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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:42 pm    Post subject:

OKC is a pathetic 4-19 from 3 . . . and we are worse, at 4-26. Good grief.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:58 pm    Post subject:

You cannot sign career 40% shooters and 30% from three and expect them to stay hot all year. The law of averages will always catch up.

We got rid of Svi... we got rid of Daniels.

I hope Vogel knows what he's doing because I don't get it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject:

25% from the 3 in the bubble
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:23 pm    Post subject:

don't know who it is but 1 of d green/KCP needs to be on the bench.

Kuzma needs to start. he is playing good defense. that helps too
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:23 pm    Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:
You cannot sign career 40% shooters and 30% from three and expect them to stay hot all year. The law of averages will always catch up.

We got rid of Svi... we got rid of Daniels.

I hope Vogel knows what he's doing because I don't get it.


Svi I agree but Daniels was and is trash
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:33 pm    Post subject:

Lebron-Davis-Mcgee are killing the spacing. We would be so much better with Davis at C. There would be more ball movement and the paint all for Davis and Bron.


Caruso / Waiters
KCP / JR
LeBron / Green
Kuzma / Morris
Davis / Dwight

Play your best player and open up the floor.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
BILBJH wrote:
You cannot sign career 40% shooters and 30% from three and expect them to stay hot all year. The law of averages will always catch up.

We got rid of Svi... we got rid of Daniels.

I hope Vogel knows what he's doing because I don't get it.


Svi I agree but Daniels was and is trash


He was very limited... but all they need is for him to shoot.
They never let him get in a rhythm.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject:

scout0_0 wrote:
Lebron-Davis-Mcgee are killing the spacing. We would be so much better with Davis at C. There would be more ball movement and the paint all for Davis and Bron.


Caruso / Waiters
KCP / JR
LeBron / Green
Kuzma / Morris
Davis / Dwight

Play your best player and open up the floor.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:05 pm    Post subject:

FG: 35%. 3pt: 13.5%. (37 attempts?) FT: 65.5%

Lakers need to get over what is bothering them in the bubble because this is pathetic. Especially odd because most teams are are looking energized and in synch.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:06 pm    Post subject:

Laker 3pt % since the restart:

Kuzma- 50%
Davis- 36%
James- 27%
Caldwell-Pope- 23%
Green- 20%
Waiters- 16%
Caruso- 11%
Smith- 0%
Morris- 0%
Dudley- 0%
Cook- 0%

Playoffs in 12 days.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:10 pm    Post subject:

to do this bad, you should really suck at shooting when LBJ and AD draw so much attention.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:25 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
to do this bad, you should really suck at shooting when LBJ and AD draw so much attention.


That’s what drives me nuts. Our shooters aren’t even being contested most of the time. Defenses just worry about AD or Bron as soon as they’re inside the 3 point line
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:38 pm    Post subject:

With all the shooters in this league, you would think we could have gotten at least one for fifteen million.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject:

scout0_0 wrote:
Lebron-Davis-Mcgee are killing the spacing. We would be so much better with Davis at C. There would be more ball movement and the paint all for Davis and Bron.


Caruso / Waiters
KCP / JR
LeBron / Green
Kuzma / Morris
Davis / Dwight

Play your best player and open up the floor.


McGee I agree with as far as spacing goes.... the problem with lebron and Ad is there hesitant to shoot. They take there time with the ball in there hands. Which is both good and bad....

In playoffs when defense tighten up its good to have those skills. But we need one of them to also be able to take a quick catch and shoot with hesitating...

McGee doesn't make sense next to Davis in the starting lineup in most cases....

And actually if we end up playing a team like Denver I believe its better to start Dwight to put on Jokic....

If we matchup against Portland for example Dwight is a better fit to guard Nurkic then McGee...

If we play Phoenix for example...Really Davis should guard Ayton and we should put Kuzma at the 4 to start...

Also, wouldn't hesitate to try JR smith in the starting lineup instead of KCP who hasn't been great in the bubble and seems to have lost a bit of confidence that he had gained.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:04 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
With all the shooters in this league, you would think we could have gotten at least one for fifteen million.


Not when we were waiting for ahole kawhi
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:00 am    Post subject:

I guess the only option, for now, is to keep shooting and hope they start falling.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:32 am    Post subject:

I’d feel a lot better if we could get our shooting to at least league average...is that too much to ask? Smh
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:39 am    Post subject:

Brawn13 wrote:
I’d feel a lot better if we could get our shooting to at least league average...is that too much to ask? Smh


What kills me is we don’t have one automatic guy. Many teams have at least one guy.

Danny Green was supposed to be that guy, but hasn’t been.

KCP played like for most of the regular season, but he’s not known as a can’t leave him open knock down threat.

It seems like the only time we really shoot well is if LBJ or AD get hot from 3. AB I think got hot in 2 games @Sac and @Clippers.

We don’t have consistent shooters on this team. KCP was the only one who really sustained it all year.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:59 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
With all the shooters in this league, you would think we could have gotten at least one for fifteen million.
Green was #2 in three point percentage last season! But, what we need is a high volume and high percentage three point shooer. Somebody that makes atleaast 3 per game. A real threat.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:16 am    Post subject:

scoobs wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
With all the shooters in this league, you would think we could have gotten at least one for fifteen million.
Green was #2 in three point percentage last season! But, what we need is a high volume and high percentage three point shooer. Somebody that makes atleaast 3 per game. A real threat.


And is no longer.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject:

If only we could've had players who can shoot 3's this season like:

- Thomas Bryant (42%)

- Brandon Ingram (39%)

- Lonzo Ball (38%)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:55 am    Post subject:

Jordan-esque wrote:
If only we could've had players who can shoot 3's this season like:

- Thomas Bryant (42%)

- Brandon Ingram (39%)

- Lonzo Ball (38%)


*insert sponebob chicken meme *
How did we loose Bryant? Did we just let him walk in free agency? He showed potential as a rare shot blocking stretch 5 and now he is doing it. As far as Zo and BI go, they had to be traded in order for us to get AD. And even then, they were not good three point shooters, so who would of thunk that they would improve the way they did? But to get a star like AD, they simply had to go in the deal. You have to give up something to get something. Then we had a window to get more free agents, but we were waiting on Kahwii. Then, we were fortunate to get Green. Ideally though, we could of tried to get a great shooter for Kuzma and other pieces, while Kuzma's value was still up. If we would of been proactive, we could of tried to get somebody like Bogdan, Harris or Kennard when there value was down. Or trade for a draft pick and get a young sniper like Hero or Robinson.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:54 am    Post subject:

I think there is a difference between drive and kick spot up threes and ball movement threes. We need to get more of the latter, get a real offensive system that is not solely reliant on Lebron or AD to create something. Get them easier baskets and get the shooters in a better rhythm.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:47 am    Post subject:

BandwagonLBJhopper wrote:
I think there is a difference between drive and kick spot up threes and ball movement threes. We need to get more of the latter, get a real offensive system that is not solely reliant on Lebron or AD to create something. Get them easier baskets and get the shooters in a better rhythm.


But that is not the system they run. James is an iso player. He controls the ball and tempo and drives and finds the open shooter. He has spent his entire career doing so. It is not going to change now in his final couple seasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:33 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
BandwagonLBJhopper wrote:
I think there is a difference between drive and kick spot up threes and ball movement threes. We need to get more of the latter, get a real offensive system that is not solely reliant on Lebron or AD to create something. Get them easier baskets and get the shooters in a better rhythm.


But that is not the system they run. James is an iso player. He controls the ball and tempo and drives and finds the open shooter. He has spent his entire career doing so. It is not going to change now in his final couple seasons.


I don’t think it’s a system issue - it seems to me much more a confidence issue. When the ball is kicked to you by Bron - step up in rhythm and catch and shoot or if the defender is closing - make the extra pass. Right now they are hesitating far too much, making wrong reads and not cutting. I think these can all be remedied by tape, practice time and strong leadership by Bron and AD encouraging these guys. We can correct these issues.
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