| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Baron Von Humongous
Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 32979
|
 Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:11 pm Post subject: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
Convince me otherwise
_________________
Under New Management |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Halflife
Franchise Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2015
Posts: 16703
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Worthy, Kaj, magic, cooper, rambis |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I agree BVH  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
waterman40
Star Player
Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Posts: 6284
Location: Central Coast
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
This could be the deepest team since the Showtime Lakers. We ahve some really nice starting fives and a couple of teams that went 7-8 deep. But 1-14 its looking like maybe the deepest team we have since the 1990's.
_________________
LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SocalDevin
Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016
Posts: 7825
Location: Long Beach
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| waterman40 wrote: | | This could be the deepest team since the Showtime Lakers. We ahve some really nice starting fives and a couple of teams that went 7-8 deep. But 1-14 its looking like maybe the deepest team we have since the 1990's. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lakersfever714
Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Jan 2016
Posts: 11753
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Amen. Showtime Lakers got nothing on this squad.
#171819Dynasty
_________________
LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
digcom99
Sixth Man
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
Probably the best in 30 years, more talented than any Kobe/Shaq or Kobe/Gasol roster.
But no where close to the talent of the Showtime Lakers. Those teams went to 9 finals, winning 5 championships;
They had 4 HOF players in Kareem, Magic, James Worthy and Jamaal Wilkes....plus DPOY in Michael Cooper. Also had key role and bench players with Norm Nixon, Byron Scott, HOF'er Bob McAdoo, AC Green, Mychal Thompson, Kurt Rambis and Spencer Haywood.
This team is definitely the deepest I've seen and will be a lot of fun to watch. I'm really looking forward to this season. I think it will be as exciting as those Showtime years and the 3-peat with Shaq/Kobe.
Last edited by digcom99 on Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:54 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Treble Clef
Franchise Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 23899
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
Most talented team period. I can’t think of any way to fill in the sentence below.
“The Lakers are going to have a tough game when they play a game at ____”. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SocalDevin
Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016
Posts: 7825
Location: Long Beach
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I believe Kobe and Shaq to be superior talents to Bron and AD.. but their teams were a bit top heavy.. So I can see an argument being made for this team being more talented considering all the complimentary pieces.
I also think Kobe, Pau, and Odom are superior talents collectively than Bron and AD.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Annihilator
Star Player
Joined: 02 Jul 2001
Posts: 4035
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
As the 1971-72 Laker team won 33 games in a row, there isn't enough data yet to make this determination.
Last edited by Annihilator on Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:13 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakerfan 4 Life
Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001
Posts: 16096
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Even better than the 97 and 98 Lakers? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
digcom99
Sixth Man
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Annihilator wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
There isn't enough data yet to make this determination.
The 1971-72 Laker team won 33 games in a row. |
Even though I was just a young kid, I remember that season. There were only 17 teams in the league back then and some truly bad ones.
I'm so glad that record still stands. Even happier to have been lucky enough to have seen Chamberlain and Jerry West play. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LFsnz67
Starting Rotation
Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Posts: 360
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| digcom99 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
Probably the best in 30 years, more talented than any Kobe/Shaq or Kobe/Gasol roster.
But no where close to the talent of the Showtime Lakers. Those teams went to 9 finals, winning 5 championships;
They had 4 HOF players in Kareem, Magic, James Worthy and Jamaal Wilkes....plus DPOY in Michael Cooper. Also had key role and bench players with Norm Nixon, Byron Scott, HOF'er Bob McAdoo, AC Green, Mychal Thompson, Kurt Rambis and Spencer Haywood.
This team is definitely the deepest I've seen and will be a lot of fun to watch. I'm really looking forward to this season. I think it will be as exciting as those Showtime years and the 3-peat with Shaq/Kobe. |
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dr. Laker
Franchise Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 17104
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1985.html
1984-85 Lakers
Abdul-Jabbar (Hall of Fame)
Magic Johnson (Hall of Fame)
Bob McAdoo (Hall of Fame)
Jamaal Wilkes (Hall of Fame)
James Worthy (Hall of Fame)
Michael Cooper (8X All-D, DPOY)
Mitch Kupchak (All-Rookie)
Byron Scott (All-Rookie)
_________________
On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LandsbergerRules
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 11197
Location: The Other Perspective
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1985.html
1984-85 Lakers
Abdul-Jabbar (Hall of Fame)
Magic Johnson (Hall of Fame)
Bob McAdoo (Hall of Fame)
Jamaal Wilkes (Hall of Fame)
James Worthy (Hall of Fame)
Michael Cooper (8X All-D, DPOY)
Mitch Kupchak (All-Rookie)
Byron Scott (All-Rookie) |
Mike McGee and Rambis were no joke on that team either.
_________________
"Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mad55557777
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 23128
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
With THT playing like this, lakers are 11 deep...
Hard to distribute the minutes.
Assuming Schroeder and gasol starting with KCP, lebron, AD
We got Matthews, Ac, THT, Trez, keef, Kuz. It is a good problem to have, but we can’t run 11 deep every game. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dr. Laker
Franchise Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
Posts: 17104
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1985.html
1984-85 Lakers
Abdul-Jabbar (Hall of Fame)
Magic Johnson (Hall of Fame)
Bob McAdoo (Hall of Fame)
Jamaal Wilkes (Hall of Fame)
James Worthy (Hall of Fame)
Michael Cooper (8X All-D, DPOY)
Mitch Kupchak (All-Rookie)
Byron Scott (All-Rookie) |
Mike McGee and Rambis were no joke on that team either. |
McGee was instant points. Rambis was an intelligent hack. Not as talented as he thought he was - but he played his role perfectly. Set hard picks, ran the floor and did the dirty work.
_________________
On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LandsbergerRules
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 11197
Location: The Other Perspective
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Dr. Laker wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1985.html
1984-85 Lakers
Abdul-Jabbar (Hall of Fame)
Magic Johnson (Hall of Fame)
Bob McAdoo (Hall of Fame)
Jamaal Wilkes (Hall of Fame)
James Worthy (Hall of Fame)
Michael Cooper (8X All-D, DPOY)
Mitch Kupchak (All-Rookie)
Byron Scott (All-Rookie) |
Mike McGee and Rambis were no joke on that team either. |
McGee was instant points. Rambis was an intelligent hack. Not as talented as he thought he was - but he played his role perfectly. Set hard picks, ran the floor and did the dirty work. |
Kurt was a monster at Santa Clara lol.
_________________
"Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
CervantesRises
Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2016
Posts: 3918
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
Don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ring.
This team gonna beat the hell outta some squads this year though.
_________________
"If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
#BannersOverBillboards |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LakerLanny
Retired Number
Joined: 24 Oct 2001
Posts: 47580
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | | Even better than the 97 and 98 Lakers? |
More proven and some great young talent role players.
Pelinka has been sensational, it cannot be debated anymore.
_________________
Love, Laker Lanny |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mad55557777
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 23128
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | | Even better than the 97 and 98 Lakers? |
Kobe was not a superstar back then. You have NVE and Eddie Jones blocking Kobe’s development |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KBandKB
Star Player
Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 2278
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We are 11 deep. Any of those 11 were either starters at one point or would be a starter in at least half of today’s league.
Then we have Dudley, an important leadership piece. We also have McKinnie and Cook who aren’t bad role players either. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Harlemlakerfan
Star Player
Joined: 19 Mar 2014
Posts: 2716
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: This is the most talented Lakers team ever assembled |
|
|
| Dr. Laker wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Convince me otherwise |
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1985.html
1984-85 Lakers
Abdul-Jabbar (Hall of Fame)
Magic Johnson (Hall of Fame)
Bob McAdoo (Hall of Fame)
Jamaal Wilkes (Hall of Fame)
James Worthy (Hall of Fame)
Michael Cooper (8X All-D, DPOY)
Mitch Kupchak (All-Rookie)
Byron Scott (All-Rookie) |
Mike McGee and Rambis were no joke on that team either. |
McGee was instant points. Rambis was an intelligent hack. Not as talented as he thought he was - but he played his role perfectly. Set hard picks, ran the floor and did the dirty work. |
That 85 Laker team...my goodness!
what about the 97-98 Lakers
Shaq
Kobe
Eddie Jones
Nick Van Excel
Elden Campbell
Rick Fox
Robert Horry
Derek Fisher
Sean Rooks |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
digcom99
Sixth Man
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KBandKB wrote: | We are 11 deep. Any of those 11 were either starters at one point or would be a starter in at least half of today’s league.
Then we have Dudley, an important leadership piece. We also have McKinnie and Cook who aren’t bad role players either. |
Deep...yes. More talented than the 80's teams...no. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Batguano
Star Player
Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 2255
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
All this because some dude had a great game in the preseason. 
I wish I could go back and do a QFOS about every young player that Lakersground get overhyped about after a single game. I've literally seen posters comapre THT to Harden, Manu and Paul Pierce. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
