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targetman
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 Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: Phil considered putting JJackson on inactive list |
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Saw this on another board. What sense would it make to pick up some 35 year old shooter and stick him on the inactive roster? Doesn't bode well for playing time for Jim, seeing as he keeps all the other bench warmers active.
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Web Posted: 03/07/2006 12:31 AM CST
Johnny Ludden
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LOS ANGELES — Lakers coach Phil Jackson said he was leaning toward putting Jim Jackson on the inactive roster until assistant coach Brian Shaw convinced him otherwise at Monday morning's shootaround.
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2Cleva
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| The inactive list can be changed from game to game. All that means is he didn't want JJ to suit up for that one game. |
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Confusing thread title. 
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I'm trying to understand why so many think JJ is ready to run out on the floor just yet. JJ may not enter a game till about the end of the month. He has no idea what the Lakers are doing. It would have been nice if Phoenix Knew they were going to cut JJ lose that they would have done it a little earlier... Ofcourse the Lakers got him extremely cheap but, damn I just don't know how he is going to grasp the offense effectively enough between now, and the playoffs...
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LakerFan4Lyfe
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| It shouldnt bother us at all considering all the Trades we did before the trade deadline :roll: |
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tgf5
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | I'm trying to understand why so many think JJ is ready to run out on the floor just yet. JJ may not enter a game till about the end of the month. He has no idea what the Lakers are doing. It would have been nice if Phoenix Knew they were going to cut JJ lose that they would have done it a little earlier... Ofcourse the Lakers got him extremely cheap but, damn I just don't know how he is going to grasp the offense effectively enough between now, and the playoffs... |
Saying he has no idea is ridiculous. He learned an offense he was good at scoring 25ppg one time early in his career. Anyways, I don't think we want him to do much except make shots and trust me, he can. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know. It seems other teams can pick up a player and play him immediately and effectively. |
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2Cleva
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Let me say this slowly - He missed one game that was on the same day he signed with the team. What, you expected a triple double the same night?
Tim Thomas had at least a full practice, if not 2, before playing with Phoenix and you guys expect him to start right after the press conference.
Please.
And again, the inactive list is on a game-to-game basis. It isn't a minimum of 5 games out like it was before.
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expecting JJ to transform this team, or even make a significant difference, is clutching at straws. that's not meant to be a criticism of JJ, but how much difference can one player off the bench make?
we are what we are this year - 8th, at best. |
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| LakerFan4Lyfe wrote: | | It shouldnt bother us at all considering all the Trades we did before the trade deadline :roll: |
I did a little research and discovered that the Lakers activity at this trade deadline matched what has been the norm for the franchise over the past decade. So Mitch didn't do anything differently this year than in any other. Makes it difficult to understand the surprise as there wasn't any. The Lakers have never really been trade deadline players. Not in contender
years and not in rebuilding years. It's simply not the MO of this organisation. They've always preferred to make their aquisitions in the off season and see them through for at least a season. Seems like a smart and measured approach that's been working for the organization for some time....
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2Cleva
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| osj wrote: | expecting JJ to transform this team, or even make a significant difference, is clutching at straws. that's not meant to be a criticism of JJ, but how much difference can one player off the bench make?
we are what we are this year - 8th, at best. |
One player can be crucial. LA has lost many games because of lack of execution on either end. Having a guy who has been through the wars already is huge.
Brian Shaw didn't play for the entire season before he signed with LA. LA may never get off the ringless streak without him. |
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| II Cleva wrote: | | osj wrote: | expecting JJ to transform this team, or even make a significant difference, is clutching at straws. that's not meant to be a criticism of JJ, but how much difference can one player off the bench make?
we are what we are this year - 8th, at best. |
One player can be crucial. LA has lost many games because of lack of execution on either end. Having a guy who has been through the wars already is huge.
Brian Shaw didn't play for the entire season before he signed with LA. LA may never get off the ringless streak without him. |
I think we just need a guy who is a consistent perimeter threat who you can count on to make shots and last season he was all about that. |
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Yeah and the Lakers are running a different system that requires all 5 guys to be on the same page.
I expect atleast a week of practices (Like with Turiaf) before JJ gets some PT. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Yeah and the Lakers are running a different system that requires all 5 guys to be on the same page.
I expect atleast a week of practices (Like with Turiaf) before JJ gets some PT. |
Exactly the point.
New Thread Title: Phil contemplating to bench Jim Jackson.......for ? games.
The inactive list replaces the disabled list from seasons past. Nothing to fret about if Phil wants to bench JJ. He just doesn't want to throw him into the pack of wolves. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Yeah and the Lakers are running a different system that requires all 5 guys to be on the same page.
I expect atleast a week of practices (Like with Turiaf) before JJ gets some PT. |
like Mitch Richmond had a whole year worth of practices and only a handful of minutes to show for it. I don't know what's with Phil and Mitch Kupchak's pickups, he seems so reluctant to use them.
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| Drifts wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Yeah and the Lakers are running a different system that requires all 5 guys to be on the same page.
I expect atleast a week of practices (Like with Turiaf) before JJ gets some PT. |
like Mitch Richmond had a whole year worth of practices and only a handful of minutes to show for it. I don't know what's with Phil and Mitch Kupchak's pickups, he seems so reluctant to use them. |
True.
But then there's Brian Shaw who got big minutes.
I think it really depends on the player. I think Phil liked McKie and also likes Jackson. But Phil brings players along slowly because he always wants them to learn and read before just applying themselves. Unfortunately with McKie he has been injured almost all season. Jackson if healthy, will get a shot to take Walton's spot IMO. |
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 Wofly imagine how much reading Mckie has gotten in this season?
Aaron should be able to put out a duel thesis on The tri as it parrallels ZEN
Aaron better get his ass up before April! Even if he has to play in a wheelchair. Aaron has got paid two years, and hasn't did (bleep)!
Hell yeah, I'm mad! I want millions to kick back at home too!
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| The only potential bright spot is that Aaron could be used in trades this summer as a contract throw in to make salaries work. |
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | LakerFan4Lyfe wrote: | | It shouldnt bother us at all considering all the Trades we did before the trade deadline :roll: |
I did a little research and discovered that the Lakers activity at this trade deadline matched what has been the norm for the franchise over the past decade. So Mitch didn't do anything differently this year than in any other. Makes it difficult to understand the surprise as there wasn't any. The Lakers have never really been trade deadline players. Not in contender
years and not in rebuilding years. It's simply not the MO of this organisation. They've always preferred to make their aquisitions in the off season and see them through for at least a season. Seems like a smart and measured approach that's been working for the organization for some time.... |
Research? Would you care to share the source of your information pertaining to with who, and about wht, the Lakers discussed with other teams in terms of trade propositions. I would love to hear this one. Was it John Black?
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| PrplReign wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | LakerFan4Lyfe wrote: | | It shouldnt bother us at all considering all the Trades we did before the trade deadline :roll: |
I did a little research and discovered that the Lakers activity at this trade deadline matched what has been the norm for the franchise over the past decade. So Mitch didn't do anything differently this year than in any other. Makes it difficult to understand the surprise as there wasn't any. The Lakers have never really been trade deadline players. Not in contender
years and not in rebuilding years. It's simply not the MO of this organisation. They've always preferred to make their aquisitions in the off season and see them through for at least a season. Seems like a smart and measured approach that's been working for the organization for some time.... |
Research? Would you care to share the source of your information pertaining to with who, and about wht, the Lakers discussed with other teams in terms of trade propositions. I would love to hear this one. Was it John Black? |
Definitely not. I'm not one of the ones on here who even pretends to know what goes on behind the walls of Lakers headquarters and even more specifically behind the closed doors and on the phone lines of Mitch Kupchak. That's why I never jump in the fray when all this conjecture about "potential" trades comes up. I can easily admit I'm in the dark about "Potential" . I simply follow what actually happens in reality and the reality is the Lakers seldom trade at the trade deadline. People here act as if this year was something unique and it most certainly isn't. They may do a lot of talking about "potential" trades but it's always been just that - talking, because the VERY seldom EVER pull the trigger at the trade deadline and this year was no different....
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| II Cleva wrote: | | The inactive list can be changed from game to game. All that means is he didn't want JJ to suit up for that one game. |
exactly!
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Yeah and the Lakers are running a different system that requires all 5 guys to be on the same page.
I expect atleast a week of practices (Like with Turiaf) before JJ gets some PT. |
Can you explain to me exactly, why this will be the case, we have little more then 19 games left Turiaf is not ready, JJ can give us something right now through offense & defense.
There isn't much time left in this season everything needs to get worked out now if the Lakers want to make a solid run... |
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If one player does not know this particular system, the entire squad out on the floor will suffer for it. As has been said, the Triangle players have to be on the same page, their movements coordinated and their reactions have to be adjusted on the spot. You can't just walk into it and expect to be in the flow, you have to practice it.
Remember, there are very very few set "plays" in this system. |
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| True, I don't get what the point of signing him was if he isn't going to be used. |
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