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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Any thoughts on a DS sign and trade with the Nuggets for Aaron Gordon? The Nuggets need a PG while Murray recovers from his ACL, but they don’t need their PG to be a playmaker since they have the Joker. Aaron Gordon doesn’t solve our shooting problems, but he ensures that we get something of value for Dennis.
I was also thinking about a sign and trade with Minnesota for Ricky Rubio. Rubio could come off the bench to be our secondary playmaker and fill the Rondo role from last year. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:59 am Post subject: |
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SOLakerFan wrote: | Any thoughts on a DS sign and trade with the Nuggets for Aaron Gordon? The Nuggets need a PG while Murray recovers from his ACL, but they don’t need their PG to be a playmaker since they have the Joker. Aaron Gordon doesn’t solve our shooting problems, but he ensures that we get something of value for Dennis.
I was also thinking about a sign and trade with Minnesota for Ricky Rubio. Rubio could come off the bench to be our secondary playmaker and fill the Rondo role from last year. |
Any team S&Ting for Dennis needs to ask if they are willing to be hard capped to get him at his reported price. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Aaron Gordon choked big time this playoffs.
He also seems to be losing some of his athleticism although I only watched him this series so I'm not sure.'
But that also might make him acquirable |
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:23 am Post subject: |
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SOLakerFan wrote: | Any thoughts on a DS sign and trade with the Nuggets for Aaron Gordon? The Nuggets need a PG while Murray recovers from his ACL, but they don’t need their PG to be a playmaker since they have the Joker. Aaron Gordon doesn’t solve our shooting problems, but he ensures that we get something of value for Dennis.
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If you have no desire to keep DS at all and just want to dump DS for anything then sure. Otherwise, I think DS will be more useful to us than Gordon |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: |
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BILBJH wrote: | Aaron Gordon choked big time this playoffs.
He also seems to be losing some of his athleticism although I only watched him this series so I'm not sure.'
But that also might make him acquirable |
Denver probably feeling so sad that Jerami Grant didn't wanna re-sign _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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LGFan Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:26 am Post subject: |
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BILBJH wrote: | Aaron Gordon choked big time this playoffs.
He also seems to be losing some of his athleticism although I only watched him this series so I'm not sure.'
But that also might make him acquirable |
so denver is going to trade a defensive wing to the team that knocked them off and will be their primary competition next few years? |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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LGFan wrote: |
so denver is going to trade a defensive wing to the team that knocked them off and will be their primary competition next few years? |
Denver is going to need a point guard since Murray will be out most of next year. And I think DS actually fits with both Murray and Jokic. So I think he may be a better fit than Aaron Gordon. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Magic is certainly not a fan of how this guy operates |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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SOLakerFan wrote: |
Denver is going to need a point guard since Murray will be out most of next year. And I think DS actually fits with both Murray and Jokic. So I think he may be a better fit than Aaron Gordon. |
Denver just gave their backup point guard, Monte Morris, a 3-year, $27 million extension. I suspect they will just run with him until Murray gets back. I don't see them giving DS $18 million plus to be a stopgap. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | SOLakerFan wrote: |
Denver is going to need a point guard since Murray will be out most of next year. And I think DS actually fits with both Murray and Jokic. So I think he may be a better fit than Aaron Gordon. |
Denver just gave their backup point guard, Monte Morris, a 3-year, $27 million extension. I suspect they will just run with him until Murray gets back. I don't see them giving DS $18 million plus to be a stopgap. |
They also have Campazzo and could decide to bring back Austin Rivers. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Do you guys see a market for him?
Besides the Knicks, how many teams need a PG at the price he's looking for?
Toronto if Kyle leaves?
Lakers?
Pelicans?
I might be missing a team, but all other teams have a quality lead guard. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Gordan is a scrub who can dunk. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:28 am Post subject: |
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LakersMD wrote: | ^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
Re-sign Schroeder, hope Harrell picks up the Player Option. Sign Dragic in the off-season to play Backup Point Guard. Let Caruso walk. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:13 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | ^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
Re-sign Schroeder, hope Harrell picks up the Player Option. Sign Dragic in the off-season to play Backup Point Guard. Let Caruso walk. |
Caruso is one of the team's best perimeter defenders. Unless he is severely overpaid by a team, the Lakers should be prioritizing re-signing him at 5-7M a year short term (2-3 year) deal. Unlike Dennis, he is a natural fit, and has immense chemistry with Lebron. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:23 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | MJST wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | ^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
Re-sign Schroeder, hope Harrell picks up the Player Option. Sign Dragic in the off-season to play Backup Point Guard. Let Caruso walk. |
Caruso is one of the team's best perimeter defenders. Unless he is severely overpaid by a team, the Lakers should be prioritizing re-signing him at 5-7M a year short term (2-3 year) deal. Unlike Dennis, he is a natural fit, and has immense chemistry with Lebron. |
I would love AC if it's 5-7m a year. I fear a team like Dallas, with all the tumult there, may look to poach a Texas kid (and they have a lot of cap space that they could theoretically have). I could see them offering him something like 10-12m/year. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:28 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | MJST wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | ^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
Re-sign Schroeder, hope Harrell picks up the Player Option. Sign Dragic in the off-season to play Backup Point Guard. Let Caruso walk. |
Caruso is one of the team's best perimeter defenders. Unless he is severely overpaid by a team, the Lakers should be prioritizing re-signing him at 5-7M a year short term (2-3 year) deal. Unlike Dennis, he is a natural fit, and has immense chemistry with Lebron. |
I would love AC if it's 5-7m a year. I fear a team like Dallas, with all the tumult there, may look to poach a Texas kid (and they have a lot of cap space that they could theoretically have). I could see them offering him something like 10-12m/year. |
hypothetically, resign AC & THT, how much do we have to offer Dragic? miniMLE? |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:29 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | MJST wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | ^ Miami will likely let Dragic walk and are interested in Lowry so could make an offer to Shroeder if they lose out on Lowry.
Bulls if they lose out on Lonzo. |
Re-sign Schroeder, hope Harrell picks up the Player Option. Sign Dragic in the off-season to play Backup Point Guard. Let Caruso walk. |
Caruso is one of the team's best perimeter defenders. Unless he is severely overpaid by a team, the Lakers should be prioritizing re-signing him at 5-7M a year short term (2-3 year) deal. Unlike Dennis, he is a natural fit, and has immense chemistry with Lebron. |
I would love AC if it's 5-7m a year. I fear a team like Dallas, with all the tumult there, may look to poach a Texas kid (and they have a lot of cap space that they could theoretically have). I could see them offering him something like 10-12m/year. |
hypothetically, resign AC & THT, how much do we have to offer Dragic? miniMLE? |
That is all we would have, yes. I don't think people realize how difficult it is to re-stock a team with basically the mini-MLE and vet min deals. Trezz was the full MLE at over 9m, and even Wes made over the vet min last year (BAE). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:04 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | SOLakerFan wrote: |
Denver is going to need a point guard since Murray will be out most of next year. And I think DS actually fits with both Murray and Jokic. So I think he may be a better fit than Aaron Gordon. |
Denver just gave their backup point guard, Monte Morris, a 3-year, $27 million extension. I suspect they will just run with him until Murray gets back. I don't see them giving DS $18 million plus to be a stopgap. |
this looks like AC's comp which means THT prob closer to MLE... DS or minMLE |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I find it hilarious that you see these guys like Cameron Payne, Reggie Jackson, Trey Burks, etc. All vet min or MLE type guys, play 5x better than and contribute to their team more than Schroder, yet the reaction here is “how can we replace him with only an MLE?”. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | I find it hilarious that you see these guys like Cameron Payne, Reggie Jackson, Trey Burks, etc. All vet min or MLE type guys, play 5x better than and contribute to their team more than Schroder, yet the reaction here is “how can we replace him with only an MLE?”. |
Can not get fortunate every year.
Last year, Dwight and Rondo were vet min guys. Dwight was huge in stopping Denver from being a bigger threat. Rondo was huge in series 2-4. Especially later on in series.
We missed both, and we missed Dannys man defense and size. Danny was a pretty inconsistent shooter for us as well, but at least he was good for some wing defense and size.
We really need to get back to what got us a ring, and then get even better support than we had in 19-20. Which I know is easy to say and write, but much harder to actually pull off. I like the first move we made, and that is to revamp our medical and health department. Whomever is working with AD and the crew needs to get them in better shape and strength.
Next, we need as many bigger versatile defenders that can shoot 3s. I can not say that enough, versatile defenders. Dennis is a good defender in some situations, but the playoffs exposed also how easy it was for teams to pick him off on bigger players. He can not stop players the way a bigger wing can.
We have a great foundation with AD and Bron. It should not be as hard as some are making it out to be. We have some assets - THT, Kuz, Trez (If he opts in as a trade asset). This year pick. We can make some moves. I am not of the opinion we are stuck, with the roster we have. We can and should make a lot of changes. Get bigger in the backcourt. Get better floor spacing from our 5s. Get AD to strengthen up and play the 5 every game in closing situations. Look for that bench PG that can run an offense for 6 minutes a half. Not earth shattering moves. Just solid moves that fill roles on the team.
We may get fortunate even in that THT may make some development and become a reliable 12-14 points a night shot creator for us, off the bench. This makes Kuzma much much more easy to move. I still have a hard time seeing teams being able to beat AD-Bron and good 2-way guys around them that can shoot 3s. I mean, 70% Bron and 90% AD were up 2-1 with a cast of misfits like Andre, Dennis, Trez etc. Imagine 90% AD and 90% Bron with some quality fits around them .... We are still a major threat next year, IMO. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | I find it hilarious that you see these guys like Cameron Payne, Reggie Jackson, Trey Burks, etc. All vet min or MLE type guys, play 5x better than and contribute to their team more than Schroder, yet the reaction here is “how can we replace him with only an MLE?”. |
For every one of those you have 15 Quinn Cook/Dudleys. Can’t go 100% on min. deals. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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So supposedly he rejected a four-year, $84 million extension, which I believe when calculating the raises, it starts off less than $20M, or close to it? No details on the options. But perhaps the Lakers lucked out that he declined it. It will be interesting to see how much he gets this summer for sure. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Megaton wrote: | I find it hilarious that you see these guys like Cameron Payne, Reggie Jackson, Trey Burks, etc. All vet min or MLE type guys, play 5x better than and contribute to their team more than Schroder, yet the reaction here is “how can we replace him with only an MLE?”. |
For every one of those you have 15 Quinn Cook/Dudleys. Can’t go 100% on min. deals. |
you really expected them to contribute to anything on the bb court?
Cook was signed cause he is AD's BFF
Dudley was signed more for vet presence.
I for one never expected them to contribute to anything on the bb court |
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