SPL 2006 Scouting Reports

angel · Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the analysis Mike!

It's clear that Farmar is mature beyond his years. Farmar commented that he admired Kobe's work ethic. As you mentioned, Farmar must have a pretty good work ethic to maintain such a low body fat. He seems the kind of player, who has something left for the fourth quarter. I'm looking forward to seeing him with Kobe to help close out games.
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If he warrants 15 minutes this upcoming season then Im happy.

LakerJam · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:23 am Post subject:

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Mike@LG · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:53 am Post subject:

Mike@LG · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:

Marcus Slaughter

1. Height – 6’7” w/o shoes, 6′8″ w/shoes
2. Wingspan – 6′11.5″
3. Weight - 220
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Solid. Shows when he rotates defensively. Always goes for the weakside block.
2. Initial quickness - Average
3. Top speed – Average. Good for a PF, but he’s 220lbs.
4. Vertical leap – Good. Demonstrated well when he’s rebounding and coming from the weakside for shotblocking opportunities.
5. Reflexes – Average
6. Strength – Average
7. Conditioning – Not enough information.
8. Footwork – Not enough information
9. Balance – Average. Can get pushed around.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – N/A
• Post play – N/A
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. Runs the triangle offense well.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Finishes effectively, though layups are a result of offensive rebounds. May not translate to NBA level.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Solid. Does hit well from midrange and is easily above 50% behind 15′. Helps space the triangle tremendously.
• Long range (19’-23′9″ or longer) – N/A

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Solid. Doesn’t get burned. Prone to getting pushed around on the block. Light post base makes him prone to post players at the PF slot. Simply cannot deny position well.
Anticipation – Average
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Solid.
Anticipation – Solid
• Team defense
Position - Solid
Anticipation – Helps out well to deny high percentage opportunities in the paint. Very active.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – Excellent. Does a good job being in the thick of things despite facing bigger players. Solid job of grabbing offensive boards.
• Energy level – Excellent
• Position – Very good
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Boxes out decently. Prone to getting pushed off the block. Grabs a good set of boards with length and good 2nd jumps. High energy play.
• Hustle – Excellent
• Energy level – Excellent
• Position – Good

Intangibles
• Leadership - N/A
• Attitude - Good
• Work Ethic - N/A
• Competitiveness - Good. Not afraid of contact in the paint. Mixes it up in the paint against bigger players.
• Unselfishness - N/A
• Toughness - Good. Not afraid of contact. Never a soft player.
• Mental - N/A
• Physical - Could really stand to gain 20lbs. of muscle.

Conclusion: 20lbs. of muscle may just buy him a backup PF position in the NBA. Slighly undersized but good wingspan to handle the position. Average athleticism. His midrange game would definitely be a saving grace to landing him on an NBA roster. He need to be a PF along the lines of Udonis Haslem, preferably with more skill and slightly more length. Would really benefit from learning guard skills overseas at European competition.
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LakerJam · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:52 am Post subject:

Mike@LG · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:45 am Post subject:

LakerJam · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject:

I disagree, Mike. I don't think Kwame's inconsistency is about anything more than what beats in his chest, what's going on upstairs, his awful hands and how those things were impacted by his stay in Washington. They completely botched how to develop a player and smashed his confidence. He can overcome it, but that's a big part of that inconsistency.

Regarding Bynum, he's 18 yrs. old. A bit premature to expect a teenager with a grand total of 2-3 years basketball experience to be anything BUT inconsistent. Even with that, it's still obvious he's a back to the basket center, even if you need to "see" him do it consistently before you'll acknowledge it.

Mike@LG · Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:01 am Post subject:

We'll just disagree then.

I understand by what you mean as Bynum being a back to the basket center, just, if he wants to prove that he's a legit center in that mold, we should see some kind of consistency with his post work.

He's showing signs in the SPL. Fine. Still lacks consistency with the jumphook and drop step. His only move is the pivot face-up jumpshot. That's it.

As for Kwame, he's got more moves, just not as refined. Imagine Bynum having 3 moves and not having refinement. Both spell inconsistency, no matter how much heart or IQ Bynum has, lackthereof with Kwame.
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LakerJam · Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:08 am Post subject:

He showed a wide array of moves tonight. Good to see. I hope he keeps it up and keeps getting better and better.

Mike@LG · Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:44 am Post subject:

It was evident from the last game he was simply out of energy and stamina.
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Mike so does Slaughter get a camp invite?

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Mike@LG · Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:52 am Post subject:

Bogut was 19 on the international team playing against NBA big boys and producing big.

Really, I'm tired of the age thing. The age thing has nothing to do with it. Skills by a certain age level? Different story.
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if bynum wasn't on the lakers would you all think he's gonna be the next shaq?

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Mike@LG · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:59 am Post subject:

Mike@LG · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:49 am Post subject:

Continued from last season.

Name: Devin Green
Player comparison: Jeryl Sasser

Size:
1. Height – 6’7”
2. Wingspan – Guestimated; 6’9”+
3. Weight - 205
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Good lateral movement. Not great, but with a combination of his length and energy, it makes him a solid defender.
2. Initial quickness - Average quickness. Not one to blow by players one on one.
3. Top speed – Average.
4. Vertical leap – Average. Haven't really seen him explode to the hoop. Doesn't finish with authority.
5. Reflexes – Quick. Quick hands. Lots of tipped passes. Pick and roll defense and reacting well to it. Loose ball? He's been there more than Turiaf.
6. Strength – Below average. Does need to bulk up.
7. Conditioning – Never looks winded despite all the high energy play and hustle.
8. Footwork – Average. Doesn't do anything fancy. Doesn't create well off the dribble unless it's in semi-transition or two put the defense at a comprimised position. Even then, it's a striaght dribble.
9. Balance – Very good. Squares up well. Never fades.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – As I said, average. Needs a screen to attack the paint, but does a great job of drawing in the defense and giving up the ball to Bynum/Turiaf for a dunk. Has improved in one year, where he drives from 15' and finishes with a layup or teardrop. May be questionable against NBA talent but is certainly more aggressive attacking the basket.
• Post play – N/A
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. A bit lost at times. Finds open spots and drifts to it, but could be more deliberate and more decisive about his timing within the triangle.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Finishes in the paint with soft shots.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Midrange shot needs a lot of work. Rarely hits. One season later, he hits more than half of his perimeter jumpshots, especially well from 15' to 20'. The added consistency helps in his favor, but I do think he should play internationally instead of the NBDL to refine his perimeter game.
• Long range (19’-23'9" or longer) – Needs work. He's among the most inconsistent shooters of the team.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Very solid. Kept up well with strong lateral quickness. Fights screen and roll situations. Gets burned at times but recovers well.
Anticipation – Great. Reacts well to the ball. In a sense, has a nose for it.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Solid. Didn’t get beat by backdoor cuts. Rarely late on rotations. Strong team defender considering the level of competition.
Anticipation – Solid ball-denial.
• Team defense
Position - Solid
Anticipation – Good. Simply has a knack for deflecting the basketball and forcing turnovers.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – Excellent. If there's a free lane, he'll charge the paint among the bigs.
• Energy level – Excellent. Really, he has more energy than Turiaf, makes less foul-prone mistakes, and stays on the floor longer.
• Position – Scrambles from the perimeter to dive into the paint for offensive rebounds.
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Doesn’t box out.
• Hustle – Hustles well after loose balls.
• Energy level –Average. Nose for the ball is prevalent when the ball is on the rim for him to chase.
• Position – Usually out of position for rebounding.

Intangibles
• Leadership – N/A
• Attitude – Good attitude. High effort all over the floor.
• Work Ethic – Took a summer camp to help improve his game. It shows in his energy level and intensity.
• Competitiveness – Quiet demeanor, but never stops trying.
• Unselfishness – Good. Rarely takes bad shots on the floor. Steps up bigmen well in pick and roll and pick and slip situations.
• Toughness – Strong competitor on both ends of the floor.
• Mental – N/A
• Physical – Decent frame. Could really use more strength. Barely looks bigger than Michael Cooper.

Summary: Should really play internationally instead of the NBDL. International coaches emphasize guard skills, and working on his perimeter shooting would helps his cause 2-fold. Polishing his handle would be great too, though he's not turnover prone. Passing ability is slightly above average. Can't throw the post pass well. Not always decisive passing in the triangle and sometimes out of positions, but does a great job of picking out his spots and making the proper play.

Improved midrange jumpshot. Has a problem with ball-protection ... handling the ball upcourt and when attacking the basket. Doesn't shield well with his body and does hold the ball improperly on jumpstops when attacking the rim, prone to being stripped. Added muscle should help here. Overall, will get another invite to Lakers camp, but is out-talented by the play of Pinnock who does everything equally, if not, far better than what Green provides.
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