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LakerEric Star Player
Joined: 03 May 2002 Posts: 7193 Location: Vegas
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rasheed was raping Cook. Some of it was him getting cold, but a lot of it was Kwame not allowing him to more than shoot jumpers.
And the rebounding.
Kwame just needs to bring that sort of Dennis Rodman type of game every night.
Maybe Turiaf is rubbing off on the guy? |
IF HE IS....LOOK OUT LEAGUE!!!! _________________ Do you believe it now, Trinity? - Morpheous |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 18202 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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You gotta give it up for the guy's defense. He's stepped up and played solid defense against some of the best low-post players in the league: Sheed, Shaq, Yao, and KG.
Final exam coming up on Monday Mr. Brown. |
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heineken Star Player
Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 1601 Location: Lakers Bench
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Unsung hero? Kwame Brown |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Without his defense on Rasheed and boards the Lakers do not match Detroit's frontline.
Well by that I mean they get dominated.
The best lineup was that 4th qtr one with Kwame/Odom/George/Bryant/Parker. I have wanted that line to start earlier in the season.
Anyway, we are all really hard on Kwame. Time to give the guy his well deserved props - even though it's one game. It's the type of game that shows why his size and athleticism alone is worth the gamble. |
Good post Wolf. Kwame did a good job on defense and boards. Hopefully he can keep it up. _________________ "It's all about the beer" |
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thumpinghead Star Player
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 5657
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Bring it Kwame and keep bringing it!
Sigh if he could AVERAGE 10+boards a NIGHT! _________________ Kevin Love. 2015. |
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LA_Lakers_Rule Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 19482 Location: The X-Files
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Shapecity wrote:
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Kwame has been good against the premiere PFs in the league. He just needs to play with the same intensity against some of the mediocre ones. |
One could say the same thing about the Laker team in general as far as getting up for games against mediocre opposition.
It seems the Lakers have trouble getting up for poorer teams in the NBA and tend to lose games which should have been wins.
Hmmm... Could there be a relationship here...
Could it be... As Kwame goes, so go the Lakers. _________________ Rule = win titles
Good judgment comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers ... |
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 40198 Location: O.C.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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NestT wrote: | Did you see Rasheed go one on one against Kwame in the post expecting a double team?
No dice Beeahtch!
No double, no team defensive collapse and no points for Rasheed.
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So true. Kwame was smothering him in the post. I'm talking to my big screen... no double! no double! no double! |
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Addicus Star Player
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 9642 Location: Dave's Pimp Palace
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Kwame straight out manhandled Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyse (the original Amare Stoudemire) tonight.
I wrote a scathing review of this guy last week and night's like tonight make me happy to be wrong.
He played with energy and focus.
Hopefully this happens for the rest of his career. _________________ Stop crying and start doing.
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/addicusbrown |
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eniq 0x00 Star Player
Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 2724
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Money$hot! wrote: | Kwamaki's hands of stone cost us 8 points easy ... |
Stop making (bleep) up. The fact that you equate Samaki with Kwame just kills your credibility. _________________ "In essence, the trade was: Shaq, Rick Fox and Gary Payton for Odom, Kwame, Mihm, Profit, 2nd round picks, a 1st round pick and 30 million in luxury tax saviings." - LakerJam
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lakers1969 Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 2197 Location: Temecula border of San Diego
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rasheed was raping Cook. Some of it was him getting cold, but a lot of it was Kwame not allowing him to more than shoot jumpers.
And the rebounding.
Kwame just needs to bring that sort of Dennis Rodman type of game every night.
Maybe Turiaf is rubbing off on the guy? |
You nail it. You can see Turiaf and Kwame before the game doing the hustle. |
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BigE32 Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 8518
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: |
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The guy played great post defense last night and grabbed 12 rebounds. I've got to give him credit for his play on the defensive end of the floor. |
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40ptmachine Starting Rotation
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 633
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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I still think trading Caron for this guy was a good move. |
Are you serious ? _________________ After 7 seasons I am a NON ALL STAR, in fact, I am a ROLE PLAYER making Superstar $$$
plus; I get standing ovations when I reach double digits |
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twoface723 Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 3751 Location: University of Texas
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: |
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If he could play like that every game, we don't need his offense. But man if he ever developed to be an offensive, then . |
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Flight Star Player
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 4740 Location: The OC
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Kwame single-handedly outrebounded the Wallace Bros. That is amazing! |
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Flight Star Player
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 4740 Location: The OC
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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40ptmachine wrote: | shnjb wrote: |
I still think trading Caron for this guy was a good move. |
Are you serious ? |
I agree with shnjb. |
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Panthas Star Player
Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 1262
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | Shapecity wrote:
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Kwame has been good against the premiere PFs in the league. He just needs to play with the same intensity against some of the mediocre ones. |
One could say the same thing about the Laker team in general as far as getting up for games against mediocre opposition.
It seems the Lakers have trouble getting up for poorer teams in the NBA and tend to lose games which should have been wins.
Hmmm... Could there be a relationship here...
Could it be... As Kwame goes, so go the Lakers. |
I said that in the begining of the year, If kwame can pull it together and be the big man (not by scoring, cuz that will come, but in boards and defense) he will make it easy for Odom to play his game. _________________ Panthas |
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JimmyPage Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 348
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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The key for Kwame offensively is very easy...DO NOT RUSH IT. And also, when it doubt, try to dunk it.
He can end up putting in 10 a night, which would be fine. Also, guys need to stop rocketing passes at him that even sure-handed players would have a hard time catching. Against the W's on Friday there was a fast break where Sasha drove hard to the bucket, then whipped it back to Kwame's gut no-look. Then Kwame gets blamed for not catching it. |
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vicman Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 2379 Location: Arcadia
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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i really think he can be a ben wallace type player. look ben was 26 when he started playing really well. in fact the wizards traded him for ike austin. he did nothing really before 26 aqnd has never shown offense. i think we should keep the guy but work on him understanding his role and try to light a fire under him |
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Freakout Franchise Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 11796 Location: WV
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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If Kwame could bring that type of effort every night I'd gladly cut him some slack. No suprise when our two biggest question marks decide to show up (Odom and Kwame) that we actually play a great game. |
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mirak Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 5238
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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psydesho wrote: | Kwame straight out manhandled Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyse (the original Amare Stoudemire) tonight.
I wrote a scathing review of this guy last week and night's like tonight make me happy to be wrong.
He played with energy and focus.
Hopefully this happens for the rest of his career. |
Kwame is one strong dude. He's also about 4 inches taller than Ben Wallace. His impact on the game last night doesn't really show up in the boxscore (except for the 12 rebounds).
I can't wait to see Kwame and Bynum on the floor together, hopefully against the Spurs. We already know that Bynum tends to show up for these games against the likes of Duncan, Shaq, Curry. I think a combo of Kwame and Bynum for limited minutes would frustrate Duncan. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58336
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I can't wait to see Kwame and Bynum on the floor together |
I don't about offense, but defensively in 1-2 years that could be one hell of a combo. |
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mirak Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Quote: | I can't wait to see Kwame and Bynum on the floor together |
I don't about offense, but defensively in 1-2 years that could be one hell of a combo. |
That's mainly what I'm referring to. I think Bynum with his length and height advantage can make things difficult for Duncan, again, for short stretches. We know he shows more energy in these type of game situtations. And Kwame is still our best interior defender, he's simply too strong to be pushed out (even by Shaq). Again, for short stretches, it would be nice to see what that duo can do against the likes of Duncan. Call it an experiment. |
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karlmalonefan Star Player
Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 2608 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Unsung hero? Kwame Brown |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Without his defense on Rasheed and boards the Lakers do not match Detroit's frontline.
Well by that I mean they get dominated.
The best lineup was that 4th qtr one with Kwame/Odom/George/Bryant/Parker. I have wanted that line to start earlier in the season.
Anyway, we are all really hard on Kwame. Time to give the guy his well deserved props - even though it's one game. It's the type of game that shows why his size and athleticism alone is worth the gamble. | That is their best defensive line-up, has been all year. This isn't the team that should start, but it's the team we need down the stretch in the 4th quarter. You could switch out Mihm/Kwame depending on matchups and if you need Kwame's defense on a tough post player or not, but that is my favorite lineup. It has won us alot of games this season. They seem to have good chemistry defensively most of the time.
Props to Kwame, I'm glad Phil put him on Rasheed. He basically shut him down the rest of the game after he started 6 for 6 he went like 1-11 the rest of the way. Props to Lamar, loved the game he played last night. I just wish he would play with that fire every night! Props to smush...he was aggressive and tireless on Rip, so kobe could save energy on defense. Rip got his points, but shot a horrible fg%. I was so proud of these guys last night! Felt like a playoff game. |
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karlmalonefan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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THE_SHOES wrote: | Money$hot! wrote: | Kwame's hands of stone cost us 8 points easy, but holding Ben Wallace to 5 boards makes up for it. He was useful tonight. We'll see about tommorrow. |
One thing for sure Money though is that San Antonio is much more tender in the paint than Detroit. If Kwame applies himself like he did tonight he may as well be Shaq as far as the Spurs are concerned...With Kwame it is just confidence,confidence, confidence... He can do this Jax just has to keep hammering at him and, convincing him that he can do these things.
Did you see when LO hit him damned near in the face with that pass. I have a feeling that was on purpose as LO was hoping that in an attempt to protect himself he would catch the ball Bingo! he delivered 2! | Actually it was Smush that hit him in the face, I do think it woke him up, though! |
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Scherm Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Kwame has more potential than 80% of the centers on other rosters in the league. Even when his offensive skills are lacking, he can affect a game through his size, rebounding and ability to outwork other front line men. The game did turn when he was in there, and he neutralized Ben Wallace's offensive putbacks and Rasheed Wallace's post game. Odom and Kobe got some huge rebounds too. |
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Money$hot! Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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eniq 0x00 wrote: | Money$hot! wrote: | Kwamak1's hands of stone cost us 8 points easy ... |
Stop making (bleep) up. The fact that you equate Samaki with Kwame just kills your credibility. |
aaHHAHAHAHA! check it, once Kwamak1 proves he can catch a pass and perform his rebounding/defense feat for more than a couple nights in a row, he's no better than Samaki Walker. So until then, Kwamak1 it is. Like I said, good job tonight though. Now quit your sniveling... it's only Kwamk1 Brown for heaven sakes (or did you buy a jersey?)
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