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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:55 pm    Post subject: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

kobe could play the 1-3 and lebron could play the 1-4. both with elite defense. is there any 2/3 combo in history that would have theoretically complimented each other better?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

They would have been good but I imagine the ego would get in the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:39 pm    Post subject:

Hard to think they wouldn't have been the greatest duo ever but I do firmly believe Shaq and Kobe were the greatest so I'll say the 2nd best duo of all time.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

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They would have been good but I imagine the ego would get in the way.


I think Lebron would acquiesce. Especially if he came on board as a rookie. Plus is game despite his scoring proficiency still leans towards being a passer. I think you might as well shut down the league if those two were together.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:19 pm    Post subject:

Jordan and Pippen complemented each other well.
They even sometimes complimented each other.
Tmac and Grant Hill could have been something if not for injuries.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject:

Always wanted Kobe to play with an elite wing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:02 am    Post subject:

I had this fantasy during the 2010 offseason— Bynum and Artest for LeBron.

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Imagine LeBron in the triangle.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

jonnybravo wrote:
J.C. Smith wrote:
They would have been good but I imagine the ego would get in the way.


I think Lebron would acquiesce. Especially if he came on board as a rookie. Plus is game despite his scoring proficiency still leans towards being a passer. I think you might as well shut down the league if those two were together.


I think Lebron would have to let Kobe do his thing in the fourth. But I think the big problem would be that Lebron and Kobe both need the ball in their hands. And Lebron would be in the same position that Kobe was with Shaq. I'm not sure you can have a young potential GOAT who would be content with playing a second fiddle for very long.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:29 am    Post subject:

Bron you take the first 3 quarters, Kobe will handle the fourth
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:13 am    Post subject:

Man, woulda been a better version of Bron-DWade/Kyrie combo but who the FMVP go to
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject:

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Man, woulda been a better version of Bron-DWade/Kyrie combo but who the FMVP go to


will probably go to bron as he will be better "numbers" ..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:58 am    Post subject:

Prime Kobe was good and prime Lebron was good. Luckily we got the prime Kobe years.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:23 pm    Post subject:

You have one player who could do proven pippen/jordan jobs well.
Then you add another bulldog who is better than Pippen.
Then you asked how good they would have been.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

J.C. Smith wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
J.C. Smith wrote:
They would have been good but I imagine the ego would get in the way.


I think Lebron would acquiesce. Especially if he came on board as a rookie. Plus is game despite his scoring proficiency still leans towards being a passer. I think you might as well shut down the league if those two were together.


I think Lebron would have to let Kobe do his thing in the fourth. But I think the big problem would be that Lebron and Kobe both need the ball in their hands. And Lebron would be in the same position that Kobe was with Shaq. I'm not sure you can have a young potential GOAT who would be content with playing a second fiddle for very long.


Good points but I just think these guys are too good, with too much basketball IQ and GOAT level competitive drive that they'd find a way to make it work.

I remember seeing on Instagram and someone posted an image of Kobe/LBJ in Lakers unis as teammates and Lebron replied "Wouldn't even be fair". It echoed my sentiments.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:04 pm    Post subject:

THey would have found a way to win. I think the biggest reason why Kobe's body finally fell apart (besides him not getting enough rest/recovery) was that he had to bear so much of the playmaking responsibilities + creating his own shot. Would have been great to have an elite playmaker/point guard to ease the burden on him.

Instead Kobe had to play with guys like Fisher and other PGs with zero playmaking ability.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:07 am    Post subject:

Bruh.. they’d win like 7-8 rings without a doubt at min. If egos were maintained.

All Kobe would have to focus on is scoring and defense. Lebron facilitating and driving putting pressure in the paint. It would be over lol

I wonder what some rosters would realistically look like structured around them $$$ wise and fit
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject:

Unstoppable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject:

prime kobe and prime gerald wallace would have been sick. Bron and Kobe would have been unfair.

My dream duo was kobe and TD
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:37 pm    Post subject:

Woulda been like Lebron and Dwade but the steroid version. Basically unbeatable barring injuries
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:42 pm    Post subject:

Prime Kobe, prime Shaq, and prime T-Mac almost happened
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject:

Barry Seal wrote:
Prime Kobe, prime Shaq, and prime T-Mac almost happened

That was during the 2000 season right? I remember seeing where Jerry wanted him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
prime kobe and prime gerald wallace would have been sick. Bron and Kobe would have been unfair.

My dream duo was kobe and TD


I wanted KG. Although the intensity of the both of them combined would wilt their teammates.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: how good would have a prime kobe and prime LBJ have been?

nomoreshaq wrote:
kobe could play the 1-3 and lebron could play the 1-4. both with elite defense. is there any 2/3 combo in history that would have theoretically complimented each other better?


Assuming they can put egos aside, and completely mesh? They'd be the greatest duo of all time. You talking about Kobe who is just slightly below MJ, however Lebron is way above Pippen. Somewhere in the multi-verse, Kobe and Bron racking up chips.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject:

dcastillo wrote:
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Prime Kobe, prime Shaq, and prime T-Mac almost happened

That was during the 2000 season right? I remember seeing where Jerry wanted him.


I don't recall that being possible when T-Mac was in his prime. But I do recall rumors of JW moving Nick or Eddie on draft night. T-Mac's prime would not have happened being on a stacked team with Shaq and Kobe. T-Mac wasn't even T-Mac next to Vince Carter. He blew up the moment he left Vince.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:03 pm    Post subject:

dcastillo wrote:
Barry Seal wrote:
Prime Kobe, prime Shaq, and prime T-Mac almost happened

That was during the 2000 season right? I remember seeing where Jerry wanted him.


No. It was right before the draft for T-Mac. Jerry scouted him and he had an insane workout. The deal would have basically been trading Eddie Jones for him in the draft. But ownership didn’t agree with developing another out of high school prospect on a team with Shaq.

Man….and T-Mac was basically projected as a better scoring Pippen. He would have fit in perfectly. A ball handling forward that can also score from anywhere, and didn’t need to demand the ball. He would have been an incredible fit. 2003 being his best scoring year means we kick the Spurs ass and go on a 4 peat.

Fisher
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McGrady
Horry
Shaq

Personality wise, it would have been a great fit too. McGrady probably would have been able to keep it together with Kobe and Shaq, while Kobe would push him harder to be great.

Here is McGrady himself talking about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zgly9vnC2gY
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