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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:27 pm    Post subject: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

The league has definitely gone bigger to copy and counter the Lakers.

HOU, the smallest team last season, by adding Boogie and Wood, both basically 7 footers, now actually play bigger than the current Lakers.

Even the Clippers who would play small ball in the 4th are now bigger with Ibaka and Zubac taking turns.

Aside from GSW, looks like every team in the NBA now has at least 2 big men in their rotations, but GSW, the team everyone started copying their small ball 5 years ago just drafted a 7’1 center.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:33 pm    Post subject:

Lakers went smaller and quicker anticipating the rest of the league going bigger
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:36 pm    Post subject:

The championship teams usually set the tone for the league.

The 2009 and 2010 Lakers made people try to combat our size

People also started thinking small because of GSW (although there was a trend towards that in recent years prior)?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Our small ball was always big because AD/LeBron are freaks. That's the challenge for teams. Can you play with our speed while also combatting our strength and size?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:07 pm    Post subject:

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Our small ball was always big because AD/LeBron are freaks. That's the challenge for teams. Can you play with our speed while also combatting our strength and size?


Yup, it's why I was a little worried at the possibility of Dallas getting Giannis especially being in the West with him and Luka being so young. That extension to keep him in Milwaukee was huge for the Lakers.

In the regular season I see it possibly helping some teams against us but once the Playoffs roll around and AD slides to center as much as necessary there's no team that matches up to us really well this season.

I will say i'm curious to see how we play the Nuggets once we get into the season a bit.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject:

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Our small ball was always big because AD/LeBron are freaks. That's the challenge for teams. Can you play with our speed while also combatting our strength and size?

This. Small ball was just a quick way to bring guard skill to all five positions and with skilled, athletic bigs at a premium, especially five years ago, a lot of teams thought they could emulate GSW without realizing that Draymond Green is a special passer and big man defender they couldn't develop out of any 6'8 PF that came into the league.*


* Looking at you, Luke.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

Nash Vegas wrote:
The league has definitely gone bigger to copy and counter the Lakers.

HOU, the smallest team last season, by adding Boogie and Wood, both basically 7 footers, now actually play bigger than the current Lakers.

Even the Clippers who would play small ball in the 4th are now bigger with Ibaka and Zubac taking turns.

Aside from GSW, looks like every team in the NBA now has at least 2 big men in their rotations, but GSW, the team everyone started copying their small ball 5 years ago just drafted a 7’1 center.


yet we have gotten smaller
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

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Nash Vegas wrote:
The league has definitely gone bigger to copy and counter the Lakers.

HOU, the smallest team last season, by adding Boogie and Wood, both basically 7 footers, now actually play bigger than the current Lakers.

Even the Clippers who would play small ball in the 4th are now bigger with Ibaka and Zubac taking turns.

Aside from GSW, looks like every team in the NBA now has at least 2 big men in their rotations, but GSW, the team everyone started copying their small ball 5 years ago just drafted a 7’1 center.


yet we have gotten smaller

At one position
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:57 pm    Post subject:

BIG DEAL...!

They will still all lose to the Lakers...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

Nash Vegas wrote:
The league has definitely gone bigger to copy and counter the Lakers.

HOU, the smallest team last season, by adding Boogie and Wood, both basically 7 footers, now actually play bigger than the current Lakers.

Even the Clippers who would play small ball in the 4th are now bigger with Ibaka and Zubac taking turns.

Aside from GSW, looks like every team in the NBA now has at least 2 big men in their rotations, but GSW, the team everyone started copying their small ball 5 years ago just drafted a 7’1 center.


Two teams sign no-brainer free agents and that demonstrates the "league is doing big because of the Lakers"?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:29 am    Post subject:

Christian Wood looked really good last night for the Rockets.

Houston playing big is a totally different team from last season.

If Harden stays, they could be a top 3 team in the West.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

Nash Vegas wrote:
The league has definitely gone bigger to copy and counter the Lakers.

HOU, the smallest team last season, by adding Boogie and Wood, both basically 7 footers, now actually play bigger than the current Lakers.

Even the Clippers who would play small ball in the 4th are now bigger with Ibaka and Zubac taking turns.

Aside from GSW, looks like every team in the NBA now has at least 2 big men in their rotations, but GSW, the team everyone started copying their small ball 5 years ago just drafted a 7’1 center.


The league has always been big. What the Warriors did was something that only they could do (with Clay and Curry). Others tried to copy it but who has successfully duplicated it? The league went small because there was a period of mediocre bigs and Clay and Curry were running roughshod over the league.

The Lakers have ALWAYS been about having great center play and great guard play. That has NEVER changed. This current Laker team can play both big and small which presents a HUGE problem for the rest of the league.

I never thought what the Warriors were doing was sustainable. It was great for them, but not sustainable.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:10 am    Post subject:

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Christian Wood looked really good last night for the Rockets.

Houston playing big is a totally different team from last season.

If Harden stays, they could be a top 3 team in the West.


Wood did look good. What didn't look or sound good, not that I care, is the announcer yelling "who needs James Harden?" after a Wood basket. That was tacky.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:48 am    Post subject:

Had no idea Christian Wood can do everything and he's only 25?



Rockets is a totally different team now.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:07 am    Post subject:

That's what happens when you have Anthony (bleep) Davis
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: League going “BIG” because of the Lakers

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Two teams sign no-brainer free agents and that demonstrates the "league is doing big because of the Lakers"?


Yeah. I'm glad this was a really short offseason.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:15 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
That's what happens when you have Anthony (bleep) Davis


100%

We big on small ball
We fast on big ball
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:58 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
That's what happens when you have Anthony (bleep) Davis

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:01 pm    Post subject:

Going with big lineups doesn't solve the problems.

Going big with actual skill sets does. But LAL has the best 2 guys in the league at that.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:21 pm    Post subject:

I still can't believe how the Western Conference has just detonated
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:41 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
I still can't believe how the Western Conference has just detonated


Players run away from the Lebron conference...except for Kawhi who just doesn’t give a (bleep) and wants to live in Southern California
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
drae wrote:
I still can't believe how the Western Conference has just detonated


Players run away from the Lebron conference...except for Kawhi who just doesn’t give a (bleep) and wants to live in Southern California


Seriously! It'd be hilarious if Harden goes east. Bron goes West and all these stars run back East.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:56 pm    Post subject:

We won't lead the league in blocks or dunks but our offense should be better
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:08 pm    Post subject:

I don’t know if the Lakers are really influencing anyone’s free agent decisions. Even those teams know the Lakers are winning everything for the next few years.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject:

We killed the following narratives that had developed over the past few years.

1- A star bigman star guard combo is not going to work, as now it is a guard-wing players league when it comes to titles.

2- Posting up is outdated, see Bron-AD post up all playoffs.

3- You can not start legit Cs and play AD at 4 (we did it all RS, and half of the playoffs).

4- Bron can not play PG, that he needs someone like Wade-Kyrie to create for him.

There were more, but when we gave Houston that beatdown and won the title soon after, you knew the league was gonna try to start copying the Lakers.

What it is always been about is talent. If you have talented bigs, who defend, they will always be valuable. Teams forgot that. Lakers reminded everyone about that. Its not like the Vlade Divacs of the NBA won the titles in June. It was the Shaqs, Duncans, Garnetts. Those are freakish talents, and we have one in now in AD.

Actually if you go back to last year, the Raptors even played big. Ibaka-Gasol-Kawhi is a big time front line, as is Ibaka-Kawhi-Pascal. The Warriors title teams were great, but the Raptors team and the Lakers team last year were also outstanding. There are many ways to win, if your talent plays together. I still do not understand when the whole "Shoot only 3s or layups" thing will officially end. A great open mid-range shot, should be taken, for a NBA level basketball player, that's like a FT. A forced mid-range shot is just as bad as a forced 3 point shot. If you're a great mid-range shooter, isolate from there. If you are good at taking 3 pointers, take it from there. However to box yourself in to 3 pointers or layups, makes you so easy to defend come playoffs. The Lakers team was special last year as they played from all parts of the court - 3 pointers, mid-range and inside. Floor balance + elite talent = rings.
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