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Scherm
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| He knows the Triangle, having played for Jim Cleamons in Dallas. |
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uberzev
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Even last year when Jackson was actually in the Suns rotation he was terrible. He had a -9.8 NET On Court/Off Court effect which is about as bad as it gets.
In comparison our worst current NET effect player in the rotation is Kwame with -6.9.
Jackson is finished.
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Bergamotichek
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OK... so let's say Jackson signs for the Lakers... are all you people that rip Mitch, going to give him props for the signing?
What if JJ sucks?
My money's on, those same people will be ripping Mitch for signing Jim Jackson. |
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gdballa03
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | angel wrote: | | The Suns let him go, because they know he's done. |
This Laker bench is done/pathetic so what difference does it make? |
Seriously, if we get JJ, he won't hurt us...regardless of his stats, age, whatever. I think he could actually help. Why do people complain about getting him, it's not like our team has "chemistry" right now anyway. :roll: |
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Laker_Dynasty
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | OK... so let's say Jackson signs for the Lakers... are all you people that rip Mitch, going to give him props for the signing?
What if JJ sucks?
My money's on, those same people will be ripping Mitch for signing Jim Jackson. |
Yup! I'll give him his props, JD. But at the same time, I won't necessarily be singing his praises either. I feel like it would be a last ditch effort to save face before the off-season. Jimmy Jackson could provide that consistent bench player this team needs (assuming he's injury free).
What bothers me is that more than half the season is gone and if a player like Jimmy Jackson were to be signed and prove to be the most consistent off the bench, then what does that say about the rest of the team that Kupchak has put together?
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Laker_Dynasty
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | No way in theeeee hell JJ can learn the tri between now, and the end of the season to the point that he can run with this team... |
Shoes, didn't JJ play in some "semblence" of the triangle while he was in Dallas under Jim Cleamons?
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Mailman04
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| I won't rip Mitch if he signs Jackson, I want him to. I don't expect much from Jackson so I'm not going to blast him if he doesn't do much. I do think Jackson can help. The way I look at it, Slava isn't helping so why not try to get something out of Jackson? He is another body who can occasionally get hot and cause some problems for the D. |
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angel
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: |
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The triangle is know for reviving dying careers. I suppose some kind of change has to happen. It may only be for this season, but I wouldn't be opposed to waiving Slava and signing someone.
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BigEvil
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Bingo!
Thats the key for me. If the Triangle was able to make Brian Shaw, Ron Harper, and others decent contributers, why not give JJ a try?
What do you have to lose? If he doesn't work out, you bench him the rest of the way, leave him off the playoff roster. It's not going to cost much.
Geez, sometimes I feel like I gotta' hand out valium around here... |
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Kobe2Clark
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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The pathetic thing is that a 35 year old, waiver wire player would be (at worst) our 4th best player if he joined the team 
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itstdt
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd rather have Penny than JJ though |
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angel
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Penny has no triangle experience. He has played four games this season. I don't see much hope that he can help the Lakers.
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CBaller8
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah I'd rather have Penny as well but whatever not like any of these guys is gonna get us anywhere far. |
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itstdt
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| JJ is more like a SF more than a backcourt player though... we have Odom/George/Walton at SF... Penny is more like a SG recently, but he played PG in Orlando before... since PJ said triangle offense should not be a problem, Penny should be a better fit... |
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OshadowO
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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why are people so against signing jj or even penny. We have nothing to lose. At worst we'll miss the playoffs, which we're already on track to do. At best we'll actually give the team a shot to make it.
Its not like we'll give the guy a five year 20 million dollar deal.
Fact is this team needs help bad. If we can get someone who can even remotely threaten smush "no D" parker's minutes, I say that in of itself would be a success :\ |
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Jacko
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Right now......we just need someone can play some basketball!!!! 
I think Jim definitely can help this struggle Lakers......... |
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kells1220
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Lamar wrote: | | The pathetic thing is that a 35 year old, waiver wire player would be (at worst) our 4th best player if he joined the team |
Sad but true. Preach! |
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Sister Golden Hair wrote: | JJ would have been great 3-4 years ago. His game has gone south. Frankly, at this point, getting JJ will be strictly a PR move to give the fans the appearance of the FO actually going forth and doing something. It's a little too late for that. They foolishly let those ending contracts rot, and die on the vine.
It really is inexcusable. Has the FO even gotten an entire game's worth of minutes combined from its last two MLE signings?
As I've said many times before: at a certain point, bad luck becomes a function of incompetence.
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do you really have that high of opinion on this laker team? when you actually look at the crap that surrounds kobe, neither jackson or penny looks that bad. at least they're veterans who you know they can shoot in in-game situations.
hardaway/smush
bryant/jackson/hardaway
jackson/odom/cook
odom/cook/turiaf/brown
mihm/brown/bynum
isn't bad at all and much better than what we got right now.
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PiPisKobesByatch
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| yay.. so this is another player who we "contacted" but won't end up acquiring. cool. |
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ShowtimeDynasty_24/7
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Release McKie and Slava.
Sign Penny and JJ with the remaining MLE, which is like 1.7 million I belive? |
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Mr. EiGhTy-OnE
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SIGN PENNY!
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Exick
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | hardaway/smush
bryant/jackson/hardaway
jackson/odom/cook
odom/cook/turiaf/brown
mihm/brown/bynum |
Are you (bleep)ing drunk, dude? You think Penny freaking Hardaway would start?
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Exick wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | hardaway/smush
bryant/jackson/hardaway
jackson/odom/cook
odom/cook/turiaf/brown
mihm/brown/bynum |
Are you (bleep)ing drunk, dude? You think Penny freaking Hardaway would start? |
thats the same thing i think every game about jackson starting smush, hmm... |
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ShowtimeDynasty_24/7
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't believe he was saying they would start, but that they could play in in game situations. |
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Trevacious
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | at least they're veterans who you know they can shoot in in-game situations. |
Actually, we Don't know if they can shoot anymore. We haven't seen them play in a long time. They aren't likely to make the dumb mistakes of the young'uns, but if they can't hit the open shot... |
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