Kobe can't be compared with LEGENDS OR PRESENT STAR!!!

K8KillerInstinct · Starting Rotation Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 434

Surfing around LG for ages (

), I have noticed a trend of comparing players from the past & claiming one player is better than an other.

People need to stop comparing players with respect to their ages.

For example you cannot just say Lebron is better than Kobe at age 19 because Lebron almost avg a triple double while Kobe only scored 7 points per game @ age 19.

That needs to stop, it is ALL ABOUT LUCK & of course skills, dedication. Kobe was drafted into a team that was already established and soon Shaq in his prime arrived, did Kobe even have a chance to play 40 minutes/game. Hell no. Had kobe stayed with the Hornets, he could have scored at least 15 pts/game, minimum. So comparing two players like that is completely unfair.

The same can be said of Lebron. Had Lebron went to Detroit, he would be still a bench player especially cuz Larry Brown was the coach back then. So it is all about the situation of the team that determines one's statistical arguements.

The best way to compare players is compare them during their prime and their historical accomplishments. So just wait 20 more years, then comparisons between the present stars of the NBA will be legit.

The same arguement can be said of Jordan & Kobe comparison ( wait 10 more years for that). But as of today, it is CLEAR THAT KOBE HAS A BETTER JUMPSHOT THAN JORDAN EVER HAD.
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JUST-MING · Retired Number Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 43987

Basically - Kobe is better than Michael Jordan and LeBron James. Thank you.

K8KillerInstinct · Starting Rotation Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 434

un1bomber · Starting Rotation Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 703

amen to that... thank god not everyone is on LBJ's d!ck

kobekillinu2nite · Star Player Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1774

I don't think u can say one player is better than the other, just compare different facets of eachother's games as K8KillerInstinct has done in reference to Kobe and jordan's jumpers. Kobe is obviously a better 3 point shooter. Jordan is the better defender. etc.....

jack13 · Star Player Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 4620

Kobe is better then Jordan...Period.
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lakers0505 · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701

, its never going to work buddy. Yes , U cant compare yet. But everything m.j has done , kobe has done and better at each point. More blings, beat him too it first. Complete Game, kobe beat him too it too. Now all kobe has too do i cement that legacy with a second dynasty, something jordan never did, he had a long on but if by some miracle kobe can replicate a 6/8 year run, he will be unquestioned.period.

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tgf5 · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject:

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Laker's Fan · Franchise Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 12861

Offensively: Kobe is currently playing better than any NBA player I have ever seen. That dates back to the early/mid 80's.

Defensively: Has proven himself to be an excellent defender when he commits energy to it. This season he has been saving his legs for offense but spurts of hard nosed defense have surfaced.
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_LAKESHOW_ · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:

kobe has attributes that are better than jordans. his shooting for one. jordans was much better in driving the lane though, i believe it is due to jordans vert. his "UPs" seems to be greater than kobes leaping ability.

but also, jordans defense was solid. night in and night out he was consistently strong defensively. kobe seems to have lapses.

it also seems that jordan was stronger. physically stronger. cant say for sure, but it seems that way.

the drive that both have . . . very similar.
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tgf5 · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject:

lakers2626 · Star Player Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1948

Who says anybody your comparing Kobe is the best of all time. I still think Magic Johnson is the best basketball player of all time. He was dangerous on the court but he also made everybody else with him dangerous. Defense he could guard anybody from the point to the center. Talk about basketball IQ he had them. But wait where all Laker fans here so when people write down MJ there really talking about Magic Johnson right?

_LAKESHOW_ · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:43 pm Post subject:

no doubt about that. magic is thee greatest of all time.

but comparatively kobe vs. jordan. jordan has more to his game than kobe. although kobe is a better shooter.
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Legacy · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:

I understand the point you are trying to make. I agree to a certain extent. It is hard to look at all of these legends and point the finger at one and say "you are the best".

You have Jordan with his clutch play and his defense. The you have Magic with his all around game (passing, scoring, creating mismatches). Then you have Wilt with his dominance and his unparallel scoring ability. Then you have all the players in between: Jerry West, Dr. J, Larry Bird, Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and so on.

Personally, I don't think there will ever be one player that will stand out among all the rest as the greatest player ever. For example, some might say Jordan was better than Kobe. first of all, they're so good and so different, that Jordan should never be compared to Kobe. Just like Kobe should never be compared to Jordan.

I think it's all about chemistry. Jordan was the perfect fit for that Bulls team. Or that Bulls team was the perfect fit for Jordan. Thats not the case for Kobe and this Laker team. I think if Kobe were on this Detroit or San Antonio team, people would be singing a different tune.

In the end, I think we as Laker fans want Kobe to be considered the greatest of all time. But I think history will eventually place him among the greatest of all time. Along with all the others.

And I'm okay with that, because I'm enjoying it as it goes.

Go Lakers!

sodapoppenski · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

tgf5 · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:10 am Post subject:

lakers0505 · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701

(bleep), u cant compare damn era's, get it throught your heads. Part of why kobe is getting so much publicity is because of the time , he is doing it in!

If someone wants too have a compelling arguement about kobe's year vs Jordans year, pull out the stats.

What were the other top 5 efficency ratings ' in that year , vs. the top 5 efficeny ratings this year.

(bleep), this is debate is , as annoying as hell, everyone is going in circles. Thank You

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astrallionheart · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:54 am Post subject:

Normandy · Star Player Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 1468

When Kobe accomplishes as much as Jordan, I'll say he's better. So far he didn't do anything w/o Shaq.

astrallionheart · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: