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Pureshot77 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Nice touch pass by DS. Kuzma running it out even though Lebron had a clean break away deserves some love too |
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quartzcharm Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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What is up with Schroeder?
0-4 in the 1st half, can't make a free throw, turn the ball over 5 times.
And this guy wants $20 mil/year? WTF? |
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mintberrycrunch Rookie
Joined: 19 Aug 2020 Posts: 14
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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quartzcharm wrote: | What is up with Schroeder?
0-4 in the 1st half, can't make a free throw, turn the ball over 5 times.
And this guy wants $20 mil/year? WTF? |
He's playing like garbage. I would look into trading him before the deadline. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Posts: 16656
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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mintberrycrunch wrote: | quartzcharm wrote: | What is up with Schroeder?
0-4 in the 1st half, can't make a free throw, turn the ball over 5 times.
And this guy wants $20 mil/year? WTF? |
He's playing like garbage. I would look into trading him before the deadline. |
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roger_federer Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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quartzcharm wrote: | What is up with Schroeder?
0-4 in the 1st half, can't make a free throw, turn the ball over 5 times.
And this guy wants $20 mil/year? WTF? |
And starter role |
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mintberrycrunch Rookie
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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roger_federer wrote: | quartzcharm wrote: | What is up with Schroeder?
0-4 in the 1st half, can't make a free throw, turn the ball over 5 times.
And this guy wants $20 mil/year? WTF? |
And starter role |
I definitely would not pay that much for him |
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waterman40 Star Player
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 6280 Location: Central Coast
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:07 am Post subject: |
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He is not playing like its his contract year. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Nov 2016 Posts: 23731
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:04 am Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | He is not playing like its his contract year. |
It’s reminding me of Kuz in that he is pressing.
Imo he will be fine, we really need him. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Posts: 16656
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:27 am Post subject: |
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We win more than we lose when he is our second star |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Folks not thinking this one through.
Trezz likely gone next year. So we will have to replace his production with the taxpayer MLE (which is about half of the full MLE).
And for saying to not re-sign Dennis, ok. How are you going to replace him? With the vet's minimum?
I don't think THT is ready and AC is better as a bench defensive sparkplug.
There is a reason why the Lakers went after Dennis. They will try to keep him lest they lose him and now you have to replace Trez and Dennis with just the taxpayer MLE. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016 Posts: 46492
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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So let me make this clear if the extension decision drags out until March 25 do the Lakers basically put DS in trade discussions and get something for him instead of letting him walk in FA? I don’t know why it’s taking so long to come to a agreement, I don’t even think we will get equal value in a trade because all it took was Green and a 28th pick to acquire Schroeder. |
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PlantedTanks Star Player
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Schroder's play has been inconsistent this year. I believe Vogel needs to adjust his role on the team to help solve this problem.
His best year (2019) essentially saw him have a reduced role as a PG having to share court time with ball dominant Chris Paul and SGA. Having the ability to primarily concentrate on scoring would hopefully improve his efficiency, keep him fresh to sustain his defensive effort throughout the year and to be a secondary distributor but not necessarily a primary creator for others.
This offense would still work having 2 combo G's sharing the backcourt.
Less play making responsibility would help minimize one of his problems as a distributor - turnovers. He makes ill advised passes and tends to dribble into the teeth of the defense where his lack of height hinders him. Both were on display last night.
His best attributes offensively is his ability to attack the paint and draw fouls which he backs up with high ft%. I feel having the ability to work off the ball and have better spacing for his forays to the hoop will lead to less contested shots and better efficiency. Another byproduct may be an improvement in his 3pt shooting. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:58 am Post subject: |
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I believe the smart asset management move is to either extend him at 3 years 45-50M. Or move him via trade. As Yinoma pointed out, there is no way you wanna leave this to FA, as you may lose both Trez and Dennis and only have the FA MLEs after.
There are some big names available, and I am not sure the Lakers are thinking a big move, but if they do not get a deal done with Dennis, I am sure they have to consider a move for bringing in a longterm asset.
That said, I think their primary goal will remain to re-sign Dennis into that longterm asset. But 80M over 4, is just too much for a player of his caliber, I hope something gets done in between that 80M figure and a MLE amount. He is definitely a worthwhile investment, flaws and all. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:05 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | I believe the smart asset management move is to either extend him at 3 years 45-50M. Or move him via trade. As Yinoma pointed out, there is no way you wanna leave this to FA, as you may lose both Trez and Dennis and only have the FA MLEs after.
There are some big names available, and I am not sure the Lakers are thinking a big move, but if they do not get a deal done with Dennis, I am sure they have to consider a move for bringing in a longterm asset.
That said, I think their primary goal will remain to re-sign Dennis into that longterm asset. But 80M over 4, is just too much for a player of his caliber, I hope something gets done in between that 80M figure and a MLE amount. He is definitely a worthwhile investment, flaws and all. |
He is getting paid 15.5m now so that has to be the minimum he’s seeking. It’s worse. It’s the non full MLE we would have to replace Trezz AND Dennis. We would be much worse next year. And we would also have AC/THT being more expensive too. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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So does DS know something we don't? It seems that he just coughed up almost $4.3 million for a new SoCali home in Tarzana. |
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miggz23 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/lakers/status/1371202931609858048?s=21
That’s a lot of luggage for a 1 day business trip, Dennis |
Getting traded after tonight's game? |
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activeverb Retired Number
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 37470
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | I believe the smart asset management move is to either extend him at 3 years 45-50M. Or move him via trade. As Yinoma pointed out, there is no way you wanna leave this to FA, as you may lose both Trez and Dennis and only have the FA MLEs after.
There are some big names available, and I am not sure the Lakers are thinking a big move, but if they do not get a deal done with Dennis, I am sure they have to consider a move for bringing in a longterm asset.
That said, I think their primary goal will remain to re-sign Dennis into that longterm asset. But 80M over 4, is just too much for a player of his caliber, I hope something gets done in between that 80M figure and a MLE amount. He is definitely a worthwhile investment, flaws and all. |
His last contract was 4 years, $70 million. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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joeblow wrote: | So does DS know something we don't? It seems that he just coughed up almost $4.3 million for a new SoCali home in Tarzana. |
Sadly, that's no indicator. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Reds622 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers aren’t sold that he can be a difference maker on a championship team (which is what his salary would dictate that he must be).
If they did, he would be signed by now.
I think the Lakers should package him in a trade before it’s too late.. but I’m sure I’m in the minority on that on this message board.. many seem to be infatuated for some reason. Is he better than a prime Derek Fisher? I think the answer is obviously not.
I wouldn’t pay close to 20 million dollars for an undersized slasher who doesn’t make good decisions and has a somewhat odd shooting stroke. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Reds622 wrote: | Lakers aren’t sold that he can be a difference maker on a championship team (which is what his salary would dictate that he must be).
If they did, he would be signed by now.
I think the Lakers should package him in a trade before it’s too late.. but I’m sure I’m in the minority on that on this message board.. many seem to be infatuated for some reason. Is he better than a prime Derek Fisher? I think the answer is obviously not.
I wouldn’t pay close to 20 million dollars for an undersized slasher who doesn’t make good decisions and has a somewhat odd shooting stroke. |
with just him and lebron we have won games. with all 3 we dominated. |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:21 am Post subject: |
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aight DS, I'm liking the play but need to start dropping 15+ consistently, gotta be our Kyrie-lite on offense |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Reds622 wrote: | Lakers aren’t sold that he can be a difference maker on a championship team (which is what his salary would dictate that he must be).
If they did, he would be signed by now.
I think the Lakers should package him in a trade before it’s too late.. but I’m sure I’m in the minority on that on this message board.. many seem to be infatuated for some reason. Is he better than a prime Derek Fisher? I think the answer is obviously not.
I wouldn’t pay close to 20 million dollars for an undersized slasher who doesn’t make good decisions and has a somewhat odd shooting stroke. |
So according to you, he's not that good. But we should just package him for a more meaningful player? If he's as bad as you say he is, we wouldn't get a good player back in return. So which is it?
Remember, the Lakers, basically sight unseen, offered him the 2 year extension which he rejected b/c he wants 4 years. If anything, the Lakers realize they need to extend him or find themselves having to replace Trezz AND Dennis for a measly 4.5-5m taxpayer MLE.
No one is saying he's worth a 30m max. But he is a contributor to the team. How did we fare when he was out recently (0-4)? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | The Lakers are now 9-7 in the 16 games that Anthony Davis has missed,
but they are 9-2 when Davis sits but LeBron James and Dennis Schroder play. Sam Quinn - NBC-Sports |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:08 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Quote: | The Lakers are now 9-7 in the 16 games that Anthony Davis has missed,
but they are 9-2 when Davis sits but LeBron James and Dennis Schroder play. Sam Quinn - NBC-Sports |
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Obviously, AD/LBJ are main focus of the team. But this shows how much Dennis positively impacts the team as well. Don't look at just the aggregate stats. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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