SPL 2006 Scouting Reports. Farmar, Bynum, Slaughter, Green, Pinnock

[Mike@LG]

Jordan Farmar

NBA Comparison
Upside: Steve Nash (Think how long it took Nash to develop.)
Average: Luke Ridnour/Delonte West (Less quicks and jumper, more vert.)
Downside: 6'2" Marko Jaric

Athletic tests
Vert. Max Vert. Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 sprint Rank
33.5" 42" 11 11.07 3.17 12

Athletic Comparisons:
Chris Paul
N/A 38.5" 10 11.09 3.22 16 (of the 2005 draft)
Deron Williams
N/A 35" 15 10.83 3.25 10 (of the 2005 draft)

Size:
1. Height – 6'-3/4" w/o shoes, 6'2" w/shoes
2. Wingspan – 6'3"
3. Weight - 171
4. Body Fat – 4.4%

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Good. Tested at 11.07 seconds, a smidge slow for a good defensive PG. Doesn't really show on man-defense situations, but stands out when he positions himself to deny passing lanes and block angles. When he wants, can shutdown penetration against seemingly quicker PGs.
2. Initial quickness - Good. Uses a combination of the crossover along with quickness to create separation. Hasn't really been tested against a quality athletic defender. Doesn't completely go all the way to the basket from penetration, but can create high percentage shots from within 5'.
3. Top speed – Very good. Tested at 3.17 seconds for the 3/4 sprint.
4. Vertical leap – Excellent. Tested at 42". Shows when he's contesting shots and going for rebounds. Doesn't show when he's trying to finish a play. His leaping ability drops dramatically when he's got the basketball with him.
5. Reflexes – Quick. Gets into passing lanes well. Denies lanes well. Deflects well.
6. Strength – Tested with 11 bench presses, but doesn't have much of a base. A better base would allow him to be more effective protecting the dribble against bigger guards.
7. Conditioning – Never looked winded
8. Footwork – Very good. Able to change directions well. Utilizes the jumpstop well. Never fades away on jumpshots. His feet are under him all the time.
9. Balance – Very good. Didn’t get pushed on penetration.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – Quick. Utilizes ball-handling and a quick first step to create separation. Effective in creating shots or plays for tohers.
• Post play – N/A
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. Doesn't dominate the basketball at all. Maintains spacing very well while creating a passing angle to bail out his teammate along the perimeter.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Finishes well. Doesn't dunk. Layups. Has an effective 5' tear drop with high arc.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Has shown the ability to hit from midrange off the dribble.
• Long range (19’-23'9" or longer) – Very slight mechanics issues when shooting from range which leads to some inconsistency. Does a great job of setting a base, but doesn't always create great lift into the shot.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Average. Can get blown past by smaller PGs. Doesn't dictate where the PG should go effectively. Can fight screans off of pick and roll situations, when he wants to. Does a solid job cutting off angles.
Anticipation – Excellent. Quick hands allow him to steal the ball off the dribble or when exposed. Great job of ball-denial.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Solid. Didn’t get beat by backdoor cuts. Aware of his man and the location of the basketball relative to his position. Sometimes lapses. Reads lanes well.
Anticipation – Excellent. His timing is great.
• Team defense
Position - Excellent. Helps out effectively and always has a hand on the ball.
Anticipation – Excellent. Contests shooters very well, recovers very well, and knows when to apply added pressure to the opponent.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – N/A
• Energy level – N/A
• Position – N/A
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Doesn’t box out.
• Hustle – Hustles well after loose balls. Utlizes vertical leaping to compensate for the lack of box-out.
• Energy level – Good energy shown going after the basketball.
• Position – Slight nose for the ball. Weaves around opponents to get rebounds. Finds himself in traffic at times and contests well to acquire defensive rebounds.

Intangibles
• Leadership - Exerts a high amount of poise and controls tempo well. Does a great job of distribution among teammates and running the offense.
• Attitude - Good. Doesn't get too down on himself. Expects more of himself.
• Work Ethic - N/A, though 4.4% body fat and high basketball IQ came from somewhere.
• Competitiveness - Very competitive. Tends to be more assertive when running the offense doesn't work.
• Unselfishness - Very unselfish. Makes the right decision between taking high percentage shots and creating them.
• Toughness - Tends to mix it in with bigmen for rebounds. Doesn't seem to mind a little contact. Can be bothered by bigger SGs defensively, and facing bigger opponents off the dribble.
• Mental - N/A
• Physical - A tad slight of frame, even at 6'2". Doesn't really out mind-blowing quickness that allows him to compensate for strength (like Iverson, TJ Ford, Felton, etc.) Can be bothered by some contact along the perimeter.

Summary:

Farmar demonstrates great PG skills and intangibles at a high level considering his young age. He does a great job of controlling tempo, knowing when to run the offense, when to push in transition at high speed, and semi-transition. He does an excellent job of finding the open man in static situations as well as through dribble-penetration. A consumate triple threat guard who's weakness is perimeter shooting, which is average at best. With some better mechanics and added strength, could really excel under the triangle offense while implimenting the transition phase within the triangle.

Defensively, I expect him to just be average. His IQ and lateral quickness are very good, but the lack of wingspan and initial footspeed on man-D won't allow him to be a stopper or container at the NBA level. He continually goes behind screens and doesn't fight them, nor does he have the wingspan to makeup for any deficiencies on man-defense. When he wants to commit, the ability is there. Over 30-40 minutes a game to stop penetration and fight screens is a bit much to ask. More strength would really help in this department.
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Name: Andrew Bynum

Player comparison: Kelvin Cato athleticism/Brendan Haywood skill
Upside: More athletic Jamaal Magloire. Pre-injury Erick Dampier.

Size:
1. Height – 7'1/4" (Did look at least 2" shorter than listed 7'2" Andreas Glyniadakis)
2. Wingspan – 7'6"
3. Weight - 270
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Good lateral movement for his size. Players like Kelvin Cato are quicker, but, he's just lazy. Prone to being a tad late on weakside help rotation.
2. Initial quickness - Average quickness. Not one to blow by players one on one.
3. Top speed – Good. Willing to run the floor. Increased his transition speed compared to last year. Sometimes, he's the first man down the floor.
4. Vertical leap – Above average. Doesn't show full vert. when he wants. Full vert. was shown on a few rebounds and blocked shots. Has shown some explosion, but really needs to gather his base in order to do it. Has shown a drop-step dunk, power-up dunk on defenders. Still prone to getting dunks blocked by sub-par NBA talent.
5. Reflexes – Good. Not stellar. Not the first to the ball. Getting by on physical characteristics. Namely wingspan.
6. Strength – Below average in the sense that his legs and explosiveness aren't prevalent for such an athlete. Not Amare Stoudemire/Shaquille O'Neal explosive. A bit mechanical. Can vary by the amount of energy he has. Ankles could really use some work in terms of strength and quick-twitch muscles.
7. Conditioning – Improved. Puts in a strong 30 minutes of play. After a series of back to back games, got seriously winded and regressed to playing like Bynum of last season.
8. Footwork – Average. Utilizes the dropstep, but showed better pivot work with the spin move. Go-to shot is the spin pivot for a 2' jumpshot.
9. Balance – Average. Can get knocked off the block. Doesn't use leverage well. Doesn't fall a lot either, despite all the contact he faces.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – N/A
• Post play – Methodical post player. Willing passer who's good at decision-making. Could be more precise. Smart triangle execution as a post-playmaker. Needs more go to moves. Utlizes the pivot foot well to create shot opportunities. Aggressive backing down and going towards the basket. Good extension and elevation on a jumphook. Doesn't have any countermoves. Doesn't re-post well. Hasn't shown the ability to steal position in the paint going from strongside to weakside.
• Off-the-ball – A bit lost at times. A bit indecisive. Doesn't box-out well.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Soft touch in the paint. Should be a high percentage FG shooter. Good shots within 6' usually drop.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Needs work. Shot form better, but reluctant to use it as a reliable shot.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Average. Prone to quick moves by sub-par NBA talent. Post defense slightly improved, but hasn't really been challenged.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Very good. Shows well in pick and roll situations and is improving his timing. A bit late on rotation but contests jumpshots, even behind screens. Gets lucky to even block some of those jumpshots.
Anticipation – Solid.
• Team defense
Position - Solid. Not often late on rotation, but doesn't establish defensive position well.
Anticipation – Inconsistent. A bit slow at times. Rarely caught on no-man's land which allowed Warrick to dunk on him.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – Average. Doesn't actively box-out his man or any man consistently. Doesn't utilize footwork properly for position. Still relying too much on length for rebounding.
• Hustle – Good. Wins on the boards due to wingspan.
• Energy level – Decent.
• Position – Often finds himself boxed out or surrounded by 2 men. Steals boards on wingspan.
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Average Showing improvement game by game.
• Hustle – Average. Shows more energy for offensive boards.
• Energy level –Average.
• Position – Wins the boards on wingspan and rooting guys out of the paint. Better defensive rebounder than offensive rebounder. Slight nose for the ball.

Intangibles
• Leadership – N/A
• Attitude – Good attitude. High effort all over the floor. Learning on the fly with improvement every game.
• Work Ethic – Gained roughly 10lbs on muscle ... upper and lower body. Reflects on his ability to root out players a bit in the post, conditioning, shotblocking, rebounding, and powering up on offense.
• Competitiveness – Quiet demeanor, but never stops trying.
• Unselfishness – Good. Sometimes takes bad shots. Gets caught up in the crowd wanting him to do well in the post. Becoming more unselfish every game.
• Toughness – Good competitor. Just gets a bit winded and outmuscled in the paint at times.
• Mental – N/A
• Physical – Good frame. Could lock him up in a gym and make a granite rock out of him. If he was more chiseled, the man-defense, offensive positioning, and boxing out would all improve.

Summary: I'm not expecting a 25ppg 12rpg player unless he shows the work ethic to get himself a chiseled physique. I'm thinking more along the lines of a 14ppg 11rpg 2bpg player. Solid on both ends of the floor. Shows improvement every game. Shotblocking. Passing in the post. Decision-making within the triangle. Has a lot to learn: Dropstep, jumphook, face up game, arc in his midrange shot, FT consistency, box-out, solid man-defense, maintaining deep position when going from strongside to weakside or how to open up the passing angle, needs leg strength to steal position away from players, etc. An obvious project who is 3-4 years down the road, but definitely one worth waiting for. If he turns out to be a more athletic, better sized Magloire with the 14ppg 11rpg 2bpg relative upside, the Lakers have an absolute steal.

Edit for 7/13: Improved strength, conditioning, pivot work, power up game, rebounding, and triangle execution all up 1 level. If he wants to be a dominant player, there are 4 more levels to go in those same departments. Should definitely warrant 15 minutes of backup center time at least.

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Marcus Slaughter

1. Height – 6’7” w/o shoes, 6′8″ w/shoes
2. Wingspan – 6′11.5″
3. Weight - 220
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Solid. Shows when he rotates defensively. Always goes for the weakside block.
2. Initial quickness - Average
3. Top speed – Average. Good for a PF, but he’s 220lbs.
4. Vertical leap – Good. Demonstrated well when he’s rebounding and coming from the weakside for shotblocking opportunities.
5. Reflexes – Average
6. Strength – Average
7. Conditioning – Not enough information.
8. Footwork – Not enough information
9. Balance – Average. Can get pushed around.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – N/A
• Post play – N/A
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. Runs the triangle offense well.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Finishes effectively, though layups are a result of offensive rebounds. May not translate to NBA level.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Solid. Does hit well from midrange and is easily above 50% behind 15′. Helps space the triangle tremendously.
• Long range (19’-23′9″ or longer) – N/A

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Solid. Doesn’t get burned. Prone to getting pushed around on the block. Light post base makes him prone to post players at the PF slot. Simply cannot deny position well.
Anticipation – Average
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Solid.
Anticipation – Solid
• Team defense
Position - Solid
Anticipation – Helps out well to deny high percentage opportunities in the paint. Very active.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – Excellent. Does a good job being in the thick of things despite facing bigger players. Solid job of grabbing offensive boards.
• Energy level – Excellent
• Position – Very good
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Boxes out decently. Prone to getting pushed off the block. Grabs a good set of boards with length and good 2nd jumps. High energy play.
• Hustle – Excellent
• Energy level – Excellent
• Position – Good

Intangibles
• Leadership - N/A
• Attitude - Good
• Work Ethic - N/A
• Competitiveness - Good. Not afraid of contact in the paint. Mixes it up in the paint against bigger players.
• Unselfishness - N/A
• Toughness - Good. Not afraid of contact. Never a soft player.
• Mental - N/A
• Physical - Could really stand to gain 20lbs. of muscle.

Conclusion: 20lbs. of muscle may just buy him a backup PF position in the NBA. Slighly undersized but good wingspan to handle the position. Average athleticism. His midrange game would definitely be a saving grace to landing him on an NBA roster. He need to be a PF along the lines of Udonis Haslem, preferably with more skill and slightly more length. Would really benefit from learning guard skills overseas at European competition.
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Name: Devin Green
Player comparison: Jeryl Sasser

Size:
1. Height – 6’7”
2. Wingspan – Guestimated; 6’9”+
3. Weight - 205
4. Body Fat – N/A

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Good lateral movement. Not great, but with a combination of his length and energy, it makes him a solid defender.
2. Initial quickness - Average quickness. Not one to blow by players one on one.
3. Top speed – Average.
4. Vertical leap – Average. Haven't really seen him explode to the hoop. Doesn't finish with authority.
5. Reflexes – Quick. Quick hands. Lots of tipped passes. Pick and roll defense and reacting well to it. Loose ball? He's been there more than Turiaf.
6. Strength – Below average. Does need to bulk up.
7. Conditioning – Never looks winded despite all the high energy play and hustle.
8. Footwork – Average. Doesn't do anything fancy. Doesn't create well off the dribble unless it's in semi-transition or two put the defense at a comprimised position. Even then, it's a striaght dribble.
9. Balance – Very good. Squares up well. Never fades.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – As I said, average. Needs a screen to attack the paint, but does a great job of drawing in the defense and giving up the ball to Bynum/Turiaf for a dunk. Has improved in one year, where he drives from 15' and finishes with a layup or teardrop. May be questionable against NBA talent but is certainly more aggressive attacking the basket.
• Post play – N/A
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. A bit lost at times. Finds open spots and drifts to it, but could be more deliberate and more decisive about his timing within the triangle.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Finishes in the paint with soft shots.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) - Midrange shot needs a lot of work. Rarely hits. One season later, he hits more than half of his perimeter jumpshots, especially well from 15' to 20'. The added consistency helps in his favor, but I do think he should play internationally instead of the NBDL to refine his perimeter game.
• Long range (19’-23'9" or longer) – Needs work. He's among the most inconsistent shooters of the team.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Very solid. Kept up well with strong lateral quickness. Fights screen and roll situations. Gets burned at times but recovers well.
Anticipation – Great. Reacts well to the ball. In a sense, has a nose for it.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Solid. Didn’t get beat by backdoor cuts. Rarely late on rotations. Strong team defender considering the level of competition.
Anticipation – Solid ball-denial.
• Team defense
Position - Solid
Anticipation – Good. Simply has a knack for deflecting the basketball and forcing turnovers.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – Excellent. If there's a free lane, he'll charge the paint among the bigs.
• Energy level – Excellent. Really, he has more energy than Turiaf, makes less foul-prone mistakes, and stays on the floor longer.
• Position – Scrambles from the perimeter to dive into the paint for offensive rebounds.
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Doesn’t box out.
• Hustle – Hustles well after loose balls.
• Energy level –Average. Nose for the ball is prevalent when the ball is on the rim for him to chase.
• Position – Usually out of position for rebounding.

Intangibles
• Leadership – N/A
• Attitude – Good attitude. High effort all over the floor.
• Work Ethic – Took a summer camp to help improve his game. It shows in his energy level and intensity.
• Competitiveness – Quiet demeanor, but never stops trying.
• Unselfishness – Good. Rarely takes bad shots on the floor. Steps up bigmen well in pick and roll and pick and slip situations.
• Toughness – Strong competitor on both ends of the floor.
• Mental – N/A
• Physical – Decent frame. Could really use more strength. Barely looks bigger than Michael Cooper.

Summary: Should really play internationally instead of the NBDL. International coaches emphasize guard skills, and working on his perimeter shooting would helps his cause 2-fold. Polishing his handle would be great too, though he's not turnover prone. Passing ability is slightly above average. Can't throw the post pass well. Not always decisive passing in the triangle and sometimes out of positions, but does a great job of picking out his spots and making the proper play.

Improved midrange jumpshot. Has a problem with ball-protection ... handling the ball upcourt and when attacking the basket. Doesn't shield well with his body and does hold the ball improperly on jumpstops when attacking the rim, prone to being stripped. Added muscle should help here. Overall, will get another invite to Lakers camp, but is out-talented by the play of Pinnock who does everything equally, if not, far better than what Green provides.
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Danilo Pinnock

Upside: Josh Howard w/guard skills
Average: Trenton Hassell, the 20ppg version out of Austin Peay
Downside: Romain Sato

Athletic testing:
Vert. Max Vert. Bench Pr. Lane Agility 3/4 Sprint Rank
29.5" 36.5" 7 11.91 3.08 40

Athletic Comparisons:
Maurice Ager
29.5" 35" 8 11.73 3.22 37
Bobby Jones
28.5" 34.5" 15 11.23 3.28 27

Size:
1. Height – 6’2-3/4” w/o shoes 6’4” w/shoes
2. Wingspan – 6’7-1/2”
3. Weight - 201
4. Body Fat – N/A
5. Standing Reach - 8’4-1/2”

Athleticism:
1. Lateral movement – Very good. Does an excellent job of staying in front of his man regardless of his assignment. Rarely gets beat but uses his wingspan well to increase his horizontal length, denying passing angles, dribble-penetration angles, etc. Great footwork.
2. Initial quickness - Good NBA quickness. Utilizes footwork and crossover to beat his man. Not blinding. Not average..
3. Top speed – Very good. Likes to run out in transition. Recovers well defensively.
4. Vertical leap – Very good. Roughly 38” vert. Uses near vert. everytime he attacks the basket.
5. Reflexes – Quick. Allowed him to capture some steals and react quickly to loose balls.
6. Strength – Very skinny arms, but great leg strength/
7. Conditioning – Very good
8. Footwork – From the perimeter, very good. Hits slight fadeaways, creates space between defenders, fundamental stand-still jumpshooter, off-the-dribble, etc. Great perimeter fundamentals.
9. Balance – Very good. Didn’t get pushed on penetration.

Skill Level:
1. Offense
• Perimeter Play
• Dribble penetration – Quick off the dribble. Drove well to the basket and excelled in penetration. Utilizes a stutter step move and crossover dribble to drive by his opponent. Excellent job of controlling tempo, knowing when to push the basketball up-court and finding the open man, as well as knowing when to slow it down and go straight into the triangle offense. Excellent job within the transition phase of the triangle offense.
• Post play – Has shown the ability to hit a 14’ turnaround jumper when absolutely necessary. Not a major part of his offensive arsenal, but a last resort option jumpshot.
• Off-the-ball – Good footwork off the ball. Can play like a natural SG. Has good PG instincts to drive and dish. Makes himself available to the ball. Understands the triangle offense well.
• Short game (0’-7’) – Excellent finisher. Simple dunks. Hits his layups. Utilizes his wingspan to outreach defenders to the glass. Has hit teardrops in the paint as well. Aggressive.
• Midrange game (8’-18’) – Excellent. There are simple moves you want to teach kids and he has them down. Stand-still jumpshot, pull-up jumpshot, cross-over dribble pull-up jumpshot, spin pivot to a slight fadeaway. He has all of these moves within his arsenal and is very consistent hitting.
• Long range (19’-23'9" or longer) – Very good. Could improve 3pt. range a bit. Static shooter.

2. Defense
• Man to man defense
Position – Excellent. Kept up well with strong lateral quickness. Forced players to change direction or take a tough shot. Has some problems against very quick PGs with excellent ball-handling skill. Doesn't change directions well when opponent utilizes a spin move.
Anticipation – Excellent. Quick hands and wingspan allow him to steal the ball off the dribble or when exposed. Surprised some players in the SPL with full-court press situations, where he stole from the backcourt for transition points.
• Off-the-ball defense
Position – Excellent. Didn’t get beat by backdoor cuts. Great job of ball-denial along the perimeter. Shields his man well while never really losing sight of the defender.
Anticipation – Very good. Solid job of cutting into passing lanes.
• Team defense
Position – Very good. Rarely late on rotation. Comes in the weakside to block shots at times, surprising for a guard.
Anticipation – Good.

Rebounding
1. Offensive
• Box-out – N/A
• Hustle – Good
• Energy level – Good. Sometimes crashes the boards very well. Can explode for offensive rebound tip-dunks.
• Position – Average
2. Defensive
• Box-out – Good. In position even when his man isn't.
• Hustle – Very good
• Energy level – Good
• Position – Good position for rebounding. Seals his man well, or at least uses great defensive rebounding position when his man doesn’t attempt an offensive board.

Intangibles
• Leadership – Good. Quiet, but runs the offense well. Could stand to be more vocal with his understanding of the offense. Adapted quickly to other Laker players on the floor with execution.
• Attitude – Good. Quiet demeanor.
• Work Ethic – Excellent. Someone who grasped the triangle offense the way he did, and made the proper decisions within the offense did his homework.
• Competitiveness - Excellent
• Unselfishness – Very good. Can get shot happy when he thinks he’s on fire. Starts to give up the smart play at times.
• Toughness – Good. Could use more strength.
• Mental – Excellent. Most consistent player of the Summer Pro League, above Farmar, Green, Bynum, Wafer, etc., despite getting similar playing time.
• Physical – A tad slight of frame. Added strength could make him a borderline starter.

Conclusion. Pinnock is a very good player who exhibits excellent hoop IQ and basketball fundamentals. He’s not a tweener guard where he a SG in a PG body, but rather exhibits very good skills typical of a SG and a PG. Great job controlling tempo and is easily the best backup PG behind Farmar and ahead of Doron Perkins (who is the MVP of the Japanese league as a PG). The triangle offense does lose some energy without Farmar on the floor but Pinnock provides strong shot-creating ability along the perimeter to make it up. Great 2-way player, definite steal in the 2nd round, which has me thinking he should’ve been in the 1st round. Must have slipped down in the draft because he doesn’t have standout athleticism like James White, or excellent size by position like Mardy Collins. Roughly the same size as Smush Parker, a bit stronger, far more skilled, better hoop IQ. More PG skills than Parker displayed last season. May have trouble with elite level athletes but excellent footwork, strong lateral movement, excellent wingspan and fundamentals make him an average to above average defender at the NBA level.

If he came out last season this polished, I do believe he’d have the PG spot over Parker. Highly underrated playmaker.
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[magic_bryant]

I love the Pinnock selection. I thought he'd be a steal on draft night. Looks more and more likely that he was.
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[Polish_Bastard]

Minor correction: a player like Slaughter would never play in Europe on the perimeter. If he goes there and dedicates himself he might end up like Haslem. If he doesn't show similar work ethic he could be sth of a Marcus Goree.
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[Mike@LG]

^Every player, regardless of size, learns guard skills.

That's how Brad Miller got so damn good at shooting and passing.

Even Haslem went overseas and found a midrange jumpshot.

Same goes for PJ Brown.
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[LakerJam]

I gotta say, that really is an excellent post, Mike. Well thought out, thorough. You could tell you focused really well with each player.

Very enjoyable to read - and accurate.

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[angel]

At #26, Farmar is looking like a player who can quickly develop into a starter. He would rate a late round steal.
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