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governator
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| So this kid a project (post injury or something) or no good at all/spot holder for Ariza? |
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MookieBetts50
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Hope he can play with Caruso out tonight, wasted opportunity for him if he still awol.
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TDRock
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| danzag wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | Where he |
Excused absence, per Vogel |
I am going to be blunt and say this - to be clear this pure speculation on my part. I have no knowledge no one has said anything about this in media I’m purely speculating right now: I think he might be one of the players that has Covid19 right now. And teams cannot especially saying who does or who doesn’t unless the player gives consent. |
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hype
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| TDRock wrote: | | danzag wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | Where he |
Excused absence, per Vogel |
I am going to be blunt and say this - to be clear this pure speculation on my part. I have no knowledge no one has said anything about this in media I’m purely speculating right now: I think he might be one of the players that has Covid19 right now. And teams cannot especially saying who does or who doesn’t unless the player gives consent. |
That's pretty much everyone's first thoughts I think which is why Fisher threw out that disclaimer saying don't just assume he has Covid since the tests they are using give a false positive sometimes so it's not a certain thing.
Hopefully that's all it is because it would be nice to at least see him in a game or two this preseason. |
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lar9149
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| hype wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | danzag wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | Where he |
Excused absence, per Vogel |
I am going to be blunt and say this - to be clear this pure speculation on my part. I have no knowledge no one has said anything about this in media I’m purely speculating right now: I think he might be one of the players that has Covid19 right now. And teams cannot especially saying who does or who doesn’t unless the player gives consent. |
That's pretty much everyone's first thoughts I think which is why Fisher threw out that disclaimer saying don't just assume he has Covid since the tests they are using give a false positive sometimes so it's not a certain thing.
Hopefully that's all it is because it would be nice to at least see him in a game or two this preseason. |
You can also get inconclusive results..there are actually 2 parts to the COVID tests..if one of the parts is positive rather than both, its inconclusive.
It essentially means some viral DNA was detected, but it could be in very low amounts..so its presumptive positive and you are assumed to have COVID (and thus take the precautions)...but you should be retested to confirm.
This is actually what happened on Justin Turner's initial COVID test before game 7 of the world series..which later became positive
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/justin-turner-covid-positive-test-timeline-dodgers-world-series/1cebj1uhvozpi15vql8i6lsuf4 |
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Lakers and Clippers personnel miss preseason game under NBA’s health protocol
| Quote: | Kostas Antetokounmpo and Devontae Cacok, were not with their respective teams. All four had been at Staples Center for the teams’ preseason opener two days earlier.
In addition, Lakers forward Alfonzo McKinnie has yet to report to the team since training camp began one week ago because of an excused absence. |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2020-12-13/clippers-lakers-coronavirus-nba-health-protocols |
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pio2u
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Lakers and Clippers personnel miss preseason game under NBA’s health protocol
| Quote: | Kostas Antetokounmpo and Devontae Cacok, were not with their respective teams. All four had been at Staples Center for the teams’ preseason opener two days earlier.
In addition, Lakers forward Alfonzo McKinnie has yet to report to the team since training camp began one week ago because of an excused absence. |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2020-12-13/clippers-lakers-coronavirus-nba-health-protocols |
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hype
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| lar9149 wrote: | | hype wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | danzag wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | Where he |
Excused absence, per Vogel |
I am going to be blunt and say this - to be clear this pure speculation on my part. I have no knowledge no one has said anything about this in media I’m purely speculating right now: I think he might be one of the players that has Covid19 right now. And teams cannot especially saying who does or who doesn’t unless the player gives consent. |
That's pretty much everyone's first thoughts I think which is why Fisher threw out that disclaimer saying don't just assume he has Covid since the tests they are using give a false positive sometimes so it's not a certain thing.
Hopefully that's all it is because it would be nice to at least see him in a game or two this preseason. |
You can also get inconclusive results..there are actually 2 parts to the COVID tests..if one of the parts is positive rather than both, its inconclusive.
It essentially means some viral DNA was detected, but it could be in very low amounts..so its presumptive positive and you are assumed to have COVID (and thus take the precautions)...but you should be retested to confirm.
This is actually what happened on Justin Turner's initial COVID test before game 7 of the world series..which later became positive
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/justin-turner-covid-positive-test-timeline-dodgers-world-series/1cebj1uhvozpi15vql8i6lsuf4 |
Thanks for the clarification, I remember reading about Justin Turner so that def. makes sense when you cross reference that with this. I think it was THT that even said it was kind of jarring since they were completely expected to be there but it happened just a bit before pre-game. |
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Lakerwayne
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| So obviously hasn’t played much and was out for a little bit. Sorta curious about what he could provide if anything. Was wondering if he has any chance of helping in the playoffs a few minutes a game in certain matchups maybe against teams that have a lot of wings like the clippers or if he can stick with smaller guards sometimes |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakerwayne wrote: | | So obviously hasn’t played much and was out for a little bit. Sorta curious about what he could provide if anything. Was wondering if he has any chance of helping in the playoffs a few minutes a game in certain matchups maybe against teams that have a lot of wings like the clippers or if he can stick with smaller guards sometimes |
Don't see him playing any meaningful minutes in the playoffs... We are perimeter heavy and Vogel having a hard time giving minutes to everyone. I just don't see it specially when KCP and Caruso comes back. |
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Lakerwayne
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Lakerwayne wrote: | | So obviously hasn’t played much and was out for a little bit. Sorta curious about what he could provide if anything. Was wondering if he has any chance of helping in the playoffs a few minutes a game in certain matchups maybe against teams that have a lot of wings like the clippers or if he can stick with smaller guards sometimes |
Don't see him playing any meaningful minutes in the playoffs... We are perimeter heavy and Vogel having a hard time giving minutes to everyone. I just don't see it specially when KCP and Caruso comes back. |
Ya I agree it’s unlikely I guess I’m thinking is it in the realm of possibility like let’s say for instance the clippers roll out with something like George batum Leonard Morris ibaka or something and we want to counter with mckinnie kuzma lebron Morris ad or something even if just for 2 minutes in one playoff game or something idk or similarly 2 minutes iagainst a quick guard just for a different look of length but ya probably not.
But the only reason I would even entertain the possibility is because what makes him different from Caruso and kcp and the other guards is he has more height and length so it’s sorta different he’s a different body type so he’s a different defensive look. But different from kuz too so I guess like a Corey brewer two minutes of energy and annoyance type of thing maybe but we haven’t seen him much and I even looked up highlights but they are just dunks that doesn’t help lol so i don’t even know what he could bring even like in case of if there were injuries or something |
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| Lakerwayne wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Lakerwayne wrote: | | So obviously hasn’t played much and was out for a little bit. Sorta curious about what he could provide if anything. Was wondering if he has any chance of helping in the playoffs a few minutes a game in certain matchups maybe against teams that have a lot of wings like the clippers or if he can stick with smaller guards sometimes |
Don't see him playing any meaningful minutes in the playoffs... We are perimeter heavy and Vogel having a hard time giving minutes to everyone. I just don't see it specially when KCP and Caruso comes back. |
Ya I agree it’s unlikely I guess I’m thinking is it in the realm of possibility like let’s say for instance the clippers roll out with something like George batum Leonard Morris ibaka or something and we want to counter with mckinnie kuzma lebron Morris ad or something even if just for 2 minutes in one playoff game or something idk or similarly 2 minutes iagainst a quick guard just for a different look of length but ya probably not.
But the only reason I would even entertain the possibility is because what makes him different from Caruso and kcp and the other guards is he has more height and length so it’s sorta different he’s a different body type so he’s a different defensive look. But different from kuz too so I guess like a Corey brewer two minutes of energy and annoyance type of thing maybe but we haven’t seen him much and I even looked up highlights but they are just dunks that doesn’t help lol so i don’t even know what he could bring even like in case of if there were injuries or something |
He's really just a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency guy who fits in well under the hard cap because his salary is only $1.7 million. |
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miggz23
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I think it's time to give this kid a chance... KCP can use some rest. Just seems like he is hobbling every game.
McKinnie is 6'7 and suppose to be not a bad defender. During his garbage time I seen him grab rebounds, make 3s, put back dunks, and an alley oop I believe. Being short handed and with the recent shooting struggles. Let's see what the kid can do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0MgY9aows8 |
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MJST
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TDRock
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| So what is the deal with Zo? Is he just a trade chip or? He did good things on when he was on Golden State I liked him on Golden State. But he’s currently doing as much nothing for us as Cookie was so??? |
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PASTOR RILEY
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| TDRock wrote: | | So what is the deal with Zo? Is he just a trade chip or? He did good things on when he was on Golden State I liked him on Golden State. But he’s currently doing as much nothing for us as Cookie was so??? |
he has to be better than zero points in twenty six minutes Matthew |
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I’m surprised he has not earned some playing time too.
He has some skills. Not a major difference maker but solid role player that has proven he can contribute in the past.
Has there been any speculation on what he may be lacking in Vogel’s eyes to not see the floor. As mentioned, just as a change of pace instead of a struggling Matthews or due to injuries. |
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He was brought here to be an extra body that may get no playing time.
They very clearly don't see anything in him outside of Garbage time. Which he's done alright in, but it is called garbage time for a reason.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see him tonight to see what he can do, either as a look, show him off, or garbage time. The kid has been given no chance but is athletic & can do many things. I think Vogel needs to make a decision on his 10 man rotation?
We’ll know in next month who will be on final roster but our other guys have to step up if AD doesn’t come back at least 90%. LBJ, needs to swallow some pride & yield to Dennis running the offense & Vogel needs to insist ball movement on offense, so we knock off these ridiculous OT games...
Rob, can’t worry about keeping guys like Duds, Morris, Matthews in order to get the last two add on’s. Whiteside will not be bought out, Mamba is too young & earns bigger salary. Seems like Dedmon is the easiest get for big man. That leaves a wing 3 & D player (doubt Ariza) to get, but not sure who?
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | I’m surprised he has not earned some playing time too.
He has some skills. Not a major difference maker but solid role player that has proven he can contribute in the past.
Has there been any speculation on what he may be lacking in Vogel’s eyes to not see the floor. As mentioned, just as a change of pace instead of a struggling Matthews or due to injuries. |
We have 11 guys averaging at least 16 minutes a game. There isn't any time to give him. |
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