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Gr8testEver Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: OT: Tim Thomas to Phoenix |
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Bystander Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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It was expected, they cleared roster space releasing JJ. |
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Nash will make any average under achiever look like their worth another multi million dollar contract. Tim Thomas is a smart guy. _________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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bambam Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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KobeButler wrote: | Steve Nash will make any average under achiever look like their worth another multi million dollar contract. Tim Thomas is a smart guy. |
yup, i expect him to play well in that system. it will fit him. |
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Showtime_Returns Star Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1730 Location: Somewhere looking for a magic wand
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Thomas is one of the biggest wastes of talent in the NBA. If Nash could make this guy productive on a nightly basis then there's no question he deserves the MVP. |
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Luke Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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It's not only Nash, it's the system... |
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AirKobe8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Their system will allow him to play Center.
They can run with like 4 pgs and a SF, thats a good system. _________________ www.lakersbrasil.com
Fan site made by me and others, dedicated to posting Laker news and articles in portuguese. |
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Gr8testEver Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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AirKobe8 wrote: | Their system will allow him to play Center.
They can run with like 4 pgs and a SF, thats a good system. |
I think Diaw is now the starting center for them, if only we still had Shaq he would get 50 against that small ball team!! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Gr8testEver wrote: | AirKobe8 wrote: | Their system will allow him to play Center.
They can run with like 4 pgs and a SF, thats a good system. |
I think Diaw is now the starting center for them, if only we still had Shaq he would get 50 against that small ball team!! |
Yet, when the Lakers play them, they will still jack up 3's instead of exploiting the weak interior defense. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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PiPisKobesByatch Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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why do the good teams get better.. and the lakers do nothing at all? |
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MIMLaker Franchise Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 10015 Location: Los Angeles/ Alhambra, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, <bleep>.
The only thing theyw ere missing was low-post offense. Granted, Kurt Thomas being injured hurts their defense, but once they get him and possibly Amare back for the stretch run, LOOK OUT.
TT can run and score effectively in the post.
Props to Suns management.
MIM _________________ Keep or Dump Power Rankings (4/12/23):
1 - Bron; 1a - AD; 2 - Reaves; 2a - DLo; 3 - Vando; 4 - Rui; 5 - Shroo; 6 - Christie; 7- Brown; 8 - Gabriel; 9 - Beas; 10 - Bamba; 11- Lonnie |
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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PiPisKobesByatch wrote: | why do the good teams get better.. and the lakers do nothing at all? |
Probably the same reason sorry teams like Bulls of a few years ago and the Clippers couldn't get anyone to sign with them. |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Gr8testEver wrote: | AirKobe8 wrote: | Their system will allow him to play Center.
They can run with like 4 pgs and a SF, thats a good system. |
I think Diaw is now the starting center for them, if only we still had Shaq he would get 50 against that small ball team!! |
Weren't the Heat down by around 30 after a quarter against the Suns just recently? Just checking. |
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Showtime_Returns Star Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1730 Location: Somewhere looking for a magic wand
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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PiPisKobesByatch wrote: | why do the good teams get better.. and the lakers do nothing at all? |
Because the Lakers are more concerned about landing a franchise savior then building a competitive team. I can't fault them on this one though because Tim Thomas on a regular night is Lamar on his worst night. |
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karlmalonefan Star Player
Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 2608 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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lakez34 wrote: | Gr8testEver wrote: | AirKobe8 wrote: | Their system will allow him to play Center.
They can run with like 4 pgs and a SF, thats a good system. |
I think Diaw is now the starting center for them, if only we still had Shaq he would get 50 against that small ball team!! |
Weren't the Heat down by around 30 after a quarter against the Suns just recently? Just checking. | Yeah, I was going to say, maybe the Shaq of 2000-2003, but not the current Shaq. |
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WindConga Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Luke wrote: | It's not only Nash, it's the system... |
A system means nothing in a 3 on 2 fast break. Or when a player penetrates to the hoop, draws the defense in and kicks it out to a wide-open shooter. |
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SHAQ/KOBE=#1 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Thomas is nothing special.
Weak defense, weak rebounding, weak post game, bad attitude...the list goes on and on. |
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8750 Star Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 1591 Location: milan, italy
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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tim thomas is another talent with bad attitude and lack of passion... but in the suns' system he will be another great weapon... because mike d'antoni has created a style beyond traditional roles where every player with some character and athleticism finds opportunities... they don't spend four months to learn the basics of a system... they play a very exciting organized chaos... |
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Socks Franchise Player
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10761 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Mike D is awesome. It boggles my mind why more coaches don't look at the players and build the system around what they have instead of forcing their players into systems they believe in. Yeah, I know it's hard to argue against 9 championships with the triangle, but it's also hard to argue against building your system around your team rather than having the wrong players for your system. |
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lakers0505 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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PiPisKobesByatch wrote: | why do the good teams get better.. and the lakers do nothing at all? |
Because contrary too what he had believed, palyers dont play for the "organizations marque name", they want too play for who is the winner right now and as u've seen with delk,anderson,thomas, they choose what was viweed as the superior team in anderson's case he was an unlucky (bleep), as the rockets got injury riddled. |
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drew4lakers Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I just looked for the article/bulletin and didn't see it, but as has been mentioned, it was expected. But I thought it took longer for a released player to clear waivers?
But maybe since he was bought out, those restrictions don't apply. _________________ BORN REBLE |
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dgrynch Star Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 1095 Location: Somewhere In Uptown
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hell, they needed someone to replace Kurt Thomas who is out 6 to 8 weeks. BTW, Amare is playing full scrimmage 5-on-5 ball now. |
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PrplReign Star Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Socks wrote: | Mike D is awesome. It boggles my mind why more coaches don't look at the players and build the system around what they have instead of forcing their players into systems they believe in. Yeah, I know it's hard to argue against 9 championships with the triangle, but it's also hard to argue against building your system around your team rather than having the wrong players for your system. |
Mike D is Kobe's favorite coach. He got to know him when he was Joe Bryant's teammate in Italy and has always expressed utter respect for Mike's knowledge of the game and his coaching style. _________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3vkwP3GHQ |
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slavavov Star Player
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8288 Location: Santa Monica
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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PrplReign wrote: | Socks wrote: | Mike D is awesome. It boggles my mind why more coaches don't look at the players and build the system around what they have instead of forcing their players into systems they believe in. Yeah, I know it's hard to argue against 9 championships with the triangle, but it's also hard to argue against building your system around your team rather than having the wrong players for your system. |
Mike D is Kobe's favorite coach. He got to know him when he was Joe Bryant's teammate in Italy and has always expressed utter respect for Mike's knowledge of the game and his coaching style. |
Mike D is a good coach. I respect how he coaches the running game and doesn't listen to his colleagues who say that style doesn't work nowadays. He's certainly made it work for the Suns.
Imagine Kobe in Mike D's system, freelancing and doing his thing in the open court, not to mention Nash getting him a lot of easy baskets.
About Tim Thomas, he seems like he'd be redundant with that team. Another complementary perimeter player. The Suns need a couple legit bigs who can rebound, play D, and give them size and a presence inside. That should be all they need once Amare comes back. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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MIMLaker Franchise Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 10015 Location: Los Angeles/ Alhambra, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: |
About Tim Thomas, he seems like he'd be redundant with that team. Another complementary perimeter player. The Suns need a couple legit bigs who can rebound, play D, and give them size and a presence inside. That should be all they need once Amare comes back. |
Beg to differ, slav. 2 years ago, he was primarily an inside player for the Knicks, avergaing 15 points a game. He's 6-10, 240, and has more than few post moves. Granted, he doesn't play D worth a darn, but he can be a legit #2 or #3 go-to-scorer-on-the-floor inside -- maybe not for starter's minutes, but certainly for 15-20 a game.
MIM _________________ Keep or Dump Power Rankings (4/12/23):
1 - Bron; 1a - AD; 2 - Reaves; 2a - DLo; 3 - Vando; 4 - Rui; 5 - Shroo; 6 - Christie; 7- Brown; 8 - Gabriel; 9 - Beas; 10 - Bamba; 11- Lonnie |
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