numbers. .26 as listed here and you can find these numbers on the cdc website https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYo1UAAXsAIFcK-?format=jpg&name=900x900

This was obviously done when they had 96,000 deaths listed (a month ago) but with more infections being reported it has most likely remained on a lower or similar path, These are real numbers. It's exactly the way we rely on data how the influenza or the seasonal flu kills each year reported by the CDC. if you think there are 0 asymptomatic cases in the US for covid then thats your own belief and I can't help you there.

multiple studies have been done on how a majority of the covid positive cases have been asymptomatic and therefore there many more unreported cases that went undetected. That is why CDC is reporting 35% asymptomatic cases throughout the US population in their study.

As for Florida, I cant say but when death rates and hospitalizations start going up, then its time to panic. it also helps that the NBA league will be in a bubble so thats a little assuring.but I do think they will get some cases with other workers coming in and out of that bubble.


Oh. Ok. You're talking factoring in estimates of unconfirmed cases.
I was talking about confirmed cases.

I wouldn't hold on to that 0.26% number either way though. These articles tell you why. Here are excerpts.
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Our ruling: Partly false

But that number lies within a range of estimates. Saying the CDC has "confirmed" that as the death rate paints a misleading picture because the CDC has clearly stated the number is subject to change. For those reasons, we rate this claim PARTLY FALSE.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/05/fact-check-cdc-estimates-covid-19-death-rate-0-26/5269331002/

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Several experts said they project the mortality rate is on the higher-end of the CDC’s estimated range, closer to 1%, which is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.


Quote:

Our ruling

Facebook posts claim the CDC “confirmed a 0.2% death-rate for COVID19.”

In the end, the post wrongly suggests that health officials have established COVID-19’s true mortality rate and selectively picks the low-end of a range of estimates.

We rate the claim Mostly False.

MOSTLY FALSE – The statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/06/16/widely-shared-facebook-posts-mislead-on-covid-19-mortality-rate/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:18 am    Post subject:

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Actually - LAKERS Games

Let me just list the Lakers Games for now

Thursday, July 30 - 9:00 PM ET - TNT

LA Clippers

vs

Los Angeles Lakers


Saturday, August 1st - 8:30 PM ET - ESPN

Los Angeles Lakers

vs

Toronto Raptors
The Arena (WWOS)
Orlando, FL


Monday, August 3rd - 9:00 PM ET - ESPN

Los Angeles Lakers

Utah Jazz

vs

The Arena (WWOS)
Orlando, FL


Thursday, August 6th - 9:00 PM ET - TNT

Los Angeles Lakers

vs
Houston Rockets
The Arena (WWOS)
Orlando, FL


Saturday, August 8th - 6:00 PM ET - ABC

Los Angeles Lakers

vs

Indiana Pacers
HP Field House
Orlando, FL


Monday, August 10th - 9:00 PM ET - TNT

Denver Nuggets

vs

Los Angeles Lakers

The Arena (WWOS)
Orlando, FL


Thursday August 13th - TBD - TBD

Sacramento Kings

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Los Angeles Lakers
ESPN WWOS
Orlando, FL
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:18 am    Post subject:

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Restart Schedule

I just drove up North. I thought sure someone would’ve posted the actual info lol

Per NBA.com

NEW YORK -- The NBA today released its complete game schedule and national television schedules for TNT, ESPN, ABC and NBA TV for the “seeding games,” which will be played July 30 – Aug. 14 to tip off the resumption of the 2019-20 season.

The 22 teams participating in the season restart will play eight seeding games each at ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Walt Disney World Resort in Florida. The team-by-team schedules for the seeding games are now available.

On Thursday, July 30, the season will resume with a TNT doubleheader as the Utah Jazz faces the New Orleans Pelicans (6:30 p.m. ET) and the LA Clippers meet the Los Angeles Lakers (9 p.m. ET).

ESPN will tip off its restart game telecasts with a doubleheader on Friday, July 31 and four games on Saturday, Aug. 1. Friday’s doubleheader will feature the Boston Celtics vs. the Milwaukee Bucks (6:30 p.m. ET) and the Houston Rockets vs. the Dallas Mavericks (9 p.m. ET). Saturday’s schedule on ESPN will begin with a matchup between the Miami Heat and the Denver Nuggets (1 p.m. ET).

ABC will present two games on Sunday, Aug. 2, with the Portland Trail Blazers taking on the Celtics (3:30 p.m. ET) and the Bucks meeting the Rockets (8:30 p.m. ET).

NBA TV will televise seven games during the first week of the season restart, beginning with a matchup between the Memphis Grizzlies and Portland Trail Blazers on July 31 (4 p.m. ET).

NEW YORK -- The NBA today released its complete game schedule and national television schedules for TNT, ESPN, ABC and NBA TV for the “seeding games,” which will be played July 30 – Aug. 14 to tip off the resumption of the 2019-20 season.

The 22 teams participating in the season restart will play eight seeding games each at ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Walt Disney World Resort in Florida. The team-by-team schedules for the seeding games are now available.

On Thursday, July 30, the season will resume with a TNT doubleheader as the Utah Jazz faces the New Orleans Pelicans (6:30 p.m. ET) and the LA Clippers meet the Los Angeles Lakers (9 p.m. ET).

ESPN will tip off its restart game telecasts with a doubleheader on Friday, July 31 and four games on Saturday, Aug. 1. Friday’s doubleheader will feature the Boston Celtics vs. the Milwaukee Bucks (6:30 p.m. ET) and the Houston Rockets vs. the Dallas Mavericks (9 p.m. ET). Saturday’s schedule on ESPN will begin with a matchup between the Miami Heat and the Denver Nuggets (1 p.m. ET).

ABC will present two games on Sunday, Aug. 2, with the Portland Trail Blazers taking on the Celtics (3:30 p.m. ET) and the Bucks meeting the Rockets (8:30 p.m. ET).

NBA TV will televise seven games during the first week of the season restart, beginning with a matchup between the Memphis Grizzlies and Portland Trail Blazers on July 31 (4 p.m. ET).

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/06/26/nba-schedule-release-2019-20-season-comeback-official
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:32 am    Post subject:

Various Other Things I Saw Over The Past Couple of Days

Per Shams

Clippers guard Landry Shamet has tested positive for coronavirus and is unlikely to travel with the team to Orlando this week, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1279461121670463488?s=21


Indiana Pacers star Victor Oladipo has decided to sit out of the resumed NBA season, Oladipo told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1279139650012164096?s=21 (links to an article from The Athletic which is most likely behind a pay wall)

However...

Pacers star Victor Oladipo plans to travel with the team to Orlando despite decision to opt out of NBA resumption, per sources. He is joining the team in Orlando.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1279157239161532416?s=21 (video at link)


Per Woj

NBA teams in Orlando will scrimmage against a team in opposite conference or an unlikely first-round playoff opponent in same conference, league tells teams in a memo.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1279213313105309698?s=21


New Orleans Pelicans associate head coach Jeff Bzdelik, 67, won’t be joining the team in Orlando, his agent Warren LeGarie tells ESPN. The organization is supportive of the decision.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1279158425059045377?s=21

Per Lopez in reply to Woj


No decision has been made yet on the status Pelicans head coach Alvin Gentry, 65, according to sources.

https://twitter.com/_andrew_lopez/status/1279159468241141762?s=21

Per Spears

The @NBA & @NBPA have come to an agreement on the social justice messages that can be used on the back of jerseys during the NBA re-start in Orlando starting July 30, sources told @TheUndefeated. The list of approved messages and more here in @ESPN:

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1279124011885096960?s=21

ESPN Article - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29405787/source-nba-union-agree-list-social-messages-put-jerseys?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Per Bontemps


New ESPN story: Gordon Hayward will leave the bubble, if Boston is still playing, for the birth of his fourth child in September. Story includes details on the procedures in place for a player leaving the bubble for an approved reason:

https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1279101627778109446?s=21

ESPN Article - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29405050/celtics-gordon-hayward-plans-leave-bubble-birth-child?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:13 pm    Post subject:

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once again you refuse to read the IFR numbers. .26 as listed here and you can find these numbers on the cdc website https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYo1UAAXsAIFcK-?format=jpg&name=900x900

This was obviously done when they had 96,000 deaths listed (a month ago) but with more infections being reported it has most likely remained on a lower or similar path, These are real numbers. It's exactly the way we rely on data how the influenza or the seasonal flu kills each year reported by the CDC. if you think there are 0 asymptomatic cases in the US for covid then thats your own belief and I can't help you there.

multiple studies have been done on how a majority of the covid positive cases have been asymptomatic and therefore there many more unreported cases that went undetected. That is why CDC is reporting 35% asymptomatic cases throughout the US population in their study.

As for Florida, I cant say but when death rates and hospitalizations start going up, then its time to panic. it also helps that the NBA league will be in a bubble so thats a little assuring.but I do think they will get some cases with other workers coming in and out of that bubble.


Oh. Ok. You're talking factoring in estimates of unconfirmed cases.
I was talking about confirmed cases.

I wouldn't hold on to that 0.26% number either way though. These articles tell you why. Here are excerpts.
Quote:
Our ruling: Partly false

But that number lies within a range of estimates. Saying the CDC has "confirmed" that as the death rate paints a misleading picture because the CDC has clearly stated the number is subject to change. For those reasons, we rate this claim PARTLY FALSE.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/05/fact-check-cdc-estimates-covid-19-death-rate-0-26/5269331002/

Quote:
Several experts said they project the mortality rate is on the higher-end of the CDC’s estimated range, closer to 1%, which is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.


Quote:

Our ruling

Facebook posts claim the CDC “confirmed a 0.2% death-rate for COVID19.”

In the end, the post wrongly suggests that health officials have established COVID-19’s true mortality rate and selectively picks the low-end of a range of estimates.

We rate the claim Mostly False.

MOSTLY FALSE – The statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/06/16/widely-shared-facebook-posts-mislead-on-covid-19-mortality-rate/


there is no way to know sure but there have been studies done that concluded that a higher percentage of cases are symptomatic and the CDC does the same studies for the flu when they determine the IFR. although they tweak numbers after 2 years when they have a better idea. So there will be some lag for this.

But there are some studies that were done by chance. this link has a few of them.

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-now-know-majority-contract-covid-19-asymptomatic-changes-everything

a couple of examples

Quote:
Pregnant women in labor: A groups of doctors at the New York–Presbyterian Allen Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center tested 215 women delivering babies between March 22 and April 4, 2020. This is a good random sample, because they were not tested based on symptoms. The result: 33 tested positive, and 29 of those were initially asymptomatic. Three of the initial 29 asymptomatic patients eventually developed symptoms of the virus, which would mean that in total, 79% were asymptomatic.

Meatpacking plants: 412 out of 2,367 workers at Triumph Foods plant in St. Joseph, Missouri, tested positive. All of them were asymptomatic, and there have been zero deaths among those workers so far.


by no means am I implying that this is like the flu, its actually much worse but need to keep things in perspective. for example

In 2017-2018 flu (very bad flu year)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden-averted/2017-2018.htm

0-49y: Cases 25,619,008 Deaths 3446

IFR = 0.013

but covid is 385% worse than a really bad flu even for that age group if we conclude that .05 under die with covid under 50. thats about 13,000.

13,000 compared to 3000 is nothing to not worry about but it's not something astronomical like in the hundreds of thousands.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:15 pm    Post subject:

Asking again if we can please not bog this thread down with general COVID19/Coronavirus chat as happened to a previous thread. Would really like to keep this thread on topic of League/Lakers preparation for the presumed restart. Thanks kindly
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:22 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
Asking again if we can please not bog this thread down with general COVID19/Coronavirus chat as happened to a previous thread. Would really like to keep this thread on topic of League/Lakers preparation for the presumed restart. Thanks kindly


For sure. I hear ya.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:25 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
Asking again if we can please not bog this thread down with general COVID19/Coronavirus chat as happened to a previous thread. Would really like to keep this thread on topic of League/Lakers preparation for the presumed restart. Thanks kindly


sorry to derail the thread
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Guys if you want to speak about coronavirus related stuff try the below thread

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=189469&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

A lot of talk there about it and it is sort of made for that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:27 pm    Post subject:

I don't think it's going to happen. Someone will test positive in the bubble, and they can say they have a plan, but there's too many unknowns at that point. The NBA set the standard by being the first to postpone their season, and I think they're going to do it again - Silver will cancel the season.

Hope I'm wrong...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:16 pm    Post subject:

The Lebrons wrote:
I don't think it's going to happen. Someone will test positive in the bubble, and they can say they have a plan, but there's too many unknowns at that point. The NBA set the standard by being the first to postpone their season, and I think they're going to do it again - Silver will cancel the season.

Hope I'm wrong...


kikanga wrote:
Read a theory today that the NBA league owners know things will get shut down due to an outbreak. They know it won't work, but if they get their 7 games in per team the TV contracts stay.


There are some older coaches in the league. I keep thinking about what it would be like if somebody actually died with COVID in the bubble. Will they return next season with a jersey patch thinking, sorry but we had to get that TV money.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:39 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
Asking again if we can please not bog this thread down with general COVID19/Coronavirus chat as happened to a previous thread. Would really like to keep this thread on topic of League/Lakers preparation for the presumed restart. Thanks kindly


Let’s honor TDRock’s request, worked hard to keep us updated in injuries thread during season.

Sorry for responding in here. I know you want it to be about newsfeed/info on restart.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject:

More News That Isn’t An Official Confirmation Regarding Dwight: Bradley Beal

Per Ohm

Wizards coach Scott Brooks says no final decision yet from Bradley Beal on whether he will be going with the team to Orlando. Brooks adds that Beal looks great

https://twitter.com/notoriousohm/status/1280171134537699330?s=21

Wizards coach Scott Brooks says Bradley Beal is expected to travel with the team to Orlando tomorrow but stresses that everyone is getting tested first. Brooks said Wizards players in Orlando will work out while there and those who play will be determined later.

https://twitter.com/notoriousohm/status/1280172656910712833?s=21
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:59 am    Post subject:

More News That Isn’t An Official Confirmation Regarding Dwight: Bucks

Per Woj

The Milwaukee Bucks have shut down the team’s practice facility after receiving results of a Friday round of coronavirus testing, sources tell ESPN. The team isn’t expected to reopen facility for workouts prior to the organization's traveling party leaving for Orlando Thursday.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1279906340043993089?s=21

ESPN Article - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29415459/sources-bucks-shut-practice-facility-receiving-results-recent-coronavirus-testing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:47 pm    Post subject:

Dwight Finally Confims Play

Per Shams

Lakers center Dwight Howard told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium today he has decided to play in restarted NBA season, join the team on Thursday in Orlando, and will donate his remaining game checks to his non-profit campaign Breathe Again.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1280334852341055488?s=21

Per CNN Tonight (video interview at link)

Los Angeles Lakers center Dwight Howard tells CNN's @DonLemon that he will be playing when the NBA resumes its regular season.

"Yes, I will be joining my team in Orlando," he says.

https://twitter.com/cnntonight/status/1280347554505469952?s=21
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:35 pm    Post subject:

playoff lineups....

small ball I suggest

AD, LB, DG, JR, KCP
all defense... and u got 3 snipers... and AD and LB can shoot 3s as well... wow!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject:

Yes!!! Welcome back D12.

So we can bring 15 players to the O Bubble, 13 active.

Active:
1) LeBron
2) AD
3) Kuzma
4) Green
5) KCP
6) McGee
7) Caruso
8) Howard
9) Rondo
10) Morris
11) Smith
12) Waiters
13) Dudley

2 spots for break glass in case of emergency:
Cook
Cacock
THT
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:53 am    Post subject:

Dwight Apparently Not Taking Salary During Restart

Per Shams (full statement at link)

Lakers center Dwight Howard tells @TheAthletic @Stadium: “My NBA salary and platform, while in the bubble, will be used to ignite a breath of fresh air into the community.” Full statement:

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1280351504541589504?s=21
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:33 am    Post subject:

MrBigPimpin wrote:
playoff lineups....

small ball I suggest

AD, LB, DG, JR, KCP
all defense... and u got 3 snipers... and AD and LB can shoot 3s as well... wow!


JR? Really? If he plays more than 10 mpg we will be in trouble.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:22 pm    Post subject:

The Nets Are Hating It Right Now

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Brooklyn Nets forward Taurean Prince has tested positive for the coronavirus and will sit out the NBA’s restart in Orlando, sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1280633979629076485?s=21

Prince is the fourth Nets player – including DeAndre Jordan, Spencer Dinwiddie and Wilson Chandler – to opt-out of the league’s restart. Nets are eligible to sign four substitute players. Team departed this evening for Orlando.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1280634689158623232?s=21

Prince was 'declared out' of Orlando because the late-timing of his positive test put his build-up back to basketball in jeopardy; in his case, it is not an 'opt out.'

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1280639537950195717?s=21
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject:

Nuggets Are Too

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Nuggets GM Calvin Booth says about 3/4 of Nuggets travel party is in Orlando. Booth says the rest will trickle in once negative results come. He says Nikola Jokic is currently not "en route" but Nuggets are working on the logistics and Jokic is feeling good about his situation.

https://twitter.com/notoriousohm/status/1280897371228958720?s=21
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject:

LonzoLegend2 wrote:
Yes!!! Welcome back D12.

So we can bring 15 players to the O Bubble, 13 active.

Active:
1) LeBron
2) AD
3) Kuzma
4) Green
5) KCP
6) McGee
7) Caruso
8) Howard
9) Rondo
10) Morris
11) Smith
12) Waiters
13) Dudley

2 spots for break glass in case of emergency:
Cook
Cacock
THT
Little Greek


Just cause I love putting line ups together:

Green / Caruso / Waiters
KCP / Rondo / Cook
Lebron / Kuzma / Smith
Davis / Morris / Dudley
McGee / Howard
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:25 pm    Post subject:

Supporting My Theory That the League Doesn’t Want to Disqualify Head Coaches

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New Orleans coach Alvin Gentry has been cleared to travel with the Pelicans to the Orlando bubble, sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1280895401168719872?s=21

Gentry, 65, has been one of the league staff members undergoing further scrutiny before heading into bubble. Houston coach Mike D'Antoni, 69, is among those still awaiting word, although there's optimism that he'll be cleared too. Rockets leave for Orlando tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1280896914590961667?s=21
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject:

MrBigPimpin wrote:
playoff lineups....

small ball I suggest

AD, LB, DG, JR, KCP
all defense... and u got 3 snipers... and AD and LB can shoot 3s as well... wow!


How is JR Smith on defense?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:48 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
MrBigPimpin wrote:
playoff lineups....

small ball I suggest

AD, LB, DG, JR, KCP
all defense... and u got 3 snipers... and AD and LB can shoot 3s as well... wow!


JR? Really? If he plays more than 10 mpg we will be in trouble.



I feel he's a backup in case of injury or sickness; just my O. He'll probably get some burn in the warmup games though.
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