JA($$) Adande Respnds to my email

Vandal08 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: JA($$) Adande Respnds to my email

Hey guys/gals...here is the set up. After reading JA's article on why the latest allegations against Bonds shouldn't preclude him from entering the Hall and in particular his last paragraph of said article, I had an epiphany of sorts...here's what I wrote and his response. I guess these folks simply cannot come up with an original statement. I'm debating if I have the time, energy or bandwith to keep the dialogue going with Adande. We'll see. Here you go. Thoughts? (Oh, for the "crazy's", I adjusted my email, real name, below so I don't have to get bombarded with dumb emails to my personal address--so don't bother)

I'm paraphrasing...

JA said in the article that Bonds should not be denied entrance to the HOF despite the personal feelings that writers feel about him...
(probably should read from the bottom of this post first to see what I wrote to him in response, then his answer, but you all will follow it regardless)

From: "Adande, J A" <J.A.Adande@latimes.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:04:10 -0800
To: "'Brandon'" <bfharris@mag.com>
Subject: RE: Great Article on Bonds and I agree

Brandon:

It's never personal. Believe me, if it was personal I'd never write a single positive word about Bonds because I can't stand the guy.

I gave Kobe the lashings he deserved the previous two seasons because he and his play were largely responsible for the Lakers losing to Detroit, the breakup of the powerhouse and their descent into mediocrity.

He's having a phenomenal season this year, but he's not my MVP. It's more than just scoring a lot of points. It usually goes to the key player on an elite team, and I agree with that philosophy. Kobe doesn't utilize and improve the players around him...if anything his game can suppress them. That's why, yes, I'd vote for Nash.

J.A. Adande

-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon [mailto:bfharris@mag.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:35 PM
To: j.a.adande ( a t ) latimes.com
Subject: Great Article on Bonds and I agree

JA

Now my question to you is will you and your colleagues personal disdain for Kobe Bryant preclude you from voting for him as MVP?

In your defense, you have recently cut the guy some slack after vilifying him practically every time you wrote about him or appeared on "Around the horn" last year...but I was wondering if the reasonable logic you used for Bonds (particulary the last paragraph of your article) would be used for Bryant and the MVP vote.

Please don't give me the knee-jerk response that it's Nash. You and I both know if Kobe is off the Lakers they are the worst team in the league fighting Atlanta and Toronto for the most lotto balls in the draft drawing. If Nash is off the Suns, they still are within the top 5 seeds in the West. Thoughts?

Thanks,

I suppose I will respond to his vitriol at a later date. But you all, if so inclined can provide me with some "counterpoints" to his bias in the interim. I'll keep you all posted on if we can remove Shaq's sack from his chin.
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Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

You can actually own this guy pretty easy...I can't believe he brought up cliches (the bogus making teammates better) and all those old stuff against Kobe. The lies (Shaq leaving and loss to Detroit) and all the made up stuff. That's so (bleep) funny...I can't believe how easy this would be...go for it dude!!!
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JUST-MING · Retired Number Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 43983

Where was Smush Parker last year?

Fourplay · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:54 am Post subject:

J Adande is a F#@## B#$#! The m#$@ F#$#! Can go to F#$#@ hell. Why the f ( a t ) #$! would you even talk to a b#$@ like that. He ain't even from LA and if he is, we don't claim him

tw-lakbfan · Franchise Player Joined: 29 Jun 2001 Posts: 16636

Deserved lashings? Nonsense. Oh, Kobe was responsible in some part in J Ass Adande's mind, so he lashed on him. Fine and dandy, but why no lashings on Shaq and Phil as though they weren't responsible at all?

Hasn't Kobe already make some of his no/limitd-talent teammates better?

However, J Ass is a thorough hater along with his top to the bottom latimes collegues. So, no reasoning can cure them. I don't expect anything better from them except the usual hatred.

At least now J Ass and Plastic rarely write on the latimes and spare us their crap.

hoopschick29 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:28 am Post subject:

In Adande's mind, as in many others, Shaq and Phil were victims of Kobe's evil master plan. And whether they admit it or not, it's a big factor in their decision-making when it comes to things like MVP.

That being said, 3 years ago Kobe was that great player on an elite team and could still only muster 8 MVP votes.

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So by J.A$$' logic, then, Barroid Bonds deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because he makes his teammates better? Huh?

JUST-MING · Retired Number Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 43983

If 30/7/6/2/1 can only garner 8 MVP votes on a 50 win team, Kobe doesn't have much of a chance

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targetman · Star Player Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 5503

I wouldn't respond to the idiot, you can't win. He parrots every uneducated remark heard in the sports editorial section: he forced shaq out (used to be that kobe forced phil out too but that one is a little hard to sell these days, he snitched, he doesn't make his teammates better, no one wants to play with him, blah blah blah). You'll notice that Adande and Plaschke rarely write about the Lakers anymore. They were probably taken off the beat because they couldn't muster anything decent to say. Personally I think it cut into Adande's duties as the Miami Heat PR spokesman.

ANYWAY, the one point that I am curious about at this point is this, are they getting better? Can someone show a comparison of Mihm, Kwame, Cook, DGeorge, LWalton, Smush, and Profit's stats from year one of playing with the Lakers to now? If Devean and Luke have gotten better then you'd have to give Kobe some credit, since they started with Shaq and Kobe. I'm thinking that if you see any improvement in their stats Adande will attribute it all to Phil, because that's what Haters do.
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Mailman04 · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 904

I wrote Adande and ripped him when he tore into George early in the season. He is one of the more ego driven reporters out there. He is a jerk. He said if he did his job like George he would be fired, but instead he got a raise. I told him good job fooling his bosses, not reporting. He is trash.

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dadliboi · Star Player Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 2891

Vandal,

When you respond to that idiot, be sure to relate to him Shaq's lazy, selfish, childish, egotistical behavior that was a huge reason for the Lakers break-up. You be sure to let him know that nobody, and I mean NOBODY yells, "Pay me my (expletive) money" to Dr. Buss. Be sure to relate to him the incident where Mr. Lardarse screwed us over by "healing on company time". What a freakin leader he was. :roll:
I could go on and on. You could easily put this fool in his place.

I honestly don't know how some of these guys get the jobs that they have. Sometimes I feel like they just write what ever gets the biggest rise out of people. They have absolutely no interest in writing the truth.
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raffi · LG Contributor Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 9987

I don't see what the big deal is.

Most of the posters on this board agree that Kobe isn't the MVP. Lakers need to win 50 games for Kobe to get serious consideration. Otherwise it's Nash.

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Texas_Pete · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject:

Ask that idiot how come he spends more time on ESPN than he does covering Laker basketball? I wonder if he has written more Clipper (or Heat) articles this year.

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Vandal08 · Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject:

If Kobe is not the MVP, then I don't know what an MVP is. He can't simply do more than he is now.
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Stylistic Stylez · Star Player Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 4336

yea adande sounded so stupid in ur email response...he got serviced by you homie
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