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Sidious
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 Isn't Smush the same guy that couldn't even make a roster spot on other teams. |
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un1bomber
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | It's obvious someone in that locker-room hate each other my guess is Kobe and Smush or George and Odom... |
whats wrong between odom and george? |
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karlmalonefan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| DocK36 wrote: | | KobeButler wrote: | | smush really doesnt want to be here does he? |
I can't wait for the "..talk to Kobe, he's the GM" line. |
 Seriously, what is it with no name point guards who suddenly land a starting job with the Lakers thinking they're suddenly All stars???  |
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karlmalonefan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | It's obvious someone in that locker-room hate each other my guess is Kobe and Smush or George and Odom... |
Doubtful it's kobe and smush. Smush was at All Star weekend with kobe, and they seem to have good chemistry on steals and fast breaks, and kobe has stated that he loves playing with him. I don't think anyone has a problem with Lamar. He seems to be like everyone's big brother on the team. The only people I see LO yelling at during the game are Kwame, and sometimes Mihm...I think it's smush and kwame. Every time kwame screws up, Smush has a fit...did you see smush hitting kwame in the face with the ball on that pass??? I about died laughing and thought "Are you awake now, Kwame?" That was hilarious! |
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Narziss
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| I think you guys are jumping to conclusions. You're taking a quote, probably out of context, and applying fears and paranoia to it. It's certainly not unlike an NBA player to use incorrect terms or bad grammar when answering questions. By team chemistry he could have easily meant "we haven't learned the system well enough to mesh perfectly yet." A message expressed by Kobe and Phil constantly. They just came off another frustrating loss in a bad stretch of the season. They're tired, frustrated and probably without the care or desire to measure every word they choose to speak. |
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OdomX2
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| da ocho wrote: | guys....in 2 years smush isn't going to be on the lakers anymore. this is what we call "limbo".
having said that...the dude is right. there's no team defense and no triangle execution. |
I agree. Smush is just a temporary fill. No reason to get upset over anything he says or does. He'll be clanking dunks in Barcelona next year. |
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KwamesMyGuy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I cant believe how many people are making something out of nothing with this quote.  |
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OdomX2
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| THE_BUTLER_DID_IT wrote: | | I cant believe how many people are making something out of nothing with this quote. |
At best, to blame "spacing" on his game losing flub is ridiculous at best. But again, who cares what this guy says. He'll be a bad memory next year. |
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J.C. Smith
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know what Smush was referring to, but I'll say this much... he DOES have an attitude problem... and we knew that when we brought him in. There is a reason that he went undrafted. There is a reason that Cleveland let him go after he played reasonably well there. The reason is his attitude, it's been chronicled. Smush has played better than expected this season and people have forgotten about this, but he's had several quotes that make you go "huh?" |
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RYZ
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| I suppose it was bad chemistry that made Smush not shorten his dribble and get stripped. |
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2Cleva
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| THE_BUTLER_DID_IT wrote: | | I cant believe how many people are making something out of nothing with this quote. |
Agreed. Actually, I bet its the other way around. Smush calling out people because Kobe can't publically. |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Why do you guys love to hate players?
Smush is right. He wasn't talking about Kobe or any one player in particular. Just the spacing and team togetherness in general.
Neither is consistent. |
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tw-lakbfan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| IMO the team has indeed bad chemistry. It shows especially at the defensive end. The problem with Smush's words is that he is part of the problem. |
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And 1
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | | Smush's problem is that he's a role player that thinks he's a team leader. |
IMO, Smush's problem is that he's a role player trying too hard to step into the leadership vacuum created by the player who announced that he wanted to be a leader but has assumed the position of a role-player.
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PiPisKobesByatch
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | | Smush's problem is that he's a role player that thinks he's a team leader. |
he has fisheritis. i have been saying this to my buddies for a while. it's all gotten to his head. |
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And 1
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| II Cleva wrote: | | THE_BUTLER_DID_IT wrote: | | I cant believe how many people are making something out of nothing with this quote. |
Agreed. Actually, I bet its the other way around. Smush calling out people because Kobe can't publically. |
I started a thread on this the other day.
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=19034&highlight=
I think that Kobe can, and should, call people out.
He just has to be smart about it, which I think he can. |
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vvbandit
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Im sick of Smush, either shut up and play or try and find a job else where. I got a feeling he wont be able to find anything. |
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sodapoppenski
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | | Smush's problem is that he's a role player that thinks he's a team leader. |
True, but I'll take that attitude over being too passive.
Hand-in-hand with thinking he's got some big britches comes a willingness
to shoot the ball, despite playing right next to number 8.
Smush had a handful of good examples last night where other players
(especially on our squad) would have been timid or hesitant.
The man's still quite a bargain. |
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vkewalra
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| ArrOhBee wrote: | | i hate to say it, but we need Mckie back as soon as possible |
I don't hate to say it, we need to pick up Barry. |
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OdomX2
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Why do you guys love to hate players?
Smush is right. He wasn't talking about Kobe or any one player in particular. Just the spacing and team togetherness in general.
Neither is consistent. |
I hate losing. This team is a collection of losers. And Smush' comment was spoken in direct context with the flubbed game loser. |
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And 1
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | | JD wrote: | | Smush's problem is that he's a role player that thinks he's a team leader. |
True, but I'll take that attitude over being too passive.
Hand-in-hand with thinking he's got some big britches comes a willingness
to shoot the ball, despite playing right next to number 8.
Smush had a handful of good examples last night where other players
(especially on our squad) would have been timid or hesitant.
The man's still quite a bargain. |
Agreed.
Though I'm sure that he's not asked to do much, I believe that it's in Smush's nature to try to step up and try to do things he might not be prepared to do.
Rather than just trying to stay in front of his man, Smush is constantly looking for the big steal to make something happen. He gets out of position and the rest is history. |
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PDX_LAKERFAN
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Well no duh!.
When we get to the point when we get chemistry.. you'll be watching the game in the 1st quarter. |
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CrimsonLaker
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| OdomX2 wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Why do you guys love to hate players?
Smush is right. He wasn't talking about Kobe or any one player in particular. Just the spacing and team togetherness in general.
Neither is consistent. |
I hate losing. This team is a collection of losers. And Smush' comment was spoken in direct context with the flubbed game loser. |
exactly, and even when we win Smush always finds a way to take a jab at the team. When Kobe scored 81, smush said "I was hot too, I wanted to show what I could do." Fool, you had 2 1/2 quarters to do so. Night before last he talked about how everyone was happy because they got their touches and shots, he actually smiled. Last night he was talking about chemistry. FOOL, the loss is on you. You should step up like a man and just say "I f-ed up." |
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rebirth
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| uberzev wrote: | Sasha = Cancer
You heard it here first!  |
im gonna agree with you here. he kinda sounds like atkins last year. what is it with our third rate point guards. I dont doubt the chemistry problem, but why go public??
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2Cleva
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| And 1 wrote: | | JD wrote: | | Smush's problem is that he's a role player that thinks he's a team leader. |
IMO, Smush's problem is that he's a role player trying too hard to step into the leadership vacuum created by the player who announced that he wanted to be a leader but has assumed the position of a role-player. |
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