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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: OT - Gilbert Arenas

I've been watching more of him lately. He's a heck of a player.

Super quick with streetball handles, sharp from long range and a great finisher too.

too bad it seems he might not fit well with the Lakeshow, because he seems to be a scoring PG
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject:

Yea, he's a good player, but the big reason why he can't fit w/ us? He makes too much money and he does not want to share the spot light. He wants to be the MAN: reason why he left Golden State.

Also, he plays no defense! He gets steals, but he doesnt make smart decisions on defense.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Arenas > Wade...
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject:

LakerGreatNumber8 wrote:
Arenas > Wade...



Oooh. Tough one. I wonder how GA would do with a dominant big man like Shaq. Wade definitely can't shoot as well as Arenas. But Wade has better defense (though it's not much) and better interior moves.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject:

Arenas

PPG 29.3
RPG 3.5
APG 6.1
SPG 2.01
BPG .31
FG% .447
FT% .820
3P% .369

MPG 42.3

Wade

PPG 27.2
RPG 5.7
APG 6.7
SPG 1.95
BPG .77
FG% .495
FT% .783
3P% .171
MPG 38.6

Wade is a better rebounder, only + .6 in assists (with Shaq + better teammates), steals are close, blocks are close (doesn't matter anyways), and Wade shoots a higher percentage, but doesn't take three pointers and averages about 4 more FTA a game. Put Gilbert on Miami and they represent the East in the NBA Finals.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject:

LakerGreatNumber8 wrote:
Put Gilbert on Miami and they represent the East in the NBA Finals.



Who knows. Would they be more successful than Kobe and Shaq?
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject:

too bad hes a piss poor defender. Other than that, Gilbert is cool. 8)
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
LakerGreatNumber8 wrote:
Put Gilbert on Miami and they represent the East in the NBA Finals.



Who knows. Would they be more successful than Kobe and Shaq?


I wouldn't say more successful, but they would have a chance to win a ring or two...Gilbert is the type of player that will provide the leadership the Heat are lacking. He would set Payton, Walker, Williams, and anyone else who is an idiot straight and tell Shaq like it is...something that Kobe did (tell Shaq like it is) to Shaq, which I think motivated him as a player even though he had the hate for Kobe as a person.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject:

Arenas shoots his team in and out of a lot of games. i'd take wade over him anytime.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject:

lakersfan4life78 wrote:
Arenas shoots his team in and out of a lot of games. i'd take wade over him anytime.


Arenas has to shoot his team in and out of games...if Jamison or Butler are having an off night, nobody else can score. He doesn't have an inside scoring presence like Shaq, a rebounding presence like Haslem or Mourning, or shooters like Williams and Walker around him.

Wade has 7 teammates average over 7 pts (20, 12.3, 12.2, 9.3, 7.8, 7.7, 7.2) , and 3 average over 10.

Arenas has 5 teammates average over 7 pts (20.5, 17.6, 9.6, 9.3, 7.3), and 2 average over 10. (Note: 1 of 5, 9.3 is Jarvis Hayes...who has played 21 games)
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject:

I was impressed tonight...

He's got Iverson-class quickness and has a good idea on how to use it...

Hard to believe he fell to the second round. Yeah he's a tweener but he clearly has nice athleticism.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
LakerGreatNumber8 wrote:
Arenas > Wade...



Oooh. Tough one. I wonder how GA would do with a dominant big man like Shaq. Wade definitely can't shoot as well as Arenas. But Wade has better defense (though it's not much) and better interior moves.

wade can block shots well. but so what, you're on the perimeter, where you need to have lateral movement, and great instincts. wade doesn't have either of those 2. or maybe he does and doesn't use them. gilbert has slightly better man to man de. slightly. but offensive game is better. he still gets to the line with the best of em, and he can hit the 3 ball with consistency. he just doesn't dunk on people. which we all love to see.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject:

jwbrown77 wrote:
I was impressed tonight...

He's got Iverson-class quickness and has a good idea on how to use it...

Hard to believe he fell to the second round. Yeah he's a tweener but he clearly has nice athleticism.


Could've had him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
jwbrown77 wrote:
I was impressed tonight...

He's got Iverson-class quickness and has a good idea on how to use it...

Hard to believe he fell to the second round. Yeah he's a tweener but he clearly has nice athleticism.


Could've had him.




Don't remind us.


What's weird to me is, it sounds like this is the first time that some of you guys have really seen him play?!?!? Where you been?!?!

Arenas has serious game. But he is a little out there, too.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject:

He's very talented guy I think we should bring him to Lakers
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject:

jack13 wrote:
He's very talented guy I think we should bring him to Lakers


For who...?
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject:

jack13 wrote:
He's very talented guy I think we should bring him to Lakers


Why would the Wiz trade him?
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject:

Arenas has made it clear that he wants to be top dog. We already have filled that position. We're looking for a role player
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject:

Arenas is having excellent season and he's main factor why Wizards is so good right now.
And we all must remember he's only 24. WOW.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject:

Washington Post - Gilbert Arenas paid the Cleveland Cavaliers locker room a visit following the Wizards' overtime loss on Wednesday night. He came to see his good friend and former teammate from their days in Golden State and Washington, but he couldn't help but speak to the man who combined with Arenas to score 89 points in Game 5.

more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/40345/20060504/arenas_visits_cavaliers_locker_room_following_overtime_loss/


This is one funny dude, he stole a throwback jersey from Chris Mullens house and went to practice with it, then admited he plays online poker at halftime, and now this.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject:

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too bad hes a piss poor defender. Other than that, Gilbert is cool. 8)


He is probably the most talented guy at his size right now in the league.

That said, I agree with you. He plays very marginal defense. His teams are always among the worst defensive teams in the league and while that certainly isn't all his fault, it probably isn't a total coincidence either.

But on offense? The guy is sensational. Grant HS, Van Nuys, CA
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject:

Lakers tried to move up to get him in the draft.

He's an outstanding player and would fit well IMO because he's a great spot-up shooter but can create (and make) his own shot.

He has a history of "character issues" dating back to Grant HS, but so do a lot of other guys.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject:

Gilbert is a beast! Remember, just a second round draft pick. Love watching his game.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject:

AirKobe8 wrote:
This is one funny dude, he stole a throwback jersey from Chris Mullens house and went to practice with it, then admited he plays online poker at halftime, and now this.


I mentioned it earlier, Gilbert es un poco mal de la cabeza.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject:

Gilbert is fools gold.

You will never win anything with a guy that plays his style being the main man. He's one of those players where people say, he takes a lot of bad shots, but when you're as good as him it's ok.

It doesn't and won't work. Incredible talent, but unless he learns to play within the offense it means nothing.
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