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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:18 pm Post subject:
quartzcharm wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
quartzcharm wrote:
Maybe...but I honestly don't see that being a factor.
Does LBJ want to keep Harrell and KCP, or does he want to increase his chances of winning another title?
Mamba Mentality wrote:
quartzcharm wrote:
I'm not following...how does he have veto powers?
He doesn't have a no-trade clause, so what's to stop us from dealing him if he's likely going to opt out at years end anyway?
lurklurk wrote:
quartzcharm wrote:
I love Trez as much as anyone, but let's look at this realistically:
-Our starting center (for now), Gasol, will be returning shortly.
-AD will be back soon and will play minutes at Center.
-Morris will get some time at center.
-If we add Drummond, that's even less of a factor that Trez will be come playoff time.
Considering Trez can walk at the end of the year and we could lose him for nothing, why not get something for him (like some guard help) if we can?
And it doesnt hurt that we’re getting interests for trez from hornets. But like what was said on the other thread, trez basically has veto powers this year. We are definitely in a tricky spot with him
It's the Klutch factor.
Depends on what Rich Paul wants too. He's not in the business for LeBron to win chips. He also has clients he needs to take care of. Getting KCP the year before LeBron signed was very calculated.
Again, I don't see how it matters if one of his clients gets traded. Whomever it is, the client has his contract. It's guaranteed.
What does it have to do with the Lakers trading someone like Harrell? The Lakers are not allowed to trade him because Rich Paul is his agent...even if it means we could improve the team? It doesn't make sense to me.
He has an opt out clause after this year and will likely exercise it to get more money. So no real point in trading for him since he’ll be gone after the end of this year. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
man, Rob is in a pickle. i'm sure Trez signed her on the cheap to prove his worth to the league. well, that and he really wanted to be a laker.
if Rob trades him on his "buddy deal"... what does that mean for Trez's value?
and he's acting very cryptic on twitter (which may or not have anything to do with basketball). it sounds like he's saying "no one will give me a clear answer". perhaps around "are you going to trade me?".
someone needs to ask him straight up "Montrez, are you going to resign for all we can offer, which is 20% above MLE?" if you can't answer that, then we can not give you an answer on trading you."
man, Rob is in a pickle. i'm sure Trez signed her on the cheap to prove his worth to the league. well, that and he really wanted to be a laker.
if Rob trades him on his "buddy deal"... what does that mean for Trez's value?
and he's acting very cryptic on twitter (which may or not have anything to do with basketball). it sounds like he's saying "no one will give me a clear answer". perhaps around "are you going to trade me?".
someone needs to ask him straight up "Montrez, are you going to resign for all we can offer, which is 20% above MLE?" if you can't answer that, then we can not give you an answer on trading you."
Rob's not in a pickle at all. He'll trade anyone on the roster if it's in the interest of the team to do so, just as players will do what's in their own self-interest. That's life in the NBA.
He was 6th man of the year and what did that do for the Clippers? I'm slowly beginning to think we're the suckers here for signing him.
Do you want Trez to score 2 points and our team allow 2 points on the other end or do you want Lebron/AD/DS to score and we don't allow any point on the other end? Just saying. _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend!
My issue with the Trezz signing was that Rob knew they were going to extend LBJ/AD/Kuz/KCP.
So the future was looking like an over cap team, yet he signed Trezz with our last full MLE knowing that Trezz would likely be a 1 year rental, and then we would only have the mini MLE thereafter.
It might have been better to get a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer term deal. Now, we will be in a major hole if both Dennis/Trezz leave us, and we only have the mini MLE of 5m+ to fill those two holes. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
And then after conceding the basket, he looks at his teammates as if they missed the assignment.
To be fair to him the 4x he looked at tht in that third tht did f up the assignment. He literally switched wrong, didn’t rotate, at one point ran straight into Trez. The run didn’t come in the 4th to Tucker was benched because they had no one to put in any off ball action.
Suns exploited him too off the ball as their announcers pointed out on nba tv their plan was put tht in off ball action where he gets lost and make Wes shoot because he’s been shooting bad all year, and they did that
My issue with the Trezz signing was that Rob knew they were going to extend LBJ/AD/Kuz/KCP.
So the future was looking like an over cap team, yet he signed Trezz with our last full MLE knowing that Trezz would likely be a 1 year rental, and then we would only have the mini MLE thereafter.
It might have been better to get a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer term deal. Now, we will be in a major hole if both Dennis/Trezz leave us, and we only have the mini MLE of 5m+ to fill those two holes.
What lesser name? That was the going rate and deal out there. Tristen Thompson and Ibaka got the same deal with the same option. That’s probably what Drummond has to look at too this summer.
My issue with the Trezz signing was that Rob knew they were going to extend LBJ/AD/Kuz/KCP.
So the future was looking like an over cap team, yet he signed Trezz with our last full MLE knowing that Trezz would likely be a 1 year rental, and then we would only have the mini MLE thereafter.
It might have been better to get a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer term deal. Now, we will be in a major hole if both Dennis/Trezz leave us, and we only have the mini MLE of 5m+ to fill those two holes.
What lesser name? That was the going rate and deal out there. Tristen Thompson and Ibaka got the same deal with the same option. That’s probably what Drummond has to look at too this summer.
But the point stands. His deal represented the final use of the full MLE. To use that on a 1 year deal is a bit short sighted. Maybe they intended it that way b/c AC/THT were also upcoming FAs. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
My issue with the Trezz signing was that Rob knew they were going to extend LBJ/AD/Kuz/KCP.
So the future was looking like an over cap team, yet he signed Trezz with our last full MLE knowing that Trezz would likely be a 1 year rental, and then we would only have the mini MLE thereafter.
It might have been better to get a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer term deal. Now, we will be in a major hole if both Dennis/Trezz leave us, and we only have the mini MLE of 5m+ to fill those two holes.
What lesser name? That was the going rate and deal out there. Tristen Thompson and Ibaka got the same deal with the same option. That’s probably what Drummond has to look at too this summer.
But the point stands. His deal represented the final use of the full MLE. To use that on a 1 year deal is a bit short sighted. Maybe they intended it that way b/c AC/THT were also upcoming FAs.
I honestly think they offered that deal and other teams offered that deal because of COVID. No one knew what would have go on with the cap, fans coming back, if they would get cancelled again, etc, and that seemed to be the number and deal that was thrown out to guys. I mean any other summer and you see Trez, Tristen, and Ibaka get more years or varied money. There was so much uncertainty
I honestly think they offered that deal and other teams offered that deal because of COVID. No one knew what would have go on with the cap, fans coming back, if they would get cancelled again, etc, and that seemed to be the number and deal that was thrown out to guys. I mean any other summer and you see Trez, Tristen, and Ibaka get more years or varied money. There was so much uncertainty
Don't forget the "blocking move against the Clips" angle.
My issue with the Trezz signing was that Rob knew they were going to extend LBJ/AD/Kuz/KCP.
So the future was looking like an over cap team, yet he signed Trezz with our last full MLE knowing that Trezz would likely be a 1 year rental, and then we would only have the mini MLE thereafter.
It might have been better to get a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer term deal. Now, we will be in a major hole if both Dennis/Trezz leave us, and we only have the mini MLE of 5m+ to fill those two holes.
The guys who are available for the mle this season were a pretty weak crop. And almost all of them signed for no longer than a two-year deal. I don't think there was a lesser name who was willing to sign a longer-term deal who wouldn't have been a huge drop off. Most of the good players resigned with their own teams because they saw there wasn't going to be much cap space this year.
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