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DaggerInTheHeart
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 Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: Has anyone seen Andrew Bynum? |
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I thought Phil was gonna decide to play him more in the 2nd half of the season?
It would've been nice if he matched up with Duncan why isn't Phil playing him for atleast 8 minutes or so??? and why isn't Ronny out there aswell? |
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Krispy Kreme
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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he lied
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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They probably have Andrew pumping weights like a madman...
I think Phil knows what Andrew can bring.. maybe he is waiting unitl he can play 15+ mins? |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
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Trey
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Hmm.. very true... His play could make Mihm and others look less valuable to other teams.. |
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rwongega
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Trey wrote: | They probably have Andrew pumping weights like a madman...
I think Phil knows what Andrew can bring.. maybe he is waiting unitl he can play 15+ mins? |
Bynum definitely needs to get some more muscle. If he doesn't see any minutes in garbage time, I think it's time to put his face on the "Missing" side of a milk carton. |
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Socks
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the bottom line is Phil is feeling the pressure to get into the playoffs, and every game is huge right now. Phil's not going to put the rook in when Bynum still gets lost quite often on both offense and defense. Right or wrong, that's just the way it is... |
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The Dagger
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Or the opposite. He may play too well and some teams (Minny perhaps) may demand him in a trade.
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And 1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Dagger wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Or the opposite. He may play too well and some teams (Minny perhaps) may demand him in a trade. |
Or maybe...
Phil doesn't believe that Bynum is good enough to contribute right now? |
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OmegaCues
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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It is always a mind game with Phil, or of course, he simply lied. Plain and simple.
| Quote: | | Phil doesn't believe that Bynum is good enough to contribute right now? |
Well, if Phil doesn't believe that Bynum is good enough, he wouldn't have gone on record and say that Bynum will play a lot more minutes.
Phil wants to win, NOW. He has never missed a playoff, and I don't believe he will sit Bynum just for trade value and jeopadizing missing the playoffs for the very first time.
The bottom line, nobody knows what he is thinking, just like we don't know why he gives Luke and Sasha extended minutes. |
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BraveHeartII
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Mihm and Kwame are playing pretty good defense. My question is where's Ronny Turiaf? Cook is giving us nothing out there. |
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Agar5
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I was excited to see Ronny getting more minutes, but I don't think he's played since the Portland game. He had 5 quick fouls in that game, but most of them seemed to be hustle plays. I wouldn't think this is the reason he isn't getting more minutes?  |
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lakers2626
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I think with the race for the play-offs so close I really doubt Bynum will see the floor. Remember this is Phil Jackson, he doens't think rookies can contribute there first year. Yes at times Ronny and Bynum have played good but this is Phil thing and I don't expect him to change. |
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raffi
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| And 1 wrote: | | The Dagger wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Or the opposite. He may play too well and some teams (Minny perhaps) may demand him in a trade. |
Or maybe...
Phil doesn't believe that Bynum is good enough to contribute right now? |
Actually, the last couple of games when Bynum got quality (as opposed to garbage time) minutes, he didn't look very good. Got his shot blocked several times when he was under the basket (Memphis, Sacto). |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| lakers2626 wrote: | | I think with the race for the play-offs so close I really doubt Bynum will see the floor. Remember this is Phil Jackson, he doens't think rookies can contribute there first year. Yes at times Ronny and Bynum have played good but this is Phil thing and I don't expect him to change. |
I'm a frequent critic of Bynum's selection by the Lakers.
With that said, though...
I find it hard to imagine how he (Bynum) has seen so few minutes, especially with Mihm's injury and Kwame's mediocre (mostly poor) play. Remember, no one is asking the guy to play 30, 20, or even 15 minutes per. Just two minutes at the end of the 1st quarter and another two at the beginning of the 2nd - repeating the cycle for the second half. |
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lakers2626
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| And 1 wrote: | | lakers2626 wrote: | | I think with the race for the play-offs so close I really doubt Bynum will see the floor. Remember this is Phil Jackson, he doens't think rookies can contribute there first year. Yes at times Ronny and Bynum have played good but this is Phil thing and I don't expect him to change. |
I'm a frequent critic of Bynum's selection by the Lakers.
With that said, though...
I find it hard to imagine how he (Bynum) has seen so few minutes, especially with Mihm's injury and Kwame's mediocre (mostly poor) play. Remember, no one is asking the guy to play 30, 20, or even 15 minutes per. Just two minutes at the end of the 1st quarter and another two at the beginning of the 2nd - repeating the cycle for the second half. |
I agree I mean 30 seconds of the first quarter could mean any where from a minute or 2 of extra rest for one of the starts. It might not sound much but it adds up. |
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dgrynch
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Phil getting into the kid's head. Phil is just being Phil.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| raffi wrote: | | And 1 wrote: | | The Dagger wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Or the opposite. He may play too well and some teams (Minny perhaps) may demand him in a trade. |
Or maybe...
Phil doesn't believe that Bynum is good enough to contribute right now? |
Actually, the last couple of games when Bynum got quality (as opposed to garbage time) minutes, he didn't look very good. Got his shot blocked several times when he was under the basket (Memphis, Sacto). |
Agreed.
But what do you expect from someone who hasn't seen real game action? Like I posted before a couple of months ago when I proposed that he should be sent to the D-league...coaching and practice can only take you so far. You've got to play the game in order to get better. |
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Socks
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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It'll probably come right down to the wire as to whether the Lakers make the playoffs. But if the Lakers secure a playoff spot with one game left to go, I'd love to see Phil toss Bynum in there for 20 - 30 minutes in a meaningless game to just see what we've got.
Yeah, yeah, it could effect his confidence, but he'll have all of the post season and all of the off season to rebuild that. Plus, it'd give him a good measure of where he stands so he can see just how much work he needs to put in over the summer to improve. |
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lakers0505
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Socks wrote: | It'll probably come right down to the wire as to whether the Lakers make the playoffs. But if the Lakers secure a playoff spot with one game left to go, I'd love to see Phil toss Bynum in there for 20 - 30 minutes in a meaningless game to just see what we've got.
Yeah, yeah, it could effect his confidence, but he'll have all of the post season and all of the off season to rebuild that. Plus, it'd give him a good measure of where he stands so he can see just how much work he needs to put in over the summer to improve. |
I highly doubt were in that posistion, because even if we have the 7,8th seed locked up, their could be a chance too move up. |
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threetimechamps
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Point well made |
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topramen78
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
Don't forget trade value.
The more our current big's play the more numbers they put up. The less Bynum plays, the less teams know about him.
Bringing him along slowly may be the best idea for now. |
Now THAT is hopeful.
I mean, if Bynum is really already that good, why not have him start and have Mihm as the backup??
You think LakersGround.net is the only group of people who know how good Bynum could be? Whether Bynum plays in the 2nd half or not ... everyone knows Bynum has HUGE potential. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I've seen him.
Tall black guy. 7-foot or so. Kind of a babyface.
Wears his jersey around even after games.
You can't miss him. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen footage of top secret practices from the past couple of weeks.
He is now around 300 pounds, reps at 400 pounds for the bench press and leg presses 800 pounds. He has developed the sky hook with either hand with a range out to 25 feet and has perfected every post move ever used by a center.
The organization is keeping him under wraps until the playoffs so that no team has a chance of preparing for him.
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