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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:12 pm    Post subject:

Late lottery teams benefitting from Franz and Moody dropping after tough tournament outs >>>>
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:43 am    Post subject:

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Late lottery teams benefitting from Franz and Moody dropping after tough tournament outs >>>>


Totally.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:08 am    Post subject:

Is Juzang a 1st round pick? He can shoot lights out but I noticed he gets subbed out for defense at the end of games.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject:

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Is Juzang a 1st round pick? He can shoot lights out but I noticed he gets subbed out for defense at the end of games.


I hate to say this, but 2nd round to undrafted.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:50 am    Post subject:

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Is Juzang a 1st round pick? He can shoot lights out but I noticed he gets subbed out for defense at the end of games.


I hate to say this, but 2nd round to undrafted.


Just not an elite athlete enough?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:48 pm    Post subject:

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Is Juzang a 1st round pick? He can shoot lights out but I noticed he gets subbed out for defense at the end of games.


I hate to say this, but 2nd round to undrafted.


Just not an elite athlete enough?


Type of shot creation. There are 3 and D guys in the NBA draft that are showing efficiency with their own shot creation at the NCAA level, but while they're efficient at Div I, it won't as likely to the NBA level.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Late lottery teams benefitting from Franz and Moody dropping after tough tournament outs >>>>


Always thought of Franz as a 20+ draft position. Don't care for glue guys going lottery.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:42 pm    Post subject:

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Late lottery teams benefitting from Franz and Moody dropping after tough tournament outs >>>>


Always thought of Franz as a 20+ draft position. Don't care for glue guys going lottery.


I don't think it's so much of "glue guys" as opposed to "projecting longer/most successful NBA career." It isn't just the Michigan development, it's also how well he played in FIBA U18 too.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:27 am    Post subject:

Wasserman Mock.

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938822-2021-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-entering-april
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:25 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Wasserman Mock.

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938822-2021-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-entering-april


Thanks for posting. Agree with most of his player assessments and draft position placement.

No Preston, Boeheim, Jay Huff and David Johnson. Unless there are off court issues I had DJ late 1st and a possible Lakers pick. Kinda low for Daishen Nix.

Did not realize Davion had risen up so high. Good to see RaiQuan Gray is now being mocked. He is a Jazz type of player. I did like Austin Reaves from his first game against Cade. I position him at PG where his defensive liabilities would be more acceptable.

Need to review Livers again as i had him UDFA. Would absolutely take Springer if there at Lakers pick. I am still hesitant on Cooper. Don't see Isaiah Jackson that high. Would prefer Bassey over him if had to choose a center.

It is time for the Lakers to acquire affordable talent on the back end of the roster and this is a good draft to start that process. They should also look at some of the young 2-3 year players also available (Khyri Thomas, Terrance Ferguson, Zhaire Smith, Melvin Frazier). Even the Nets found a useful rotation player in Bruce Brown this year. Edit Brown was acquired via trade and not off the street.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:25 pm    Post subject:

^I think it falls apart at pick 20.

LAL would be lucky to get Springer. Big PG even if the athletic tools aren't the greatest.

Prkacin, TSJ, McBride, Kessler Edwards, Bones Hyland I would have in the 20s, not 30-45 which seems absurd.

DayRon I think is 20 picks off at least.

Jokubaitis is late 1st/early 2nd, not 45.

Abmus, I don't think should be drafted.

Trey Murphy, Hukporti, Queta - 10 picks off.

Nix, 20 picks off.

David Duke, 10 picks off.

I wouldn't draft Bassey.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:02 pm    Post subject:

Abmas is so fun to watch. Unlike most of the small high scoring guards in the past I believe he is an NBA talent. The shot and quickness are NBA caliber. He has the innate talent to score and it was a similar belief I had in Isaiah Thomas when he was coming out of Washington.

Yes some of the draft positions are off but many between 20-40 are interchangeable.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:29 pm    Post subject:

^I believed in IT way more than Abmus.

Abmus has a pull up J and that's it. Not the same playmaker, drive kick, swing passer, finisher around the hoop as IT. Just a 2 playing 1 in the NCAA and a pull up J is all you need to look real good.

Markus Howard. Carson Edwards. Both better.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Leaning Daishen over Sharife.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:48 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
DD20045 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
DD20045 wrote:
Is Juzang a 1st round pick? He can shoot lights out but I noticed he gets subbed out for defense at the end of games.


I hate to say this, but 2nd round to undrafted.


Just not an elite athlete enough?


Type of shot creation. There are 3 and D guys in the NBA draft that are showing efficiency with their own shot creation at the NCAA level, but while they're efficient at Div I, it won't as likely to the NBA level.

Juzang's off-ball movement and quick release are more intriguing than his on-ball skills in the NBA, but the pull-up efficiency while being the focus of some high level NCAA defenses could point to him being a better shooting prospect than his raw numbers would indicate. A guy who can catch in motion, fake a trailing defender, and hit a step-back 3 in clutch situations has more value than a guy who stands still in the corners.

You'd have to buy his shooting and that he won't be a negative on defense, and even then that's a 20s pick to me.
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Leaning Daishen over Sharife.

Size matters
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:20 pm    Post subject:

I'm a fan of Mitchell and Butler, but 100% you draft Nix, Cooper, and Giddey over them.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 am    Post subject:

Is Kispert a little overrated?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:55 am    Post subject:

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Is Kispert a little overrated?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject:

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I'm a fan of Mitchell and Butler, but 100% you draft Nix, Cooper, and Giddey over them.


I actually like Mitchell/Butler the most here, even if Nix and Giddey have the best vision and Cooper is more of a question mark with his size/athleticism combination.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:57 am    Post subject:

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I'm a fan of Mitchell and Butler, but 100% you draft Nix, Cooper, and Giddey over them.


Just some concerns with the young ones.

Nix - could not get into shape for the Gleauge as he looked to carry extra body weight. Discipline?

Cooper - He looks so small. Is he actually 6'? I believe the jump shot will come. Is he a long term starter?

Giddey - was watching some Isaac Humphries highlights (don't know why) and he plays with Giddey. The passes were as advertised but his body seemed a bit stiff having trouble changing direction as he drove the lane. However I see why you prefer him.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:20 am    Post subject:

Giddey's wingspan is 6'8"

I love jumbo initiators, but Giddey is the one guy where I question the athleticism/length a lot. Even Kyle Anderson has a 7'2" wingspan and SR of a PF.

Butler and Mitchell have the least flaws of Nix, Giddey, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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I'm a fan of Mitchell and Butler, but 100% you draft Nix, Cooper, and Giddey over them.


I actually like Mitchell/Butler the most here, even if Nix and Giddey have the best vision and Cooper is more of a question mark with his size/athleticism combination.

Older, smallish college PGs come and go every year and few really hit in the pros.
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Giddey's wingspan is 6'8"

I love jumbo initiators, but Giddey is the one guy where I question the athleticism/length a lot. Even Kyle Anderson has a 7'2" wingspan and SR of a PF.

Butler and Mitchell have the least flaws of Nix, Giddey, etc.

Outside of Mitchell's defense and Butler's jumper, I think Nix, Cooper, and Giddey have clear strength advantages - all are superior passers; Cooper's elite driving; Giddey and Nix as rebounders - while having youth on their side to shore up some of their skill weaknesses.

Giddey with his athletic limitations and mediocre perimeter shooting still gets downhill a surprising amount against grown men. I think he's faster in a straight line than Slo-Mo with a quicker first step even if he's stiffer than Lonzo through the upper body.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:52 am    Post subject:

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Is Kispert a little overrated?

I think he'll be a better pro than McDermott, but the Kispert over hyping gives off McDermott vibes.
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