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Boybees Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: What's our record since Laron Profit went down? |
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Since it's been pointed out that we in fact traded Caron for him and not for Kwame after all.
_________________ Jerry Buss made the Lakers into the crown jewel of the NBA. |
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Cardom Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 12551 Location: UCLA
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: |
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we've been about the same, but we've been losing more close games vs. crappy teams. also, when he got injured we were getting more stable. |
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ishi331 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Laron was our 6th man...then he got injured....just our luck. |
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Bergamotichek Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: Re: What's our record since Laron Profit went down? |
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Boybees wrote: | Since it's been pointed out that we in fact traded Caron for him and not for Kwame after all.
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So this is the latest twisting of words? That we traded for Profit and not Kwame?
Does reading comprehension fail you?
Trade was for BOTH Kwame AND Laron. |
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mike_kb Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Re: What's our record since Laron Profit went down? |
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JD wrote: | Boybees wrote: | Since it's been pointed out that we in fact traded Caron for him and not for Kwame after all.
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So this is the latest twisting of words? That we traded for Profit and not Kwame?
Does reading comprehension fail you?
Trade was for BOTH Kwame AND Laron. |
Dude, it was a joke. |
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skumbag Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Laron out is hurting us big time IMO. A healthy Laron today would definitely not only run the tri better, but would alleviate some pressure from Kobe (as Laron was mimicking Kobe's role pretty well before Laron went down). |
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Exick Site Staff
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 15880
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I was going to post this in JD's sticky thread, but I'll post it here instead. The Lakers are 2 games under .500 since his injury, and obviously 2 games over .500 before it. It's difficult to say what his impact would have been, but I sure would have liked to see him suited up. _________________ Game recognize game, Granddad. - Riley Freeman, The Boondocks |
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Agar5 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I don't think that is the way to look at it Boybees. Before Laron got injured he gave us valuable minutes that I don't think many people thought he would be able to contribute. Weren't people saying the Lakers were going to cut him before the season started. After a few games of seeing him in action I remember people on here were calling him Kobe's stunt devil or something like that.
I looked at our record with him in the line-up. 14-11. He would have had an impact on some of the games were we needed more energy. |
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Mailman04 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I think he would have made a difference against teams such as Portland, Boston and Atlanta. one more healthy body to have played could have meant a lot of difference in the close losses. That is why I wanted a veteran guard at the deadline instead of Slava. Flip proved last night you don't have to be a star to help a new team. |
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RYZ Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Look at it this way: Every minute Profit was on the floor was a minute Sasha was off of it. |
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jwbrown77 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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RYZ wrote: | Look at it this way: Every minute Profit was on the floor was a minute Sasha was off of it. |
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vkewalra Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I don't remember too many jarringly stupid losses before he went out, but there have definitely been some since. I don't think the record's been that greatly affected, but then I haven't looked at how tough the schedule was before and after. He was one of the smarter players on the floor and somebody I'd rather have on the floor in crunch-time over Smush and Sasha.
One thing I don't understand is asking a question that is assumed rhetorical, but elicits an ambiguous response, then putting a laughing smiley after it. Is that supposed to solidify the point? Can a point that wasn't made be solidified? |
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laker4life Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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What is the record since kobe's 81????
You're right that the lost of Profit hurt. However, as the GM, shouldn't Kupcake make an effort to recognize this lost and try to address it??? |
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kells1220 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Who would of thought that Laron Profit was so important? I miss him he was actually a smart player who played defense. I was comforted when he still played because when he was on the floor and Kobe was one the bench I didn't realize that Kobe wasn't in the game. I was relaxed and at eased compared to now when I get so worked up. |
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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yah those 11 minutes, 4 pts half an assist and 2 boards has really killed us. Ever notice that Laker fans savior is the one guy hurt, or not signed? |
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kells1220 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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He's better than Sasha, Devin Green, Luke Walton, Kwame... need I go on. Yeah he didn't play a whole lot of minutes but I belive that he was still learning the triangle like these other guys and by now he would've been more productive. |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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laker4life wrote: | What is the record since kobe's 81????
You're right that the lost of Profit hurt. However, as the GM, shouldn't Kupchak make an effort to recognize this lost and try to address it??? |
With a 15-man roster, that's difficult to do. |
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vkewalra Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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OdomX2 wrote: | Yah those 11 minutes, 4 pts half an assist and 2 boards has really killed us. Ever notice that Laker fans savior is the one guy hurt, or not signed? |
I like how people (referring to nobody in particular) talk about the importance of intangibles and team chemistry, but when it comes down to it the only thing they care about is statistics. I also like how so many people agree we need a guard that plays solid defense and hits open shots, but discredit the loss of a player that fits that description. |
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kells1220 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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vkewalra wrote: | OdomX2 wrote: | Yah those 11 minutes, 4 pts half an assist and 2 boards has really killed us. Ever notice that Laker fans savior is the one guy hurt, or not signed? |
I like how people (referring to nobody in particular) talk about the importance of intangibles and team chemistry, but when it comes down to it the only thing they care about is statistics. I also like how so many people agree we need a guard that plays solid defense and hits open shots, but discredit the loss of a player that fits that description. |
So true. |
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maddprophet Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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any chance at resigning him this offseason?
would most likely come cheap.
i'd like to see him in the p&g next year, he's already ahead of the curve with the tri.
DO IT MITCH! _________________ Spark the ism, my expertism, is lyracism, my flow will take you over like I was hypnotism...so where's the lighter, to start the cypher.... |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Profit was the best backup SG we had in years. Ever in the Kobe starting at SG era.
And we had some interesting names.
Richmond
Rider
Rush
None of them showed me the same stability of the bench that Profit had. I hope he revovers 100% and we can give him a shot at TC to prove himself again. |
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maddprophet Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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kells1220 wrote: | He's better than Sasha, Devin Green, Luke Walton, Kwame... need I go on. Yeah he didn't play a whole lot of minutes but I belive that he was still learning the triangle like these other guys and by now he would've been more productive. |
plus it was the first half of the season on a new team and a new system for profit. his contributions overall would only have gotten better.
as he got more and more comfortable, and as we realized more and more smush and sasha's deficiencies. laron would have become an even more important piece to our puzzle. he hadn't yet reached his full potential with this team. _________________ Spark the ism, my expertism, is lyracism, my flow will take you over like I was hypnotism...so where's the lighter, to start the cypher.... |
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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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vkewalra wrote: | OdomX2 wrote: | Yah those 11 minutes, 4 pts half an assist and 2 boards has really killed us. Ever notice that Laker fans savior is the one guy hurt, or not signed? |
I like how people (referring to nobody in particular) talk about the importance of intangibles and team chemistry, but when it comes down to it the only thing they care about is statistics. I also like how so many people agree we need a guard that plays solid defense and hits open shots, but discredit the loss of a player that fits that description. |
Are you kidding? Are you saying that Profit's 11 minutes has hurt team chemistry? Good grief. The problem with this team is LACK OF TALENT! Not chemistry or spacing or coaching. IT IS TALENT AND THE LACK THEREOF. |
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Boybees Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: What's our record since Laron Profit went down? |
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JD wrote: | Boybees wrote: | Since it's been pointed out that we in fact traded Caron for him and not for Kwame after all.
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So this is the latest twisting of words? That we traded for Profit and not Kwame?
Does reading comprehension fail you?
Trade was for BOTH Kwame AND Laron. |
Dude you take yourself way too seriously in your self-appointed role of the Enforcer and Disciplinarian of LG. Learn to laugh at yourself a bit, it'll help you.
I actually thought you made a great point by reminding us that the original trade was for a lot more than Kwame. We got a perfect role player in Profit, and his going down was a turning point in the season. _________________ Jerry Buss made the Lakers into the crown jewel of the NBA. |
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Bystander Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Profit wasn't that important on his own. It allowed Kobe to have rest without watching game going downhill. |
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