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- Sean - Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: Shaq On Riley: "He's actually been the best coach I've ever had." |
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When it comes to the raw numbers of coaching NBA champions, Phil Jackson has doubled, plus one, Heat coach Pat Riley's total of four. But in the raw coaching category, one supreme-sized judge who has played for both ranks Riley ahead of Jackson.
''I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but he's actually been the best coach I've ever had,'' Heat center Shaquille O'Neal said Sunday of Riley.
O'Neal and Jackson were together five seasons with Los Angeles. With Kobe Bryant, they were the main thrusters in the Lakers returning to the stratospheric heights the franchise had not known since the Magic Johnson/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar days under Riley.
''We all know his résumé,'' O'Neal said. ``We all know he knows what he's talking about. When he talks, guys listen. I've heard a lot of horrifying stories about him, but I haven't seen it.
``We haven't had any problems. He'll come at me every now and then, but if he knows that's what it takes to get me going, that's what he'll do.''
O'Neal then described Riley's terse reaction to his performance in Game 5 vs. Detroit. On the flight back to Miami, Riley came to the front of the plane, dropped a couple of curse words on O'Neal and left.
''He's the Italian version of my father. I don't know if he's Italian or not,'' O'Neal said with a smile, likely knowing that Riley is of Irish descent.
``Very straightforward. Whatever he says, he does, backs it up.''
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TheRod Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: |
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:roll: Yeah, yeah. Everythings the "best" for the Big Ingrate. I'm surprised he hasen't said that his ingrown toenail is the 'best' ingrown toenail ever. |
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Dorray Star Player
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 3494 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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TheRod wrote: | :roll: Yeah, yeah. Everythings the "best" for the Big Ingrate. I'm surprised he hasen't said that his ingrown toenail is the 'best' ingrown toenail ever. |
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Bergamotichek Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I suppose this is the "best team" he's ever been on, also.
Snaq has the memory of a child. Everything good that happens to him, is the best its ever been. |
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magic_bryant Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: |
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JD wrote: | I suppose this is the "best team" he's ever been on, also.
Snaq has the memory of a child. Everything good that happens to him, is the best its ever been. |
He really seems to have a mental problem. He's far too childish for a man that age. _________________ Stephon Marbury on Kobe: "He's the only person on 'dis earth that can do 'dat. He guards people, like shuts 'em down. Then, to do 'dat on 'da offensive end. It's like 'Damn, I can't score on him AND he about to bust my ass." |
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TACH Retired Number
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 28461 Location: Chillin on the Delaware.. from the Jersey Side
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Did you really expect anything different from Snaq's? |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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shaq was eating a sandwich at the time that he described as "actually the best sandwich i've ever had". |
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Basketball Fan Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 24761
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: |
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* Awaiting Phil's book on Shaq coming out in Fall of 2008* |
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The Mike Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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You goota love ole Riely though, in a day and age of catering to players because of their talent and feelings he is still get in people Stuff. _________________ "Kobe Bryant is an absolute nightmare. You can hold your breath, send for help, sacrifice a chicken, it won't matter. Kobe Bryant is coming for you. He's got the ball and he's going to score...some way, some how."
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Another_laker_fan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Whatever...... |
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LucasWhite Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the 3 greatest ever in my opinion.
1. Red Auerbach
2. Phil Jackson
3. Pat Riley _________________ As I've said since Day 1, Bynum will be a bust and we should have drafted Gerald Green instead. |
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doughboy90650 Franchise Player
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 15294 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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LucasWhite wrote: | Here are the 3 greatest ever in my opinion.
1. Red Auerbach
2. Phil Jackson
3. Pat Riley |
The Coaches Holy Trinity. The question to answer though is who would be number four. I think those three are obvious choices for the top 3 spots. And they are just head and shoulders above everyone else. |
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The Mike Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if Larry Brown in number 4, but I would put him there or at least at the 4-7 spots. _________________ "Kobe Bryant is an absolute nightmare. You can hold your breath, send for help, sacrifice a chicken, it won't matter. Kobe Bryant is coming for you. He's got the ball and he's going to score...some way, some how."
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GLBronze Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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This is the same player who claimed he would never play for anyone other than Phil Jackson? |
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Texas_Pete Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 12825 Location: Somewhere watching a Laker game
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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LucasWhite wrote: | Here are the 3 greatest ever in my opinion.
1. Red Auerbach
2. Phil Jackson
3. Pat Riley |
Screw Riley. Poppovich is better |
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Basketball Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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GLBronze wrote: | This is the same player who claimed he would never play for anyone other than Phil Jackson? |
Shh we're supposed to not remember that part. |
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_LAKESHOW_ Star Player
Joined: 22 Apr 2001 Posts: 6138 Location: hot dog stand across from staples
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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he likes someone because they led him to the eastern conference finals??
what happens when dallas wins the title?
he used to laugh at sacramento and the rest for only hanging division banners or lesser banners than title ones.
he however has gotten caught up with the euphoria of makin it to the finals, but not finishing the job.
if dallas takes 'em down, and im predicting that they will, just too much talent ... but when dallas takes 'em down he will have lowered his standards to the likes of the queens.
and then HE WILL KNOW . . . championships only come through top notch quality organizations . . . like the great one that he left behind. _________________ Los Angeles Lakers |
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Narziss Starting Rotation
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 534 Location: Dallas
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny that people always get so bent out of shape over such statements. Of course he's going to say that about his current team, coach and players. Especially during the playoffs and Finals. Get over it. |
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Zhengi Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Narziss wrote: | It's funny that people always get so bent out of shape over such statements. Of course he's going to say that about his current team, coach and players. Especially during the playoffs and Finals. Get over it. |
Why don't you get over the comments others make about Shaq? _________________ I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce! |
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lakersfreak Franchise Player
Joined: 11 Apr 2001 Posts: 12389 Location: Riverside Rescue
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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What's he supposed to say, my current coach is not as good as my last coach? |
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- Sean - Star Player
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 7339 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfreak wrote: | What's he supposed to say, my current coach is not as good as my last coach? |
It doesn't even warrant a comparison. One guy helped him get 3 rings and an equivalent amount of Finals MVP's...after years of being called a choker....and the other got him a Conference Title. It's not an appropriate time to make the comparison IMO....Shaq may have other ways of gauging how good a coach is though. |
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Socks Franchise Player
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10761 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure Stan Van Gundy appreciates that comment after Shaq helped screw him out of his job. |
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Klassix Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think this dig was more directed at Stan Van Jeremy than the Lakers or Phil, even though obviously Phil is ahead of Riley. |
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SiRQB11 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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even many of you guys here say you hate PJ. i could see it being a valid comment. Maybe he likes Pats style of dealing w/ players more than Phils layed back zen style. some of you act like jealous ex-girlfriends when you hear a Shaq comment. |
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magic_bryant Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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SiRQB11 wrote: | even many of you guys here say you hate PJ. i could see it being a valid comment. Maybe he likes Pats style of dealing w/ players more than Phils layed back zen style. some of you act like jealous ex-girlfriends when you hear a Shaq comment. |
Doesn't matter. 3 Titles vs 1 Finals appearance.
PJ is the best. Simple as that.
And while you say some sound like a jealous ex-gf, others sound like a jealous current girlfriend with the way they defend Shaq. _________________ Stephon Marbury on Kobe: "He's the only person on 'dis earth that can do 'dat. He guards people, like shuts 'em down. Then, to do 'dat on 'da offensive end. It's like 'Damn, I can't score on him AND he about to bust my ass." |
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