| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Stumpy25
Star Player
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
Posts: 1314
|
 Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| governator wrote: | | So the question is, after one game lol, has he looked good enough to supplant McKinney/Dudley if we need to make a room? or can we sign him to 2-way (can play how many reg season games?) and drop Kostas? |
I actually think dropping Kostas and signing Jones to a 2 way is what eventually is going to happen. No need to keep McKinney either. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PlantedTanks
Star Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 3156
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Stumpy25 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | So the question is, after one game lol, has he looked good enough to supplant McKinney/Dudley if we need to make a room? or can we sign him to 2-way (can play how many reg season games?) and drop Kostas? |
I actually think dropping Kostas and signing Jones to a 2 way is what eventually is going to happen. No need to keep McKinney either. |
Jones does not qualify for a 2-way due to this being his 5th year in the NBA. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lurklurk
Starting Rotation
Joined: 08 Mar 2016
Posts: 621
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| PlantedTanks wrote: | | Stumpy25 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | So the question is, after one game lol, has he looked good enough to supplant McKinney/Dudley if we need to make a room? or can we sign him to 2-way (can play how many reg season games?) and drop Kostas? |
I actually think dropping Kostas and signing Jones to a 2 way is what eventually is going to happen. No need to keep McKinney either. |
Jones does not qualify for a 2-way due to this being his 5th year in the NBA. |
Minimum roster count is actually 14 (not including the two-way). If they cut mckinney they’d need to sign another 1. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hype
Star Player
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 4372
Location: Lake Nacimiento
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Stumpy25 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | So the question is, after one game lol, has he looked good enough to supplant McKinney/Dudley if we need to make a room? or can we sign him to 2-way (can play how many reg season games?) and drop Kostas? |
I actually think dropping Kostas and signing Jones to a 2 way is what eventually is going to happen. No need to keep McKinney either. |
We're hard capped and McKinney has a guaranteed contract so there's zero chance they let him go unless it's through a trade since he'd still be on the books anyways and we wouldn't be able to replace him resulting in an empty wasted roster spot.
The reason they cut Cook is because he was on an unguaranteed contract so it freed that little bit of money back up. Dudley also has a guaranteed contract so it's the same situation as McKinney.
Beyond a trade happening we will only have 2 roster spots until the end of the season with Jones temporarily at least taking one with his current 10 day contract. It's why the Lakers are not making any panic moves because the last thing you want to happen is miss out on a possible much better player down the road the bit.
It's why many here were satisfied with the Jones signing as if you take a step back and look at the big picture it was the smart move to make currently imo. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Halflife
Franchise Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2015
Posts: 16702
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| if he starts he may never relinquish the role and either gasol or AD will be coming in off the bench |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pio2u
Retired Number
Joined: 26 Dec 2012
Posts: 54570
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Halflife wrote: | | if he starts he may never relinquish the role and either gasol or AD will be coming in off the bench |
He's dinged up so I don't expect much from him. However I am open to being "pleasantly surprised."  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ocho
Retired Number
Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 53790
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
He should be here more than 10 days.
_________________
14-5-3-12 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LakerLanny
Retired Number
Joined: 24 Oct 2001
Posts: 47580
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Omen?
_________________
Love, Laker Lanny |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nash Vegas
Star Player
Joined: 01 Sep 2012
Posts: 7239
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Vogel: “Dudley at center >>>>>> Dame”
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kobetan
Star Player
Joined: 05 Sep 2020
Posts: 2944
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Why only 7 minutes?
Last edited by Kobetan on Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:10 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
miggz23
Star Player
Joined: 29 Nov 2018
Posts: 6755
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ocho wrote: | | He should be here more than 10 days. |
They can sign him to a second 10 day contract. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BandwagonLBJhopper
Star Player
Joined: 07 Feb 2020
Posts: 3579
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I’ve seen enough - sign the guy. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mhan00
Retired Number
Joined: 13 Apr 2001
Posts: 32059
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Really surprised he didn’t some more minutes. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kobetan
Star Player
Joined: 05 Sep 2020
Posts: 2944
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| mhan00 wrote: | | Really surprised he didn’t some more minutes. |
Hopefully it's not health related |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leking006
Star Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2018
Posts: 6339
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Lakers should sign him ASAP before Nets or other teams in need of big snatch him. Hope Vogel will use him vs whiteside tomorrow so we can guage how he would fare. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
governator
Retired Number
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 25076
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
| BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | | I’ve seen enough - sign the guy. |
Hasn’t been too outplayed by Wiseman or Ayton, kinda held his own - sign the guy |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
governator
Retired Number
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 25076
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hype wrote: | | Stumpy25 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | So the question is, after one game lol, has he looked good enough to supplant McKinney/Dudley if we need to make a room? or can we sign him to 2-way (can play how many reg season games?) and drop Kostas? |
I actually think dropping Kostas and signing Jones to a 2 way is what eventually is going to happen. No need to keep McKinney either. |
We're hard capped and McKinney has a guaranteed contract so there's zero chance they let him go unless it's through a trade since he'd still be on the books anyways and we wouldn't be able to replace him resulting in an empty wasted roster spot.
The reason they cut Cook is because he was on an unguaranteed contract so it freed that little bit of money back up. Dudley also has a guaranteed contract so it's the same situation as McKinney.
Beyond a trade happening we will only have 2 roster spots until the end of the season with Jones temporarily at least taking one with his current 10 day contract. It's why the Lakers are not making any panic moves because the last thing you want to happen is miss out on a possible much better player down the road the bit.
It's why many here were satisfied with the Jones signing as if you take a step back and look at the big picture it was the smart move to make currently imo. |
We have one more open spot? Can sign another prorated min... and keep D.Jones? Or we have to trade 2 for 1 to open that 2nd spot? I’m lost with this whole capped hard |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leking006
Star Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2018
Posts: 6339
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Looks like he already learned Vogel def schemes in just 2 games, what harrell is having a hard time for 36 games. I like the way he contested shots in those 2 games, he cant block it all but definitely changes them alot. Also he knows how to take advantage of verticality rule. He contest those shots without fouling them. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leking006
Star Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2018
Posts: 6339
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Jones can do what McGee can. But Jones is stronger and more active defender and also has a soft touch inside the paint. He also doesn't rattle when he get the ball inside the paint and he knows what to do. With AD mentoring him out there, I think he will become a better player, If Lakers will not sign him, I think they will regret it. He's the most fit available big man to the Lakers. I dont think they can get another better fit than him now. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I have been Intrigued with Damian Jones, he is a much better player to invest in then Kostas |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
King Randle
Star Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2014
Posts: 7313
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| leking006 wrote: | | Jones can do what McGee can. But Jones is stronger and more active defender and also has a soft touch inside the paint. He also doesn't rattle when he get the ball inside the paint and he knows what to do. With AD mentoring him out there, I think he will become a better player, If Lakers will not sign him, I think they will regret it. He's the most fit available big man to the Lakers. I dont think they can get another better fit than him now. |
Absolutely...he's everything they need but Rob might think he needs a vet hence the Whiteside and McGee interest. I would stay with Jones as well. One thing to watch tonight....you'll see Jones come over and try to block shots as he's supposed to. It's going to fall on the weakside defender whether it be Kief, Kuz or Trez to screen out Jone's man so he doesn't get the board and the put back. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Stumpy25
Star Player
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
Posts: 1314
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| King Randle wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Jones can do what McGee can. But Jones is stronger and more active defender and also has a soft touch inside the paint. He also doesn't rattle when he get the ball inside the paint and he knows what to do. With AD mentoring him out there, I think he will become a better player, If Lakers will not sign him, I think they will regret it. He's the most fit available big man to the Lakers. I dont think they can get another better fit than him now. |
Absolutely...he's everything they need but Rob might think he needs a vet hence the Whiteside and McGee interest. I would stay with Jones as well. One thing to watch tonight....you'll see Jones come over and try to block shots as he's supposed to. It's going to fall on the weakside defender whether it be Kief, Kuz or Trez to screen out Jone's man so he doesn't get the board and the put back. |
Jones and AD could be a terrifying ordeal for other team's offensive schemes. Let the other guys concentrate on the perimeter and funnel drives to the middle. This is what made the Lakers such an incredible defensive team last year. Don't understand why they tinkered with that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
King Randle
Star Player
Joined: 21 Jul 2014
Posts: 7313
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Stumpy25 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Jones can do what McGee can. But Jones is stronger and more active defender and also has a soft touch inside the paint. He also doesn't rattle when he get the ball inside the paint and he knows what to do. With AD mentoring him out there, I think he will become a better player, If Lakers will not sign him, I think they will regret it. He's the most fit available big man to the Lakers. I dont think they can get another better fit than him now. |
Absolutely...he's everything they need but Rob might think he needs a vet hence the Whiteside and McGee interest. I would stay with Jones as well. One thing to watch tonight....you'll see Jones come over and try to block shots as he's supposed to. It's going to fall on the weakside defender whether it be Kief, Kuz or Trez to screen out Jone's man so he doesn't get the board and the put back. |
I’m 100% with you there.
Jones and AD could be a terrifying ordeal for other team's offensive schemes. Let the other guys concentrate on the perimeter and funnel drives to the middle. This is what made the Lakers such an incredible defensive team last year. Don't understand why they tinkered with that. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LakersRGolden
Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002
Posts: 7922
Location: Lake Forest
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I have been Intrigued with Damian Jones, he is a much better player to invest in then Kostas |
Wouldn't really say we're investing much in Kostas. He's the 7th string center behind Gasol/Trez/AD/Kieff/Jones/Cacok. They're just letting him ride out the rest of his 2-way which ends this summer.
Unless you can identify a 2-way contract eligible player worth taking a look at there's nothing there worth thinking about. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leking006
Star Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2018
Posts: 6339
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I also like the way Jones moves in the offensive end, he always in the move, maybe because he got used to it when playing with the warriors. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
