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LakerJosh Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Get him! |
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Michlake Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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mike_dee23 wrote: | We're talking about the same Jon Barry who is the same type of player Sasha is? Except Sasha already plays better defense and is a good fit in the tri? No. The Lakers need a guy who can score - Penny or Jackson. |
Better Defense? Maybe we are talking about a different Sasha. |
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Luke Star Player
Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 5004 Location: Deep Europe
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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We have JJ exception : we could claim him off the waivers and he would play with us .
He'd cost only 3-400 K to the Lakers. |
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TACH Retired Number
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 28461 Location: Chillin on the Delaware.. from the Jersey Side
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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mike_dee23 wrote: | We're talking about the same Jon Barry who is the same type of player Sasha is? Except Sasha already plays better defense and is a good fit in the tri? No. The Lakers need a guy who can score - Penny or Jackson. |
You think Sasha is better than Jon Barry?? |
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LakersInFour Star Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 6725 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | The Lakers could definitely use another shooter. |
Another? You mean "A" shooter. LOL. I wasn't aware that we had a shooter. _________________ "It’s like going to the Getty and standing in front of Van Gogh’s Irises while some schmuck next to you critiques individual brush strokes. Just shut up already. The more you talk, the more you embarrass yourself." |
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sodapoppenski Star Player
Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 7364 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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qreus-76 wrote: | wow. who do you cut for him? |
Kwame |
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jmac78 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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TACH wrote: | mike_dee23 wrote: | We're talking about the same Jon Barry who is the same type of player Sasha is? Except Sasha already plays better defense and is a good fit in the tri? No. The Lakers need a guy who can score - Penny or Jackson. |
You think Sasha is better than Jon Barry?? |
Barry is smarter and has much more experience (including playoffs) than Sasha. He's also an unathletic tenacious defender. |
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Bradyda-LeSueur Starting Rotation
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 292 Location: Highland, UT
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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What about waiving Green, Slava, and maybe even DG and picking up Jim Jackson, the Brunson dude, and Jon Barry...or change Brunson to Spree...that wouldn't be bad either.... |
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KOBESTHETRUTH Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: sign him now!!! |
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please sign him like rite this minute!!! please Mitch!!!!!!
perfect fit!! |
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raffi LG Contributor
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to see him in P&G. |
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mike_dee23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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jmac78 wrote: | TACH wrote: | mike_dee23 wrote: | We're talking about the same Jon Barry who is the same type of player Sasha is? Except Sasha already plays better defense and is a good fit in the tri? No. The Lakers need a guy who can score - Penny or Jackson. |
You think Sasha is better than Jon Barry?? |
Barry is smarter and has much more experience (including playoffs) than Sasha. He's also an unathletic tenacious defender. |
Well, I'm not going to say Sasha is better, but Jon Barry hasn't played much on a team that is worse than the Lakers. If this were a championship run, then maybe I'd pick him up. But if the Lakers success hinges on whether they sign a washed-up gunner, than I think we're in deep trouble. I say stick with the guy who is developing - nicely, if I may add... |
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mm708 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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He's a streky shooter who can't play defense. |
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B_P Star Player
Joined: 28 May 2003 Posts: 8598 Location: (physically) West Seattle (heart) Venice Beach
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we better sign somebody.
This is exactly what PJ was asking for - a veteran guard. Christmas in March!
And now, we've got three to choose from! And all 3 fit the bill in different ways, but I think ALL would be effective and productive.
My preference, in order:
1. Jim Jackson - he's the best shooter, the strongest defender. He's also the most rested and hungry to play... unless PHX knows something we don't.
2. Jon Barry - Streaky 3's and very unselfish. Love his scrappiness and hustle. Him, Devean and Ronny off the bench could be another sort of "Bench Mob."
3. Penny - If he's healthy, he's actually my 2nd choice. Super-passer and a very underrated shooter. He also has a very effective post-up game. I would love to see him run a fastbreak with Kobe on the wing. I don't know about his D, though.
The best thing is that they're all smart, "high B-Ball IQ" type of players who just know how to play. They can all catch-and-shoot, or shoot off-the-dribble (so they shouldn't struggle to find ways to score in the T) and they're all very unselfish passers. Defense might be a concern with Penny, but hey, you can't have everything.
We really can't go wrong with any of them.
Let's just hope get one!!
-- Oh damn, I forgot about Rick Brunson! He'd be a great fit as well! He's easily the most steady and the safest of the four. He'd probably fit in the easiest - personality/chemistry-wise. _________________ Everything. Changes.
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144461 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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LakersInFour wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | The Lakers could definitely use another shooter. |
Another? You mean "A" shooter. LOL. I wasn't aware that we had a shooter. |
I mean another besides Turiaf. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Bergamotichek Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I feel dumber after having read this entire thread. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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JD wrote: | I feel dumber after having read this entire thread. |
It's about time you join up with the rest of us! _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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kups Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Oh snap! Jon Barry waived by Rockets. |
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KobeButler wrote: | http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1277/rockets_waive_jon_barry/
Sign him mitch! sign him! sign him!
can knock down open shots.
veteran leadership.
really good passer.
DO IT MITCH! |
A big CO-SIGNED to that. Been asking for Jon Barry since this past summer. _________________ #2 Lonzo
#28 Derrick White, Jordan Bell, Deonte Burton |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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NestT wrote: | Michlake wrote: | He is better than Sasha |
And the Earth rotates around the Sun. |
Everyone dies _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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LA_Lakers_Rule Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 19482 Location: The X-Files
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Can't we cut Mckie and put another player on the IR ?
It doesn't look like Mckie is making it back anyway... _________________ Rule = win titles
Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers ... |
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RetroNikes Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Barry got waived due to injury. Same reason Profit got released. |
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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not true, he healthy right now.
Quote: | All in all, Barry has missed 37 games this year, mostly due to injury. The last handful of those games saw Barry healthy, but Jeff Van Gundy did not call his number for reasons unknown. |
_________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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Sage_10 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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raffi wrote: | I'd like to see him in P&G. |
We already saw him in P&G he couldn't do it as an outside shooter here, if memory serves. I think Jim Jackson would be a better fit for the Lakers. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Bradyda-LeSueur wrote: | What about waiving Green, Slava, and maybe even DG and picking up Jim Jackson, the Brunson dude, and Jon Barry...or change Brunson to Spree...that wouldn't be bad either.... |
When you say "DG", who do you mean? Devean George? How would adding Jackson, Brunson or Barry and subtracting Devean make us better? |
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lakers2626 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Barry is a good fit just because he's a smart player, and would probably pick up the system fairly quickly. |
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Pappy Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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and any of these guys is going to change the reality ofthis team? the lakers proved there gonna squeak by another season and see what happends. ther not gonna eat a contract (slava, mckee, etc) and pick up another player to rent for 25 games!
its a hard reality to swallow, but if the org really wanted to improve the team, they wouldve added someone already. dont get your hopes up, havent you've learned anything from Mitch and co? they're trying to save money..not win! |
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