which kupchak move did you hate the most?

Neverland Ranch Survivor · Sixth Man Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

mine had to be when he traded jumaine jones for a (bleep) second round pick. he traded away our best role player BY FAR last season, then that same player proceeded to drop 31 points on us in a win while playing on one of the worst teams in the league. then afterward, pj shows his stupidity by making a comment about him not knowing how good JJ really was??? this is the same guy who praised JJ last season when he was on his vacation in austrailia for his hustle.

then jj shows his class afterwards by finding kobe and getting his shoes autographed by him.

i cant believe everyone on this board was saying preseason that george had more tri experiance, better defender, more athletic, etc.....

george blows.

roflwtflolomg · Starting Rotation Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 536

jj could actually hit shots, thats why i liked him

Klassix · Star Player Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 1994

I can't think of one Mitch move i actually liked.

Ziggy · Franchise Player Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12717

I agree with you except for the part about George. He has been our best bench player, especially recently.

JJ was my favorite player on the team last season. He was a blue-collar player who brought a lot of heart and effort to the team. I was actually saying before he was traded that he would be our best backup PF, and I still stand by that.

When LO went down at the end of the season, JJ was consistently pulling down double-digits in rebounds. Then in the Summer he went to Pete Newell's Big Man Camp. I thought he would've been a great enforcer for us who could bang down low and still hit those rainbow 3's. He made some great hustle plays on defense too. And he's still young!

I honestly don't think we'll find a better, or even equal player with that 2nd round pick. So I guess you could say we downgraded with that move. Of course, we'll have to see who we get with that pick before judging.

LakersSpirit · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject:

I agree with you, on the Jumaine Jones trade... As far as George is concerned, the jury is still out, in my own mind... I've gone through, I don't know, how many, ups and downs, with George... At his peak performance, I've compared George to a blossoming Shawn Marion...

There are times, however, that I can't wait for a George trade.

During Fox's last 2 years, I recognized that George was as good, or better, than Fox... When George was given a big chance, however, and put in place of Fox, during our last championship year, against Sacto, George's performance just sank under the pressure... His game just mysteriously disappears.

Anyway, sorry to get off the track... I agree with your basic thoughts, about Jumaine.
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LakersSpirit · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject:

I think Kwame needs to go to Pete Newell's Big Man Camp... Anything that will teach him to play like a bigman, consistently.
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DuncanIdaho · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject:

Trading Shaquille O'Neal for a bag of freakin peanuts. At least he could have demanded Wade.

Neverland Ranch Survivor · Sixth Man Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

im my mind, george is husting these last 30 games to get another contract. what other reason is there? he just started playing hard out of the blue one day a couple of weeks ago. its no coincedence that he played this same stunt in his contract year last time. i hate the way he pulls up for jumpers on fast breaks, and how he runs across screens 1 foot inside the 3 point line and jacks up a shot, only for it to clank off the rim, and for the other team to get a long rebound and lead a fast break.

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8750 · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject:

selecting vujacic and not chris duhon...
and not trading shaq one year before...

P.K. · Retired Number Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 29726

which kupchak move did you hate the most?

when he moved into Jerry West's office - it's been pretty much downhill since then
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:13 am Post subject:

JJ was cool and all, but George plays a little thing called "defense."

Clue in bro, and settle the heck down.

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lakers0505 · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701

god. this is like a needle in a hay stack.

, F u Mitch.F u Jim. F u Snaq.

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Mailman04 · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 904

The worst move in my book, and he has had plenty, is the failure to add a veteran guard, Flip or someone, at the trading deadline knowing McKie wasns't coming back and if he did he couldn't help. He didn't help early when he was healthy so why would he help now. Cleveland got Flip for basically nothing and Mitch couldn't even do that despite Phil saying they needed a G.

B_P · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:31 am Post subject:

The one move that Mitch made that still just doesn't make sense to me is asking Toronto to draft Kareem Rush over Tayshaun Prince.

Prince, a versitle, all-around, long-armed defensive-minded SF with a great handle and a high B-Ball IQ. He's from LA. He's a senior and had great coaching at Kentucky. He has all the required triangle skills. It's a no-brainer. We even worked him out and really liked him. Perfect fit.

But instead, Mitch wants the one-dimensional, streaky shooter, Kareem Rush. Not a strong ball handler. Not really known for his defense. Not even an athletic freak. But, because Mitch rated him as a possible lottery pick, and because he kept dropping down the draft boards, Mitch quickly forgets about Prince, and asks Toronto to take Rush.

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uberzev · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:31 am Post subject:

Shaq Trade
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Every time I read a thread like this, I remember how much I hate Mitch

The Dagger · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:40 am Post subject:

Not trading Stay Puff to Utah for a second round draft pick. We would've choked to chickens with one hand. Lard ass would be hatin life living in Utah and we would've had instant cap-room to start re-building around Kobe. There might have even been a chance to get Kirilenko for Snaq O'meal.

Also giving Butler away for a free-agent stiff.

JJ was a tierrible trade. Just flat out gave him away.

Losing a lottery pick to Boston after he screwed over the Glove. Should've smoothed things out with GP - what was he thinking.

Actually now that I think about it, I pretty much hate everything about Mitch Buttcake.
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