Solution to Beat the Spurs: Throw Parker on the Floor

LGD · Star Player Joined: 20 Apr 2002 Posts: 2605

I don't get it. How can a point guard in this league be shooting 55% from the field? 55%!?! In 2004, after the Lakers lost the first 2 games in the second round of the playoffs, the Lakers decided to change their strategy. Instead of letting Tony Parker drive in for lay-up after lay-up, they went for the ball, fouled him hard, and most importantly, made sure he wouldn't come back in the lane again. 4 games later, the Lakers were in the NBA Finals.

My question is why didn't they do this tonight? Or why didn't they come into tonight's game with this strategy? It took them 40+ minutes to finally foul Parker when he drove to the lane, and I couldn't tell you how glad I was to see it. And what happened? Parker missed both free throws. He's not as tough minded as many would think. Sure, he's learned to redeem himslef a lot better the last couple of years as seen through the two jump shots he nailed in the closing minutes. But I would much rather have him take those shots than driving for an uncontested layup. And you can bet he was shaken and would definitely think twice before driving again.

On another note, I think Kwame has proven he can man-up against TD. There's absolutely no need to double-team the guy. But then again, maybe that's just me.

Sister Golden Hair · Franchise Player Joined: 01 May 2001 Posts: 15872

Bogus flagrant against Odom, BTW. The real question is why other Lakers didn't do the exact same thing: you have to make Parker pay for his aggressiveness. You don't need to try and hurt him, but make him pay for his ventures inside. Most of the game, the lakers acted as if they were afraid to touch him. Play the ball. If you have to go through body to do so, so be it. But make him pay.

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mswift44 · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject:

I completely agree with u. The problem is that this team is soft so they won't do it. I was just telling my friend the same exact thing. If you knock Parker down, he'll start thinking twice about taking it to the hole.

lakez34 · Star Player Joined: 24 Apr 2001 Posts: 6077

Must mean the entire league is soft because it's not often you'll see Parker being leveled in the form of basketball and not out of malice.

Like Stu Lantz mentioned, with the rules the way they are today, where you pretty much cannot touch the guard, all quick PGs can have their way in this league.

See:
Chris Paul
Allen Iverson
Tony Parker
Steve Nash
Brevin Knight

Quick PGs. Decent jumpers. They have field days out there. Even some of the lesser-known quick players have great games thanks to the rules.

KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

cause anytime you throw a semi hard foul on a spur, its a flagrant.
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject:

Forget throwing him on the floor.

This guy could take him off the dribble over and over again!

SIGN HIM MITCH!!!

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lakez34 · Star Player Joined: 24 Apr 2001 Posts: 6077

Guaranteed that the league will review it and overturn that call.

Personally, I also think that Parker purposely took a few extra seconds on the floor just to get the refs attention. If he would've popped right back up, it'd have been a regular two-shot foul.

Sister Golden Hair · Franchise Player Joined: 01 May 2001 Posts: 15872

sodapoppenski · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject:

osj · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject:

i'm sure you're not serious, but if we were EVER to try something like that and get away with it, other teams would do the same to Kobe every game, and we would be dead. wouldn't be worth the W if it took doing something like this to win.

kups · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716

Sshh.. that will be our strategy come playoff time, no more waltzing in the lane.

That foul by Lamar doesn't deserve a flagrant. Parker was off-balanced when he was hit, so what do you think is supposed to happen?
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Stylistic Stylez · Star Player Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4336

i was PISSED at the refereeing in tonight's game
i was ANGRY at PJ playing luke in tonight's game
i was MAD that kobe wasnt getting any calls in tonight's game
i was FURIOUS that bruce bowen kept whining about every call in tonight's game
i was INFURIATED that Pop keeps calling timeouts every other play in tonight's game

.................but i was OVERJOYED that Parker got his ass tossed aside like a stupid rag doll....too bad Eva!! guess your not the only person pounding Tony!!!

lakez34 · Star Player Joined: 24 Apr 2001 Posts: 6077

Stylistic Stylez · Star Player Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4336

give tony some Halls cuz he kept coughing after he got knocked out

Sister Golden Hair · Franchise Player Joined: 01 May 2001 Posts: 15872

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BraveHeartII · Star Player Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1848

The reason we were able to defend Parker in the 2004 WCF was because we doubled him and was able to recover somewhat, and when we broke down, we left their mentally weakest guy open, i.e. Hedo. We can't afford that luxury this time. We were also able to score more to put pressure on them.

I really think a viable strategy to defend Parker is to put Odom on him, and then switch if they run the pick-and-roll with Kwame's man. Kwame can space himself against Parker. And Odom can be considered a big, so there won't be a mismatch. And if there were, the other big would be too far from the basket and there would be too little time for him to exploit it(most likely, they'll try to exploit the Kwame on Parker switch.)

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Sage_10 · Star Player Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 6668

Parker must eat court! These Euros can't deal with that kind of contact. If Parker got nailed as much as Kobe or AI do, I guarantee he would "retreat" back to the perimeter.

lakers0505 · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701

YES!!!! Somebody gets it, lay the law down on his ass. A forearm should do it. Am I is saying be dirty, yes i am , im not going to beat around the bush here. Its like saying (bleep), if u want come down the paint getting ready too pay for it.

* But hey we dont have karl malone anymore too do that for us , like in teh semi finals...go ol' karl scared tony to death,

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magic_bryant · Franchise Player Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 18179

Hell, Chauncey Billups bothers Parker jusst by bodying him up at the three line.
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lakers0505 · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701

parker has no 3 point shoot. hes abandoned it all together for the first time in his career. But yea tony will keep driving down the opponets lanes like he owns it , til someone lays him out, thats all it will take. Unfortunately we have no rough and tough big men in todays game....ben wallace is nice but he doesnt strike u as, a guy like malone, who lay punishment down on you for embarasing him.

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