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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:20 am    Post subject: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


Last year’s clippers
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject:

I doubt there's been a Lakers team this deep in a loooooong time

Two superstars, two prominent secondary scoring option, extremely solid role players down to the 10th man, and more to come

We're definitely the deepest team in the league right now, followed by Portland
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

BigBallerBrand wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


Last year’s clippers


I think we’re deeper.

Our top 10 players are more valuable than Zubac, Patterson, and Green.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:06 am    Post subject:

Pre-KD Warriors were pretty loaded. 08-09 Lakers too.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:06 am    Post subject:

lakers not best starting 5... possible best talent overall
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

BigBallerBrand wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


Last year’s clippers


not sure who the clippers #11-15 were last year.

but they sure had weakness in both pg and c positions
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:19 am    Post subject:

I thought last year’s team was the best team I’ve ever seen and this one looks even better.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Pre-KD Warriors were pretty loaded. 08-09 Lakers too.


would be curious to compare our eventual 11-15 to warriors and lakers of the past
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


I think Kobe first few years is comparable when we failed to win it all.

4 all stars - Shaq, Kobe , Van Exel , and Eddie Jones

And we have Campbell, Fox, Horry , Fish and Blount off the bench.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:36 am    Post subject:

87 Lakers. Magic, Cap, Worthy, Cooper, Scott, Green, Thompson, Matthews, Rambis. Team was pretty deep and balanced
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject:

I would go with last year’s clippers but they had a glaring hole at PG and Pandemic P is such a choker that it ruined the juggernaut roster they had.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

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cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


I think Kobe first few years is comparable when we failed to win it all.

4 all stars - Shaq, Kobe , Van Exel , and Eddie Jones

And we have Campbell, Fox, Horry , Fish and Blount off the bench.


1996-97 lakers
very deep but lacked the top 2 players in 2020 as kobe was a pup


43 Corie Blount PF 6-9 240 January 4, 1969 us 3 Cincinnati
8 Kobe Bryant SF 6-6 212 August 23, 1978 us R
41 Elden Campbell PF 6-11 215 July 23, 1968 us 6 Clemson
23 Cedric Ceballos SF 6-6 190 August 2, 1969 us 6 Cal State Fullerton
2 Derek Fisher PG 6-1 200 August 9, 1974 us R Little Rock
5 Robert Horry SF 6-10 240 August 25, 1970 us 4 Alabama
6 Eddie Jones SG 6-6 190 October 20, 1971 us 2 Temple
12 Jerome Kersey SF 6-7 215 June 26, 1962 us 12 Longwood University
35 Joe Kleine C 6-11 255 January 4, 1962 us 11 Notre Dame, Arkansas
40 Travis Knight C 7-0 235 September 13, 1974 us R UConn
7 Larry Krystkowiak PF 6-9 220 September 23, 1964 us 9 Montana
24 George McCloud SF 6-6 205 May 27, 1967 us 6 Florida State
34 Shaquille O'Neal C 7-1 325 March 6, 1972 us 4 LSU
20 Rumeal Robinson PG 6-2 195 November 13, 1966 jm 5 Michigan
45 Sean Rooks C 6-10 250 September 9, 1969 us 4 Arizona
4 Byron Scott SG 6-3 195 March 28, 1961 us 13 Arizona State
9 Nick Van Exel PG 6-1 170 November 27, 1971 us 3 Trinity Valley CC, Cincinnati
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:43 am    Post subject:

The 1985 Lakers team was pretty deep. They had five Hall of Famers on that team. Kareem, Magic, McAdoo, Wilkes, and Worthy. They also had Cooper and Byron Scott.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:44 am    Post subject:

More importantly, there's a definitive closing lineups, with versatility to adjust if necessary.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject:

Low-key though - on paper, this could be Bron's most stacked roster in a while

Compare it to the 15-16 Cavs and the 12-13 Heat

PG: Chalmers - Cole
SG: Wade - Allen
SF: LeBron - Miller
PF: Battier - Lewis
C: Bosh - Haslem

PG: Irving - Dellavedova
SG: Smith - Shumpert
SF: LeBron - Jefferson
PF: Love - Frye
C: Thompson - Mozgov

PG: LeBron - Schroder
SG: KCP - Caruso
SF: Matthews - Kuzma
PF: Davis - Morris
C: Gasol - Harrell

Again, I emphasise *on paper* - does this team not stack up pretty well to those other squads?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:51 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
The 1985 Lakers team was pretty deep. They had five Hall of Famers on that team. Kareem, Magic, McAdoo, Wilkes, and Worthy. They also had Cooper and Byron Scott.



85-86 lakers had 2 hall of famers at the top of their games in worthy and magic that would rival lbj and ad
aging kareem with scott and cooper who were very good
i dare say 2020 team 11-15 would be better than the 85-86 lakers while the top 5 players are comparable

33 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar C 7-2 225 April 16, 1947 us 16 UCLA
21 Michael Cooper SG 6-5 170 April 15, 1956 us 7 New Mexico
45 A.C. Green PF 6-9 220 October 4, 1963 us R Oregon State
34 Pétur Guðmundsson C 7-2 260 October 30, 1958 is 1 Washington
23 Jerome Henderson C 6-11 230 October 5, 1959 us R New Mexico
32 Magic Johnson PG 6-9 215 August 14, 1959 us 6 Michigan State
25 Mitch Kupchak PF 6-9 230 May 24, 1954 us 8 UNC
12 Ronnie Lester PG 6-2 175 January 1, 1959 us 5 Iowa
20 Maurice Lucas PF 6-9 215 February 18, 1952 us 11 Marquette
40 Mike McGee SF 6-5 190 July 29, 1959 us 4 Michigan
43 Chuck Nevitt C 7-5 217 June 13, 1959 us 2 NC State
31 Kurt Rambis PF 6-8 213 February 25, 1958 us 4 Santa Clara
4 Byron Scott SG 6-3 195 March 28, 1961 us 2 Arizona State
35 Larry Spriggs SF 6-7 230 September 8, 1959 us 4 Howard University
42 James Worthy SF 6-9 225 February 27, 1961 us 3 UNC
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:55 am    Post subject:

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lakers not best starting 5... possible best talent overall


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:56 am    Post subject:

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I doubt there's been a Lakers team this deep in a loooooong time

Two superstars, two prominent secondary scoring option, extremely solid role players down to the 10th man, and more to come

We're definitely the deepest team in the league right now, followed by Portland


Lol why Portland ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:00 pm    Post subject:

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I doubt there's been a Lakers team this deep in a loooooong time

Two superstars, two prominent secondary scoring option, extremely solid role players down to the 10th man, and more to come

We're definitely the deepest team in the league right now, followed by Portland


Lol why Portland ?

Have you seen how deep they go?

PG: Lillard - Simons
SG: McCollum - Hood - Trent Jr
SF: Covington - Jones Jr
PF: Melo - Collins
C: Nurkic - Kanter - Giles

Yeah I know they don't have nearly the top-end talent that we do, but that squad literally goes pretty much 12 deep
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?


Remember the scene from Pulp Fiction, when they get the car all cleaned up?

Remember what the Wolfe said to them?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:05 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
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lakers not best starting 5... possible best talent overall




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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 2020 lakers - has the ever been a team this deep?

cal1piggy wrote:
i dont remember ever any team in history this deep?

ac/ds
kcp/matthews/tht
lbj/kuz/mckinnie
ad/morris
gasol/trezz
soon to add 3 more - may be pg3, another big c and one more

how many teams have starters that are better than our 'backups' of ds/matthews/kuz/morris/trezz ???

nets/miami/boston/raptors/sixers/mavs/warriors/clippers/houston ???


Oh, sure. There have been lots of teams as deep or deeper than us.

The Trailblazer team we faced during the threepeat had a bench of Detlef Schrempf, Brian Grant, Stacey Augmon, Jermaine O'Neal, Bonzi Wells, and Greg Anthony.

The Heat had a bench with two Hall of Famers: Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, Shandon Anderson, Jason Kapono, Derek Anderson, Antoine Walker

The Pistons had a bench with Rick Mahorn, John Salley, Dennis Rodman, Vinnie Johnson, James Edwards.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
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Yah, beat me to it.
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