kobe hurt the team in the 3rd quarter

nesli · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 276

The match was on NBA TVint. I watched the replay two times.
--I don't know why but kobe forced too much at the beginning of third quarter it hurt the team a lot.
--Smush is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen. Parker was wide open several times because smush tried to steal in every possession.
--Smush also forced his shots.
--They unnecessarily double duncan.Brain cook

--Kobe didn't utilize lamar.He passed 2! times in the second half.He was only thinking scoring.
--yeah he was fantastic

. at it.

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What R U alking about ? Kobe know that in order for us to have a chance. he needs to shoot the rock, we all know that
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Laker_Dynasty · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject:

Sorry, but I was at the game and it wasn't Kobe's fault. The defense was absolutely horrible in the 3rd quarter. It was the entire team that dropped the ball defensively. They were ALL cheating defensively, so much so that Manu was raining 3's. Same trend continued into the 4th Quarter with Finley getting wide open 3's.

Regardless of what Kobe did on the offensive end, with the lack of defensive effort, it was inevitable that they would fall behind.
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Why am I not surprised that someone who would troll the nice thread by wolfpaclaker would make such a (bleep) unbelievably stunted thread? Did you miss the fact that Odom allowed the opposition to get hot by continuing to give perimeter shooters wide-open looks in the 3rd quarter? Yet another ignored troll.
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:

Any player who scores 43 points on better than 50% shooting is bound
to have had 1 of his 4 quarters be less impressive than the others.

Sorry, but we didn't get TROUNCED in that 3rd quarter because of Kobe.

If you wanna say he was going too shoot-first, fine.

But he STILL ended up with 43 points on better than 50% FGs.

If we can't beat a team when he does that, you need to look elsewhere
to point fingers - no matter when his points came or didn't.

DEFENSE was our freaking problem.

We gave up nearly 80 points in the first 3 quarters, and 103 by the end
of the game.

Our 90 points were enough to beat a defensive team like the Spurs IF
we had actually limited them defensively ourselves.

Kupchak's Biggest Fan · Sixth Man Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 29

The guy on ESPN News just ripped Kobe and the Lakers and say the Kings will pass us.

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Socks · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject:

So the question is why we played worse defense in the second half when there was good effort in the first?

I didn't see the game, but one theory could be that the supporting cast lost some of their interest in playing defense because they didn't knew they weren't going to get their shots. We all know this is no excuse, but we've all seen it tons of times. I especially remember Shaq getting pissed when he wasn't getting touches and his defense, rebounding and general enthusiasm declined.

Is that some of what you guys saw when Kobe started taking more shots?

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kobe didnt force any shots. He took some shots he would normally splash in. Just didnt go in. Its not like he was jacking up contested shots and long 3 pointers.
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Luke · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject:

BraveHeartII · Star Player Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1848

We should have ran better sets for Kobe. Kobe was taking those same midrange shots against Detroit, the difference here is that Bowen really contested his shots, and made them difficult even by Kobe's standard.

What I don't understand is, why don't we ever ran screens for Kobe to take those threes when the game is still in reach? Do they somehow think that Kobe has the mentality to make them only when the game is out of reach?

OshadowO · Star Player Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 7356

I agree about this much, he wrecked the offense in the third quarter by forcing about 4-5 shots in a row. Don't know what he was thinking.
However that is independant of our defense failing to close out on Manu. Of those 4 threes he hit, only one was contested. Lamar fell asleep as usual.

The sad thing is that in the fourth we continued to commit the same mistake over and over. Finley and Tony each getting too much space, went off and it killed us.

I agree 100% about smush. He's one of the laziest defenders I've ever seen.

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Typical Kobe homerisms. The poster did not say Kobe lost the game or Kobe threw the game away. His points are valid if you read it without your Goggle-#8.

Kobe did jump out of the triangle and forced some unneccessary shots. He was clearly preset on scoring mode, which did break the flow of the offense. When this happens, it's a bleak win-lose situation. Either we blow the team out or dig ourselves in double-digit deficits. As we have witnessed this whole season, this team plays better defense when they are involved on the offense. Sad but true.

The outcome of the game was not solely attributed to Kobe but he did play a role in the meltdown of the third quarter. To ignore that fact is being so enamored with a player(read:homer), you aren't willing to make valid, constructive criticisms that are merited toward him.