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Thugnomoe
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Kobe Bryant tonight...
44pts (17/32 FG > .500) - against one of the best defensive teams in the league.
We're in the middle of the pack offensively and defensively (roughly).
Facing the Spurs, who average 95ppg - we allowed 103.
On offense, our average is 98.6 and we still scored 96 (against a great
defensive team).
Is it possible, just MAYBE... that this loss isn't Kobe's fault?
DEFENSE people.
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Soda is like hartman on the loose cannons: the voice of reason
Kobe played an amazing game..shot well...kept us close...if only we could get a stop... |
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critical_beatdown
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| bounty wrote: | | critical_beatdown wrote: | | bounty wrote: | You guys dont get it. we were great on the boards EARLY. The quarter ended. POP told his BETTER team to fix that and walla.
I cant get #'s I am curious to see how LO managed to get a great boxscore after a horrendous night.
DG was weak. Kwame started nice but fell asleep. What should Kobe do |
How was Lamar horrendous? I would have liked to see him get more scoring opportunities, but he played well tonight, and hard. |
Now thats funny. he had the opportunity to get involved early. establish something, yet he failed. he passed out of the post every chance he had when he was singled by little Gino. his defense was horrid, as was the teams, but when your 12mil. more is expected. He was typical avg. role player LO. You all were waiting to annoint him after his DTown game.
Back to the LO we all know. Kobe score 40 on .500 we dont lose. |
That didn't happen at all. He got the ball maybe once against Manu in the post. What he was doing in the 1st quarter was driving the ball into the lane and feeding guys time after time for open jump shots or layups (most of which were not made). |
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bounty
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| critical_beatdown wrote: | | Lamar easily should have 8+ assists tonight if not for his teammates blowing easy scoring opportunities... |
look at this post. one big excuse. what about him on D? What about scoring another bucket?
Hold him accountable please. He makes 12mil. OR are you still watching the Pist game
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CBaller8
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| Man I'd kill to have Mike James. He'd (bleep) abuse Tony Parker in our system. |
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tgf5
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| magic_bryant wrote: | | KingKobe8thWonder wrote: | | TACH wrote: | | magic_bryant wrote: | All I can say is the Kobe nut-huggers had better hope that we get a KG level player soon. Even giving Kobe guys that can play, will not result in a title. He's too impulsive. He needs a guy that isn't afraid to jump his ass if he's ball-hogging. A guy that Kobe would actually respect enough to not try and do everything.
The triangle offense scored us 27 points in the 1st qtr. Then they stopped running the triangle and it stagnated. |
Kobe Nut-Huggers... Look at your signature!!! :roll: |
Dont be fooled
MAGIC BRYANT isnt quite a troll but he usually has nothing but negative things to say about Kobe! How the hell do you blame Kobe for tonight, he was amazing! Stop being negative towards him! |
No. I'm no troll.
I just feel genuinely cheated when I see Kobe play like he did tonight. He's better than that. The team was rolling. He got caught up in the moment and, along with some bad D, shot us out of the game.
If you ever see a real Lakers/Kobe fan being overly negative, it's cause they know he's better than he's playing.
Just as he did last time we played the Spurs, if he had just throttled it back a bit when others were playing well, we would have won. He just gets too caught up in the moment. It's his strength and his weakness.
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K you obviously didn't watch the game. Kobe kept them in the game, team defense got them out. Kobe tried to get them back in the game, George misses WIDE OPEN 3 and team defense blows it again. |
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critical_beatdown
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You're a hater Bounty...face it. You are totally inaccurate about Lamar's play in the 1st quarter. Review the tape.
You were wrong in real-time when I pointed it out, and you're still wrong now. |
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LakersSpirit
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Take a good look at Jim Jackson... Yeah, he's Grandpa Amos, yeah, uh huh...   Phil was too stubborn... LeBron looks older...
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CBaller8
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh man had Devean hit that shot...bleh oh well not like many of us had this down as a W...Phil post game interview |
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bounty
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| critical_beatdown wrote: | | bounty wrote: | | critical_beatdown wrote: | | bounty wrote: | You guys dont get it. we were great on the boards EARLY. The quarter ended. POP told his BETTER team to fix that and walla.
I cant get #'s I am curious to see how LO managed to get a great boxscore after a horrendous night.
DG was weak. Kwame started nice but fell asleep. What should Kobe do |
How was Lamar horrendous? I would have liked to see him get more scoring opportunities, but he played well tonight, and hard. |
Now thats funny. he had the opportunity to get involved early. establish something, yet he failed. he passed out of the post every chance he had when he was singled by little Gino. his defense was horrid, as was the teams, but when your 12mil. more is expected. He was typical avg. role player LO. You all were waiting to annoint him after his DTown game.
Back to the LO we all know. Kobe score 40 on .500 we dont lose. |
That didn't happen at all. He got the ball maybe once against Manu in the post. What he was doing in the 1st quarter was driving the ball into the lane and feeding guys time after time for open jump shots or layups (most of which were not made). |
OK. Please, dude, he was exactly who he has been all season. Blame the others for his ineptness, thats funny. So hes 6'10 drove, got to within 2 feet of the basket and passed out?
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magic_bryant
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| KingKobe8thWonder wrote: | | magic_bryant wrote: | | KingKobe8thWonder wrote: | | TACH wrote: | | magic_bryant wrote: | All I can say is the Kobe nut-huggers had better hope that we get a KG level player soon. Even giving Kobe guys that can play, will not result in a title. He's too impulsive. He needs a guy that isn't afraid to jump his ass if he's ball-hogging. A guy that Kobe would actually respect enough to not try and do everything.
The triangle offense scored us 27 points in the 1st qtr. Then they stopped running the triangle and it stagnated. |
Kobe Nut-Huggers... Look at your signature!!! :roll: |
Dont be fooled
MAGIC BRYANT isnt quite a troll but he usually has nothing but negative things to say about Kobe! How the hell do you blame Kobe for tonight, he was amazing! Stop being negative towards him! |
No. I'm no troll.
I just feel genuinely cheated when I see Kobe play like he did tonight. He's better than that. The team was rolling. He got caught up in the moment and, along with some bad D, shot us out of the game.
If you ever see a real Lakers/Kobe fan being overly negative, it's cause they know he's better than he's playing.
Just as he did last time we played the Spurs, if he had just throttled it back a bit when others were playing well, we would have won. He just gets too caught up in the moment. It's his strength and his weakness.
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Well tonight you are DEAD WRONG MY friend, anytime Kobe hits 50% and goes for 44 and hits all his freethrows and 4 straight threes the offense wasnt the problem. You are terribly misguided my friend, we messed up on defense! SImple! Youre a spoiled Kobe fan thats what you are, what do you expect him to do, blow fairy dust at our players to get them to hit all thier shots!?? |
Check Kobe's 3rd qtr stats, which is where the game was lost.
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CBaller8
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil mentioned Devean's shot and of course their 3 pt shooting. |
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K8KillerInstinct
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MAGIC_BRYANT you need to  cuz you really need it. I didnt know that one person could portray his stupidity so fast.
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KBandKB
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 open your eyes refs. |
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TACH
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| magic_bryant wrote: | | DrDoom wrote: | | KingKobe8thWonder wrote: | | TACH wrote: | | magic_bryant wrote: | All I can say is the Kobe nut-huggers had better hope that we get a KG level player soon. Even giving Kobe guys that can play, will not result in a title. He's too impulsive. He needs a guy that isn't afraid to jump his ass if he's ball-hogging. A guy that Kobe would actually respect enough to not try and do everything.
The triangle offense scored us 27 points in the 1st qtr. Then they stopped running the triangle and it stagnated. |
Kobe Nut-Huggers... Look at your signature!!! :roll: |
Dont be fooled
MAGIC BRYANT isnt quite a troll but he usually has nothing but negative things to say about Kobe! How the hell do you blame Kobe for tonight, he was amazing! Stop being negative towards him! |
He was amazing on offense, when we were already 18 points down and the game was over.
I would prefer he shut down his man, and be amazing a bit more in the 3rd and early 4th so maybe these last few minutes don't look like he is just a stat padder.
-Doom |
Exactly. |
Pick your poison... Gino went 5-6 from three land, as did Finely... how does one man stop that... On the other hand.. Smush and George shot the ball terrible tonight... what should he have done?? They ran the offense in the second, and in the beginning of the 3rd... |
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critical_beatdown
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We lost this game on D, not because of Lamar.
Lamar was 6-8 from the field, and 13/7/4 with 2 steals and a block. He easily should have had 8 assists tonight too if not for teammates' bricks.
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CBaller8
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| I'm getting tired of PGs killing us. Why can't we sign a bonafide player as our PG? |
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bounty
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| critical_beatdown wrote: | You're a hater Bounty...face it. You are totally inaccurate about Lamar's play in the 1st quarter. Review the tape.
You were wrong in real-time when I pointed it out, and you're still wrong now. |
What are LO's #'s? I cant get onto espn. im sure they are great.
You are blaming everyone but LO.
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KingKobe8thWonder
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Well tonight you are DEAD WRONG MY friend, anytime Kobe hits 50% and goes for 44 and hits all his freethrows and 4 straight threes the offense wasnt the problem. You are terribly misguided my friend, we messed up on defense! SImple! Youre a spoiled Kobe fan thats what you are, what do you expect him to do, blow fairy dust at our players to get them to hit all thier shots!??[/quote]
Check Kobe's 3rd qtr stats, which is where the game was lost.[/quote]
Oh youre right... Kobe stuck sticks up everyones asses on defense! Good eye Magic_Bryant didnt see that the first time i looked over the stats!
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CBaller8
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| Damn Duncan was on his way to a triple double. |
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bounty
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| critical_beatdown wrote: | We lost this game on D, not because of Lamar.
Lamar was 6-8 from the field, and 13/7/4 with 2 steals and a block. He easily should have had 8 assists tonight too if not for teammates' bricks. |
That is a Problem. Not the only one, but a huge one. 5pts in the 1st half.
he AGAIN dwindled as he was needed
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critical_beatdown
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| bounty wrote: | | critical_beatdown wrote: | You're a hater Bounty...face it. You are totally inaccurate about Lamar's play in the 1st quarter. Review the tape.
You were wrong in real-time when I pointed it out, and you're still wrong now. |
What are LO's #'s? I cant get onto espn. im sure they are great.
You are blaming everyone but LO. |
You are so irrational Bounty...I have no blamed no specific Laker in this entire thread except being pissed because Devean can't make a jump shot tonight.
Get it together, and stop just making sh#$ up.
We lost on D, as a team, and the Spurs couldn't miss. Kobe had a fabulous game, and I haven't blamed him once. |
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CBaller8
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| That game against NO is HUGE |
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magic_bryant
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Look. We don't have a great defensive team. I concede that EVERY night. The way to win games like tonight, is to let the triangle keep the game close. Come 4th qtr, let Kobe shoot us to a W or L. He pushed the throttle WAY too soon. Running the triangle would have ate up time and we'd have only been down no more than 8-10 points, cause hte offense would have kept us in it. Come 4th qtr, Kobe scores his 17 4th qtr points and we win that game.
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critical_beatdown
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| bounty wrote: | | critical_beatdown wrote: | We lost this game on D, not because of Lamar.
Lamar was 6-8 from the field, and 13/7/4 with 2 steals and a block. He easily should have had 8 assists tonight too if not for teammates' bricks. |
That is a Problem. Not the only one, but a huge one. 5pts in the 1st half.
he AGAIN dwindled as he was needed |
We were leading at the half, weren't we? And Lamar should have had 6-7 assists then if not for his teammates failing him. 5 points and 6 assists is a good first half when you're winning (even when you're not). There was no shortage of Lakers in the first half who did score enough for us to have the lead.
You have no basketball IQ bounty. We lost in the 2nd half on D...it had nothign to do with Lamar's offensive game. Your routine is rote by now. |
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CBaller8
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Sacto is at MIL on Wed...hope the Bucks can get that one |
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