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angel
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It won't happen.
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THE_SHOES
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Here we go...
Lets pour some more water on this "un-killable fire"
"One rumor of the Los Angeles Lakers sending Lamar Odom for the Bulls’ two first-round picks isn’t likely to happen."
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/beatwriters.asp?column=mcgraw&id=200651
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limchrc
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Personally, I don't know what's going to happen... which kind of makes the days leading up to draft interesting. |
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bluestorm1990
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Please to god Lakers don't make this trade. Why waste 2 years for rebuilding just start rebuilding all over again for another 3-4 years. |
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THE_SHOES
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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NOt to worry... There is no way that the Lakers are going to add two rookies to this starting lineup, not through this method anyway...
The Lakers may like Roy, but not enough to wait for him to mature enough to get to a tittle. Lakers are looking toward next year to win, not 2010... This is a joke that won't go away...
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Savory Griddles
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Your 2006-2007 Los Angeles Lakers
Kwame
Odom
Miles
Kobe
Banks
Deal with it people. |
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RCS926
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Savory Griddles wrote: | Your 2006-2007 Los Angeles Lakers
Kwame
Odom
Miles
Kobe
Banks
Deal with it people. |
That team could do some damage. If Turiaf and Bynum provided some toughness/defense and the Lakers added a go-to perimeter scorer off the bench, then that team could do some SERIOUS damage. |
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ValisJason
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Id like that lineup. I still dont think its a championship contending lineup. I hope it will at least contend for the Pacific Division, though that is hard to imagine with the expected improvements of the Suns (Amare) and probably the Clippers too (experience). Make no mistake, I would love to see what Phil could do with that lineup of athletes.
At this point though, I am not even sure if the Lakers make the trade for Miles. I am starting to worry that Mihm wont get traded. Its hard to imagine, but its starting to feel that way. Just a hunch though. And if he is traded, I am starting to doubt that it won't be for a starter quality athlete such as Miles. |
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ValisJason
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| RCS926 wrote: |
That team could do some damage. If Turiaf and Bynum provided some toughness/defense and the Lakers added a go-to perimeter scorer off the bench, then that team could do some SERIOUS damage. |
By the way, your "go to perimeter scoring" is going to be Sasha, Smush, and Walton. Maybe Rush and Profit. Doesnt inspire fear in the opposition, I know. |
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RCS926
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| ValisJason wrote: | | RCS926 wrote: |
That team could do some damage. If Turiaf and Bynum provided some toughness/defense and the Lakers added a go-to perimeter scorer off the bench, then that team could do some SERIOUS damage. |
By the way, your "go to perimeter scoring" is going to be Sasha, Smush, and Walton. Maybe Rush and Profit. Doesnt inspire fear in the opposition, I know. |
That's why I said the Lakers need to "add" a go-to perimeter scorer off the bench. I don't think any of our perimeter players on the roster can be a go-to scorer. Only Wafer has that type of potential, but realistically, the Lakers need to acquire a perimeter player elsewhere if they want some scoring punch off the bench. |
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hoopschick29
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Forget the bench. The Lakers needs a perimeter player/scorer in the starting lineup. We need somebody than can stretch defense and at least make defenses think about guarding someone other than Kobe.
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CaliKing
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lamar Odom and Chris Mihm along with the Laker pick and maybe a conditional next year.
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Both Bulls picks, Chandler and Ben Gordon would be what I would go after.
Maybe Im on the pipe...I dunno  |
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Mailman04
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| They need to get 2 and 16 if they trade Odom. The Lakers may have to throw in 26, but you can't trade Lamar for No. 2 in my opinion. 2 and 16 you take a long hard look at that and probably do it. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Mailman04 wrote: | | They need to get 2 and 16 if they trade Odom. The Lakers may have to throw in 26, but you can't trade Lamar for No. 2 in my opinion. 2 and 16 you take a long hard look at that and probably do it. |
#2 and #16 for Odom and #26? Madness. From our side.
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Tarzan008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I get this feeling.... With all the trade talk etc,etc... coming from all sides and the apparent love affair the lakers and Roy have with one another that something is going down....
But I believe that the lakers know what they have in Odom,and short of lebron or a couple others would not part ways with odom.He is a rare commodity,a versatile talent,that from what I see and hear gets along real well with our current in house Super-star Kobe....
I think lamar is a perfect fit with Kobe.But we do need more to get back to elite status.....
Does Pjax have the patience and or time to wait on Bynum?
Thus I think we will be sending Bynum and Mihm with the 26th pick and extras for the #2 pick (roy) and Chandler......Plus sign Banks with the MLE.....Just a prediction and gut feeling from your friendly ape-man tarzan.....  
Roy/Banks
Kobe/banks
Lamar
Chandler
Kwame
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THE_SHOES
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| hoopschick29 wrote: | | Forget the bench. The Lakers needs a perimeter player/scorer in the starting lineup. We need somebody than can stretch defense and at least make defenses think about guarding someone other than Kobe. |
Defenses were collapsing on LO in the high post last season. What the Lakers have to do is become more efficient in the system. They aren't yet as efficient as they could be in reading defenses, and reacting with "veteran like" smoothness with their executions yet. This season that should change... With the Lakers speed, we should see a lot more alley oops, and layups. It's all about working the system. It'll come...
They will still need a sniper though. your right about that. Defenses will have to double on LO, and Kobe. Neither of them can be covered one on one. All they'll need is a reliable, and consistent outlet that draws fear in this league to dish to...
Smush? Sasha? New mystery Laker?
I'm just hoping that Kwame Brown shows up with two legs, instead of one next season. That should be hell a interesting. I had no idea that he was defending like that on a bad leg... This team is going to suprise Laker fans. Everybody except me ofcourse! 8)
If the Lakers do pick up Miles, and Banks?
In the words of Horace Grant some years ago before he left Seattle to join Shaq, and Kobe.
"You can measure us right now for the rings!"
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Tarzan008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Miles and banks seems to be a great fit.While still keeping Bynum and odom.
Miles and banks in there instead of walton and Smush as starters to me is a very good upgrade.I recall last season Kobe talking about getting 2 nice pieces to get where we need to be.........Well I think Miles and Banks are those pieces.While retaining Bynum and lamar......
But somehow I get this feeling more is in the works.....Bynum/Mihm/26 pick/ for #2 and Chandler deal I mentioned above in this thread...... |
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THE_SHOES
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What? You look confused...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tarzan008 wrote: | Miles and banks seems to be a great fit.While still keeping Bynum and odom.
Miles and banks in there instead of walton and Smush as starters to me is a very good upgrade.I recall last season Kobe talking about getting 2 nice pieces to get where we need to be.........Well I think Miles and Banks are those pieces.While retaining Bynum and lamar......
But somehow I get this feeling more is in the works.....Bynum/Mihm/26 pick/ for #2 and Chandler deal I mentioned above in this thread...... |
One question about Roy... Why does Jordan think he is going to be able to land Roy for the Bobcats? I wonder what his plan is?
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angel
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers won't blow it all up to start over again. The Lakers have been together long enough to begin seeing a team. This is prime time for Kobe. Kobe needs primetime players, not rookies. Why waste it on resetting the window for three years later?
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All of these posts advocating the trading of Lamar and yet not one person will wager aginst his being on the Lakers' roster next season. I am serious about this offer and am willing to back it pretty strongly. If you armchair GMs want to put your money where your mouths are, my PM box is waiting. Otherwise, why don't you just drop it because LO will be a Laker on opening day of the 06-07 season. Bank it.
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The way I see it is if we somehow manage to trade up in the lottery to draft Brandon Roy then it was to be a deal that does not inculded Odom.If we can somehow manage to get a deal done for Chicago's #2 pick here is what I'd propose:
Bynum
Mihm
Lakers 26th pick
A resigned Devean George
Brian Cook
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Bulls # 2 and one of the following players:
Tyson Chandler
Luol Deng
Ben Gordon
Chris Duhon
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Tarzan008
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | Tarzan008 wrote: | Miles and banks seems to be a great fit.While still keeping Bynum and odom.
Miles and banks in there instead of walton and Smush as starters to me is a very good upgrade.I recall last season Kobe talking about getting 2 nice pieces to get where we need to be.........Well I think Miles and Banks are those pieces.While retaining Bynum and lamar......
But somehow I get this feeling more is in the works.....Bynum/Mihm/26 pick/ for #2 and Chandler deal I mentioned above in this thread...... |
One question about Roy... Why does Jordan think he is going to be able to land Roy for the Bobcats? I wonder what his plan is? |
Yup I know Shoes..... he is a sneaky one this guy they call MJ....
I quess he feels that if he is still up on the board he is a guy to consider.Perhaps he knows just what his buddy Kupchak (north carolina alumni) is up too...?.... No Roy in the Bulls or Lakers plans?
1 week to go,hopefully we will be more in the know by than.Just been too many rumors from credible places for me to think nothing will happen,but more crazy things than that have happened.I just hope we get better,with a solid trade or two.,while not messing up a good solid base.
Getting the #2 and Chandler while keeping Lamar is perfect.But than we lose the "What could be guy (Bynum).....?
Sometimes I think the best bet is to go get Miles for Mihm,and banks with the MLE......We shall see.... |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| KB8SD wrote: | The way I see it is if we somehow manage to trade up in the lottery to draft Brandon Roy then it was to be a deal that does not inculded Odom.If we can somehow manage to get a deal done for Chicago's #2 pick here is what I'd propose:
Bynum
Mihm
Lakers 26th pick
A resigned Devean George
Brian Cook
For
Bulls # 2 and one of the following players:
Tyson Chandler
Luol Deng
Ben Gordon
Chris Duhon |
Chandler is overated. |
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