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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject:

I wish I could believe that, but Phil's rotations are as unpredictable as sunny days in Seattle.

The only reason I think Luke got no PT last night is because LO wasn't in early foul trouble.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject:

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Only one more year of his non shootin, non defendin, unathletic, garbage namesake havin a**. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end to the Luke Walton era in LA.

Boooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!


Unless Mitch extends him again. WTF was that?

I am just praying he doesn't go brain dead again and extend Vujacic. That would be not learning from your mistakes.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject:

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It's a good thing he picked Luke over Jumaine. Couldn't have used Jumaine this year at all.


Maybe the Bobs didn't want Luke, either.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject:

With phil ,we cant celebreate too early. He hasnt had a stable rotation all year. He play people whou shouldnt play, and doesnt play the guys who have proven they CAN contribute.. Phil and his Zen ways :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject:

Luke was on a new contract and was not available for trade.

Really, it came down to is Jumain > Green + 2nd round pick?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
It's a good thing he picked Luke over Jumaine. Couldn't have used Jumaine this year at all.


Right. It was Luke and not Jumaine that actually guarded 2s, 3s and 4s last season, made open shots and grabbed rebounds last season. Whew! So glad we made the right choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject:

I thought Luke had a great basketball mind?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject:

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Nothing was figured out.

They just played defense. The difference was the TO and points of TO's. Lakers dominated them through forcing TO's.

That's team defense and what this team needs to do to make the playoffs.

Whenever these guys play good sound team defense they are a good team. When they don't, they can lose to anyone.


wolf do you watch subsitution patterns....it seems that most people unlike you pay attention

PJ's lineup's have improved as of late. No Luke, starting Cook over Kwame, Ronny is in the rotation....this created defense, not the other way around, lol
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject:

No matter what you guys are saying, I still have faith in Luke. I think Luke has had a tough year. He was a very good complimentary player that benefited a lot from Shaq post plays. Now that Shaq's gone and Kobe's in, Luke doesn't compliment as well with Kobe since they are both more on the perimeter. The issue for him right now seems to be that he's struggling with his shots, and losing his confidence. But his passing skills and team-oriented play is good for the team. He can still be effective, hopefully soon.
Another thing is that Phil's sub patterns never make any sense but I think there's always a purpose behind them. I think he tries to get even the 12th men ready for action at anytime by giving him playing time like a couple of valuable minutes. I found that from the past like Lue, Pargo, Rush, Luke, and now Byunm and Green, that somehow his bench players seems to always be ready and respond well even though they were pretty much un-established players.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject:

Dude they won because they played Orlando
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject:

datniggbstyle wrote:
The decision to keep Luke Walton over Jumaine Jones was strictly stupid. Waltons knowledge of the triangle has no bearing if he is only having a negative impact on the game, both offensively and defensively. Jumaine should have been retained and we could have one 3 or more games this year. He provided hustle, smarts, offensive rebounding, and a steady jumpshot. Perfect team player. Phil once again getting rid of a player he has already pre-judged.(Ruben Patterson) THATS RACIST. hopefully he can be resigned in the summer for the LLE


I don't know if i t's racist, but I agree about Phil and pre-juding.

Tex Winter knows the triangle, and we can't run him out there! Knowledge of the tri, in and of itself, is in now way a replacement for SKILL. Must go hand in hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject:

Zen takes time
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject:

datniggbstyle wrote:
The decision to keep Luke Walton over Jumaine Jones was strictly stupid.




Luke was on a new contract and was not available for trade.

Don't let the CBA facts get in the way of your rant. Luke couldn't be traded, Jones could.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject:

Luke shouldn't have been resigned.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject:

Luke is awesome when he's the 4th/5th best payer on the floor because when that happens all he has to do is pass to the better players.

On this team he actually has to contribute in ways he can't -- shooting, rebounding, defending.

He's not going to get any PT for the next two years. He's a waste of money...for now.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject:

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datniggbstyle wrote:
The decision to keep Luke Walton over Jumaine Jones was strictly stupid.




[i]Luke was on a new contract.....


Luke's new contract was what was strictly stupid. It never should've happened.

Besides I think they made the decision to keep him over J.J. when they extended him.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject:

LOL, remember all the talks before the season started about Luke being our initiator, Luke starting, Luke being a major asset to the team, etc.?...Now it looks as if he holds very little value. Very disappointing after he was looking good his first couple games back...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject:

and whats with the people at staple center yelling out his name when he enters the game? do they not watch the games? wtf?

dude is garbage, i hope they trade him as an expiring contract next season.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject:

LakerLegend wrote:
I thought Luke had a great basketball mind?

Unfortunately, he lacks SKILLS!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
Nothing was figured out.

They just played defense. The difference was the TO and points of TO's. Lakers dominated them through forcing TO's.

That's team defense and what this team needs to do to make the playoffs.

Whenever these guys play good sound team defense they are a good team. When they don't, they can lose to anyone.


wolf do you watch subsitution patterns....it seems that most people unlike you pay attention

PJ's lineup's have improved as of late. No Luke, starting Cook over Kwame, Ronny is in the rotation....this created defense, not the other way around, lol

You mean like putting that lineup he put in the 4th?

Brian Cook is one of our worst defenders. Yet he is starting. Did you see the defense to begin with? It was much better even with Cook in there. They were pressuring and playing team defense. By team defense, I mean clogging the paint and not allowing a guy to just get layups. Also doubling at fullcourt and getting steals. That's all you can do with this team. All you can ask is what I should say.

I mean it's not like they have an anchor or someone other than Kobe who single handidly can change the game defensively. Maybe Kwame and George once in a while but overall it comes down to how they apply pressure and whether they can clog up the paint as a team.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
datniggbstyle wrote:
The decision to keep Luke Walton over Jumaine Jones was strictly stupid.




Luke was on a new contract and was not available for trade.

Don't let the CBA facts get in the way of your rant. Luke couldn't be traded, Jones could.


The Moment they signed him to a new contract, it was a signaling that Jumaine wasnt in the plans. Which he should have been included in. He was our BEST player off the bench last season. And a top 5 player OVERALL.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject:

Yup. Jumaine Jones > Puke Walton ... come to think of it ... a big pile of turd > Puke Walton
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject:

datniggbstyle wrote:
The decision to keep Luke Walton over Jumaine Jones was strictly stupid. Waltons knowledge of the triangle has no bearing if he is only having a negative impact on the game, both offensively and defensively. Jumaine should have been retained and we could have one 3 or more games this year. He provided hustle, smarts, offensive rebounding, and a steady jumpshot. Perfect team player. Phil once again getting rid of a player he has already pre-judged.(Ruben Patterson) THATS RACIST. hopefully he can be resigned in the summer for the LLE


racist? really? :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject:

B_Rabbit1212 wrote:
They should call Luke Alton, because theres no W when he plays.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
Nothing was figured out.

They just played defense. The difference was the TO and points of TO's. Lakers dominated them through forcing TO's.

That's team defense and what this team needs to do to make the playoffs.

Whenever these guys play good sound team defense they are a good team. When they don't, they can lose to anyone.


Well...Walton is awful defensively...that's something.
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