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JustaObserver
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| roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
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lakers4life78
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Pelinka will have lunch with Jeanie and reminisce about Kobe and get a 3 year extension.
Guy doesn't understand how to build a roster. Like you need more than one big body to bang down low. Wood isn't the answer. You can't have two weak defensive guards who are both slow footed as starters when your alpha is 39.
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| ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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competent people cost money that cheap jeanie doesnt have
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| ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that?
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| Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that? |
No way. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that? |
Of course not. Look, in all likelihood Lore/ARod’s acquisition will go through and Connelly will stay put. But even if he were a free and clear free agent would Jeanie ever go above $8M to pry him away? For a non-crony? Never. That, more than anything else, is why we will further slide down the standings now that LeBron can’t carry us on his shoulders anymore.
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| ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that? |
Of course not. Look, in all likelihood Lore/ARod’s acquisition will go through and Connelly will stay put. But even if he were a free and clear free agent would Jeanie ever go above $8M to pry him away? For a non-crony? Never. That, more than anything else, is why we will further slide down the standings now that LeBron can’t carry us on his shoulders anymore. |
good GM costs around 8-10mil and wont listen to the pathetic Rambi's
good Coach costs arounf 12-15m in todays nba
thats 20mil the 6 siblings have to pay for..
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that? |
Of course not. Look, in all likelihood Lore/ARod’s acquisition will go through and Connelly will stay put. But even if he were a free and clear free agent would Jeanie ever go above $8M to pry him away? For a non-crony? Never. That, more than anything else, is why we will further slide down the standings now that LeBron can’t carry us on his shoulders anymore. |
On paper AD should keep us good. We saw how good we played when it was just him. Unfortunately he doesn’t have the Ant, sga mentality where he wants everything that comes with being that guy
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JustaObserver
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| roger_federer wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
Did Rob play in the games? Were they leading in all the games vs Den? |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
Did Rob play in the games? Were they leading in all the games vs Den? |
He hired Ham. |
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lakers4life78
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Cheap Dean Spanos hired Harbaugh, you never know
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| zambia wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
Did Rob play in the games? Were they leading in all the games vs Den? |
He hired Ham. |
he signed a twig AD in Hayes and a skinnier Wood. after getting whooped in playoffs he didnt think we needed anybody to guard Jokic |
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Last night was enough proof he has to be fired.
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| roger_federer wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
Agreed. Clean the house. Get rid of both. I hope Jeanie would just hire a proven and qualified GM and just let him do his job.
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Brawn13
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Denver killed us in rebounding last season, can’t believe we never addressed this. Look no one can guard Jokic, but we need a serviceable big for at least 10 minutes a game to relieve AD.
I guess that was supposed to be Wood but even he’s too tiny |
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Even though we've won one championship with Lebron, I feel like we could have won more because Lebron was two out of four in Miami with Bosh and Wade and he's only one out of six in LA. You can't tell me AD and DLo is not as good as Bosh and Wade.
The Westbrick trade occurred after Pelinka has dismantled the championship team so I mean the team was already screwed before that trade anyways. The point here is there's no finger pointing at LeKlutch or anyone else. This was all Pelinka and Pelinka alone. Pelinka's vision of a three point shooting center and another ballhandler to help prolong Lebron's career has NOT come to fruition.
He actually deviated away the perfect championship recipe that is defense and rebounding by going away from Howard/McGee to Gasol/Harrell.
Offense gets the glory but defense and rebounding win championships. Always!
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JustaObserver
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| JustaObserver wrote: | I would have love to get a Center..I said Jay Huff or trying to even keep Mo Bamba at a lower price..but some wanted to wait and get Wood a Forward..smh..welp you got what you wanted.
However these loses really not on Rob..they on Ham..remind people again..you have had big leads all the games on DEN coming out of the half. Its up to your coach to guide the team to maintain or increase the lead. We havent been blown out in the 1st half yet..sooo its not the players its how they being used..looking at you HIGH SCHOOL COACH POCKETS.
oh wait the nonsense reply"Who hired him?": Your idiot OWNER. Dont want to pay too much money ie Lue or any legit money for a real coach so options are limited also got to be someone Klutch likes...welp. |
"but but but he hired HAM!" uptop is your reply already. |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | roger_federer wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | Got swept last year and decided to sign Hayes and Wood |
Yeah they got Hayes who has solid upside and Christian Wood whom is a starting center in the league and puts up 17-20 points a game.
They also got known scorer Spencer Dinwiddie.
Their coach never ran offense through Wood with the bench, and told Dinwiddie that the team won't need his scoring and instead be a spot up shooter and play defense.
Is that Pelinka's fault? |
lol both can’t do (bleep) again jokic. |
Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD either. That's not what's hurting us.
What's hurting us is our bench scoring in single digits and having proven scorers like Dinwiddie, Vincent and/or Wood on your bench but Taurean Prince is the leading scorer. |
Even when Jokic can't do (bleep) against AD, he can still set up plays for others. The problem is not the bench its the starters. only 2 of the starters playing good each game won't cut it.
Now AD had 2 monster games and we still lost. He won't have the same in next 2 games. |
It all goes back to how do you get the other players good looks or going....you play off the hot hand of DAvis and hope he makes the basket or he makes the pass to the open man or man cutting to the basket. If the coach cant enforce that?..well |
Ham is trash. So is Rob. |
Did Rob play in the games? Were they leading in all the games vs Den? |
If getting a lead on a team is your criteria I have nothing to say to you. |
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| Our team is better than Denvers, our roster is better. These last two games have shown that. Our coach is terrible, that's probably more on Jeanie than Rob. |
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lakers4life78
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| Day wrote: | | Our team is better than Denvers, our roster is better. These last two games have shown that. Our coach is terrible, that's probably more on Jeanie than Rob. |
No it's not. Our third best player isn't as good as Porter, our top two players aren't MVPs, and they still have quality guys like Braun, KCP, and Gordon that all fit together.
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| Day wrote: | | Our team is better than Denvers, our roster is better. These last two games have shown that. Our coach is terrible, that's probably more on Jeanie than Rob. |
Disagree, no way our roster is better.
Davis and Lebron vs Murray and Jokic - That's a wash
Michael Porter Jr, Gordon, Braun = Better than all our guys combined |
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JustaObserver
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| lakers4life78 wrote: | | Day wrote: | | Our team is better than Denvers, our roster is better. These last two games have shown that. Our coach is terrible, that's probably more on Jeanie than Rob. |
No it's not. Our third best player isn't as good as Porter, our top two players aren't MVPs, and they still have quality guys like Braun, KCP, and Gordon that all fit together. |
this is sad...KCP , Gordon were aquired over time. You mad because one player not better than another? lol...you only got certain players that actually got you to the WCF due to flushing down the toilet becasue our "Big 3 Star" in WB was a hot mess...now some of you want to go back and do this same tired stuff over again.. You cant make this stuff up.
Rob has put players here that has got you to the WCF and back to the playoffs but your coah just sucks. The team EVERY 1 half has led by double digits. Your reg season you have made stupid rotations all year..ITS A MARICALE that we even made the play-in with this coach.
Vogel,Spolstra,Sloan,Pop,Vangundy Brothers,Mcmilan,Avery Johnson,OKC's Coach,Udoka...any of those guys coaching...where do you think we would be? think hard now..where would we be? |
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| Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | Juuuuuuuuust sayin.
| Quote: | | Furthermore, sources confirmed with me that Tim Connelly’s deal includes an opt-out clause after this season, a detail first reported by Shams Charania. So, knowing Taylor could continue to own the team long-term and didn’t want him in the first place, it’s logical to speculate as to whether Connelly might exercise that option and leave the Timberwolves to join another NBA franchise, many of which would love to have him. |
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This would take a forfeiture of input from JB. Real money. A desire to be great. Does she have a stomach for that? |
She needs people around her that she feels comfortable with. This is how you run a mom and pop family business. Even Dr. Buss was willing to hire people he had friction with. He and Logo didn't get along but he still let the man construct his teams. I just can't imagine Jeannie stepping out of her bubble. |
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If Mitch and Jimmy got the boot for MozDeng, in no world should Rob get off easy for HamBrook. Two inexcusable signings that derailed every hope and chance for championship contention. Worse, if KCP doesn't join Denver they don't have nearly the same perimeter defense to cover for Murray and Jokic. Jeanie has to stop covering for her boy.
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